US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

[Countdown]

BlackLabel said:

The Israelis seem to be doing something right.

Isis-affiliated fighters “apologised” after launching an attack on Israeli soldiers, the country’s former defence minister has claimed. Moshe Ya’alon was reportedly referring to an incident when a group linked to Isis in the Syrian Golan Heights exchanged fire with Israeli forces last November.

article said:

According to the first Western journalists, who have entered Isis' territories and survived, Israel is the only country in the world the Islamic group fears because it believes its army is too strong to face.

I'd hazard a guess that they "apologised" because to all intents and purposes, they're on the same side. ISIS loathe Shias and Hezbollah in Lebanon are one of Israel's threats.

[TheJimi]

Hmm

The Israelis have a reputation for not fking about and getting the job done - chances are it's that more than anything else.

The Hezbollah / Shia thing is probably just the icing on the cake.

[Countdown]

TheJimi said:

Hmm

The Israelis have a reputation for not fking about and getting the job done - chances are it's that more than anything else.
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Somebody should tell Hamas and Hezbollah.

[BlackLabel]

The last two British Islamic State fanatics in Jihadi John beheading gang captured.

“British Isis fighters known as 'the Beatles' captured in Syria
Alexanda Kotey and El Shafee Elsheikh, the two remaining members, stand accused of murdering two dozen hostages in Syria”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/08/brit...

[King Herald]

Some peacenik liberal in the UK will fight for their extradition back to the U.K., and they will get new identities and free housing...

[Eric Mc]

Or, a defence barrister law will act for them in court as is required by British law.

Or don't you like living in a country where we have such laws?

[dudleybloke]

Eric Mc said:

Or, a defence barrister law will act for them in court as is required by British law.

Or don't you like living in a country where we have such laws?

They should be punished under the laws of the land where the crimes were committed not here.
Same as everybody else.

[Eric Mc]

dudleybloke said:

Eric Mc said:

Or, a defence barrister law will act for them in court as is required by British law.

Or don't you like living in a country where we have such laws?

They should be punished under the laws of the land where the crimes were committed not here.
Same as everybody else.

If they have been arrested in a foreign land for committing a crime in that foreign land, then fine.

If they were arrested here, then they will be tried here unless the foreign country seeks extradition. They then MAY be sent abroad to face trial there. All quite straightforward really.

[anonymous-user]

King Herald said:

Some peacenik liberal in the UK will fight for their extradition back to the U.K., and they will get new identities and free housing...

You’re just upset you won’t get to see any more of their beheading videos.

[King Herald]

Eric Mc said:

dudleybloke said:

Eric Mc said:

Or, a defence barrister law will act for them in court as is required by British law.

Or don't you like living in a country where we have such laws?

They should be punished under the laws of the land where the crimes were committed not here.
Same as everybody else.

If they have been arrested in a foreign land for committing a crime in that foreign land, then fine.

If they were arrested here, then they will be tried here unless the foreign country seeks extradition. They then MAY be sent abroad to face trial there. All quite straightforward really.

I don’t think they deserve to be tried under the protection of a society they were determined to destroy, despite them having been taken in and adopted as its citizens in their youth. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

They would probably get 25 years and be out in 15, and spend their free time stirring rebellion and more terrorism, were they tried and jailed in the U.K.

[King Herald]

El stovey said:

You’re just upset you won’t get to see any more of their beheading videos.

If they are tried in the U.K. I sure hope they force the jury to watch several of those horrific murder videos to demonstrate that this pair are not simply ‘popular and promising footballers, led astray by religion and youth’

[durbster]

King Herald said:

El stovey said:

You’re just upset you won’t get to see any more of their beheading videos.

If they are tried in the U.K. I sure hope they force the jury to watch several of those horrific murder videos to demonstrate that this pair are not simply ‘popular and promising footballers, led astray by religion and youth’

Thankfully the British legal system is more sophisticated than that, and doesn't treat people as either goodies or baddies.

[Zod]

Eric Mc said:

Or, a defence barrister law will act for them in court as is required by British law.

Or don't you like living in a country where we have such laws?

He wants to watch a video of their being tortured and killed on his private snuff film club site.

[King Herald]

Zod said:

Eric Mc said:

Or, a defence barrister law will act for them in court as is required by British law.

Or don't you like living in a country where we have such laws?

He wants to watch a video of their being tortured and killed on his private snuff film club site.

I’ve see the way the oh so venerable British legal system has treated the pair who tortured and murdered James Bulger. Why should we expect them to do anything particularly differently for these two terrorists?

A little live execution action might be just the ticket.

[Blackpuddin]

Some speculation on R4 just now that they may have been stripped of their British nationality.

[durbster]

Blackpuddin said:

Some speculation on R4 just now that they may have been stripped of their British nationality.

Yeah, that seems an excellent idea that would prevent people going in the first place and stop them coming back. I'm surprised it hasn't been done really.

[mattyn1]

Normally I would be all for brutal execution but that in my mind would be heavily and negatively politicised. Martyrdom springs to mind.
I like the stripping of nationality though.
I was once all for the death penalty and getting it done swiftly on the premise the fuss would die down soon after an execution. However as I have grown older, I fall on the side of finding out why these people do this (more about the Jamie Bulger killers and not instead of punishment).
Might seem fluffy to some but as long as we couple it along side severe punishment, we might find out something that can prevent similar happening again.

[Digga]

Eric Mc said:

Or, a defence barrister law will act for them in court as is required by British law.

Or don't you like living in a country where we have such laws?

Sometimes, the magnitude of the crimes individuals commit makes a mockery of the system. In the vast majority of cases, I agree with your sentiment, but in cases like these, frankly, the more quietly they are simply disappeared, the better for all.

A drawn out legal review of their deeds would only serve to give them more publicity and, inevitably, cause more grief and suffering to those whose friends and relatives were affected. Hopefully, both the US and UK will let the local forces do something swift, brutal and expedient.

[anonymous-user]

durbster said:

Blackpuddin said:

Some speculation on R4 just now that they may have been stripped of their British nationality.

Yeah, that seems an excellent idea that would prevent people going in the first place and stop them coming back. I'm surprised it hasn't been done really.

I didn’t know you could strip people of their nationality?

It’s not like Islamic state ever really became a state so where are they going to go If/when they get out of prison?

So good to see all these murdering nutters finally getting identified and caught.

[King Herald]

El stovey said:

I didn’t know you could strip people of their nationality?
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I thought I saw on the Beeb that they were both immigrants originally?

Maybe revert them back to their old nationality, if that can be done.

But then they would simply cry that they are in fear of their lives back in their mother country st holes and they’d be given sanctuary in Bradford.