US journalist beheaded by ISIS...
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La Liga said:
I'm not so sure Jordan can hold the moral high-ground when executing people in retaliation.
Moral high ground ? We are not dealing with a conventional war here, Isis are not following the Geneva convention you know, the only thing they understand is force and violence, perhaps you would like to go out there and tell them they are naughty boys and need to stop it.Baryonyx said:
sjn2004 said:
..and just think, Camermoron wanted to send arms to these idiots.
Yes, Cameron doesn't seem to mention the time when he was in favour of sending weaponry to these idiots, but he sure complains about them now...La Liga said:
I'm not so sure Jordan can hold the moral high-ground when executing people in retaliation.
She wanted to murder as many as possible . Did you see the carnage her husband did?Tell his victims about high ground . There is no high or low ground with these people. There is no negotiating, no winning them around with hearts and minds.
We can't apply western values to these people. Jordan did what was necessary. Anything else is always seen as weakness and proof alah is in their side.
At least Jordan has done balls. Another 4 to go.
PRTVR said:
La Liga said:
I'm not so sure Jordan can hold the moral high-ground when executing people in retaliation.
Moral high ground ? We are not dealing with a conventional war here, Isis are not following the Geneva convention you know, the only thing they understand is force and violence, perhaps you would like to go out there and tell them they are naughty boys and need to stop it.
Adopt our own version of Sharia Law, public execution of suspected terrorists without trial & whilst we're at it, change the country's name to Englandistan.
king about being repeated again and again and again ain't fLa Liga said:
uite possibly. They can spin the event whichever way they want.
Rarely are good decisions made in anger.
In a general sense, it's also easy to want to compromise the values and behaviours that set is apart from the barbaric acts.
The motive certainly wasn't to calm things and search for a resolution.Rarely are good decisions made in anger.
In a general sense, it's also easy to want to compromise the values and behaviours that set is apart from the barbaric acts.
zygalski said:
PRTVR said:
La Liga said:
I'm not so sure Jordan can hold the moral high-ground when executing people in retaliation.
Moral high ground ? We are not dealing with a conventional war here, Isis are not following the Geneva convention you know, the only thing they understand is force and violence, perhaps you would like to go out there and tell them they are naughty boys and need to stop it.Adopt our own version of Sharia Law, public execution of suspected terrorists without trial & whilst we're at it, change the country's name to Englandistan.
anonymous said:
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The Jordanian was rumoured to have been killed as long ago as Jan 3rd, their choice of prisoner to swap was a joke. No way they'd swap a downed fighter pilot for 1 female failed suicide bomber. The whole thing has been orchestrated to keep things in the news and to drag Jordan into the fight.
I was reading yesterday that most of ISIS top command have been recruited from high ranking ex members of the old Iraqi army hence the sudden surge in ground taken using good military strategy. This is slowly failing ad these known leaders are targeted and eliminated.
Makes you wonder what they are really up to?
Derek Smith said:
La Liga said:
uite possibly. They can spin the event whichever way they want.
Rarely are good decisions made in anger.
In a general sense, it's also easy to want to compromise the values and behaviours that set is apart from the barbaric acts.
The motive certainly wasn't to calm things and search for a resolution.Rarely are good decisions made in anger.
In a general sense, it's also easy to want to compromise the values and behaviours that set is apart from the barbaric acts.
Tony Starks said:
How would the world act/responded if Assad started using chemical weapons again?
I miss-read that - I had visions of the British underclasses being extinguished in supermarket isles.Anyway, back to the plot. Win-win for Uncle Sam right now. Just when brash Russian wealth was threatening to eclipse the American Dream (TM), and their political influence was beginning to make things awkward for US foreign policy, along comes;
- Oil price crash
- Call to arms for Team America World Police
I'm not certain the west should follow suit, but at the same time, I do feel that fighting guerilla whilst shackled to outmoded 'conventions' has failed with increasing regularity and severity throughout the latter part of the 20th century and the early part of the current century.
2013BRM said:
I am utterly gobsmacked that this has been forgotten.
Let's be fair, the situation has changed since that vote. Originally, Assad was cracking down on the civil uprising which was Syria's Arab spring. Assad wasn't too popular in the west so we tended towards support for the uprising ie freedom and democracy.But the support in Syria for the FSA gradually woke up a list as long as your arm of Islamic nut jobs, Al Q, the Mujahedeen, bla bla bla, and now ISIS.
Easy to say we should have seen that coming, and the result of the vote was right in the end, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
HoHoHo said:
Now the coalition needs to respond from the air.
I think there needs to be 'shock and awe' which will unfortunately involve innocent civilians but I see no other way to try and manage this ongoing crisis.
I suppose that's OK providing it's only foreign innocent civilians that get killed or maimed and not European or American innocent civilians...I think there needs to be 'shock and awe' which will unfortunately involve innocent civilians but I see no other way to try and manage this ongoing crisis.
La Liga said:
I'm not so sure Jordan can hold the moral high-ground when executing people in retaliation.
What do you suggest then. Just annoy them a bit 'Big Brother House' style by not letting them have hot water in the shower for 12 hours..?Wake up. The gloves are OFF matey.
Jordan has shown some mettle. Other nations are going to have to do the same before this cancer spreads too far.
Lost soul said:
We should (if we are not already) arm the Kurds to the teeth and bugger what the Turks feel about it
Haven't we tried that already, "Afghanistan" (total success) You know the Kurds want their own country right, and aren't going to give back the weapons afterwards and won't only shoot at the people we want them to...Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff