US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

[otolith]

dudleybloke said:

They should be punished under the laws of the land where the crimes were committed not here.
Same as everybody else.

So you are against prosecuting paedophile sex tourists under UK law if what they do is legal where they do it?

[Zod]

El stovey said:

durbster said:

Blackpuddin said:

Some speculation on R4 just now that they may have been stripped of their British nationality.

Yeah, that seems an excellent idea that would prevent people going in the first place and stop them coming back. I'm surprised it hasn't been done really.

I didn’t know you could strip people of their nationality?

It’s not like Islamic state ever really became a state so where are they going to go If/when they get out of prison?

So good to see all these murdering nutters finally getting identified and caught.

You can't; it's illegal under international law, unless they have another nationality.

[dudleybloke]

otolith said:

dudleybloke said:

They should be punished under the laws of the land where the crimes were committed not here.
Same as everybody else.

So you are against prosecuting paedophile sex tourists under UK law if what they do is legal where they do it?

It is illegal everywhere.
Nice strawman attempt.

[PRTVR]

Zod said:

El stovey said:

durbster said:

Blackpuddin said:

Some speculation on R4 just now that they may have been stripped of their British nationality.

Yeah, that seems an excellent idea that would prevent people going in the first place and stop them coming back. I'm surprised it hasn't been done really.

I didn’t know you could strip people of their nationality?

It’s not like Islamic state ever really became a state so where are they going to go If/when they get out of prison?

So good to see all these murdering nutters finally getting identified and caught.

You can't; it's illegal under international law, unless they have another nationality.

So we have to pay Somalia to get them a passport, I think it would be cheaper in the long run.

[otolith]

dudleybloke said:

otolith said:

dudleybloke said:

They should be punished under the laws of the land where the crimes were committed not here.
Same as everybody else.

So you are against prosecuting paedophile sex tourists under UK law if what they do is legal where they do it?

It is illegal everywhere.
Nice strawman attempt.

No, it's not. The age of consent is not the same everywhere.

[anonymous-user]

PRTVR said:

Zod said:

El stovey said:

durbster said:

Blackpuddin said:

Some speculation on R4 just now that they may have been stripped of their British nationality.

Yeah, that seems an excellent idea that would prevent people going in the first place and stop them coming back. I'm surprised it hasn't been done really.

I didn’t know you could strip people of their nationality?

It’s not like Islamic state ever really became a state so where are they going to go If/when they get out of prison?

So good to see all these murdering nutters finally getting identified and caught.

You can't; it's illegal under international law, unless they have another nationality.

So we have to pay Somalia to get them a passport, I think it would be cheaper in the long run.

As Zod says, I think if they’re dual nationality, one nation can disown them but otherwise ‘you’re’ stuck with your own nationals.

Obviously if they get banged up in another country it then depends on what agreements are in place as to who deals with them or what happens.

[King Herald]

otolith said:

dudleybloke said:

otolith said:

dudleybloke said:

They should be punished under the laws of the land where the crimes were committed not here.
Same as everybody else.

So you are against prosecuting paedophile sex tourists under UK law if what they do is legal where they do it?

It is illegal everywhere.
Nice strawman attempt.

No, it's not. The age of consent is not the same everywhere.

16 in the U.K., and Americans think we are a bunch of pedoes for allowing that.

12 in the Philippines, and British think they are a bunch of pedoes for allowing that.

11 in Nigeria, and everybody thinks....blah blah...

[anonymous-user]

otolith said:

So you are against prosecuting paedophile sex tourists under UK law if what they do is legal where they do it?

If I pop over to Germany to max out my car I should expect to be done for speeding by Dover police on my return then?
Nice use of poor little kids,could have used any single law as an example but no, had to be children, how's the weather in Islington?

[Moonhawk]

NorfolkInClue1 said:

If I pop over to Germany to max out my car I should expect to be done for speeding by Dover police on my return then?
Nice use of poor little kids,could have used any single law as an example but no, had to be children, how's the weather in Islington?

The sex tourist law was used because it is one of the few examples of British law that trancend our borders.

In most cases if you do something in a country that is legal in that country - but illegal here (posession of drugs for example, or driving at 100mph on a public road) - you would not be prosecuted upon your return to the uk.

[dudleybloke]

I understand that the law allows nonces to be tried in this country if the laws are lax where they committed the crime. But the law was specially amended for that specific purpose.
The difference here is they are accused of crimes that ARE illegal in the countries that they committed them so should be tried under the laws of that land and if found guilty, punished there.

[otolith]

NorfolkInClue1 said:

otolith said:

So you are against prosecuting paedophile sex tourists under UK law if what they do is legal where they do it?

If I pop over to Germany to max out my car I should expect to be done for speeding by Dover police on my return then?
Nice use of poor little kids,could have used any single law as an example but no, had to be children, how's the weather in Islington?

There are few situations in which you will be prosecuted in a British court for something which is not a crime in the jurisdiction in which it happened. This is one of them. If you know others, fire away.

[otolith]

dudleybloke said:

I understand that the law allows nonces to be tried in this country if the laws are lax where they committed the crime. But the law was specially amended for that specific purpose.
The difference here is they are accused of crimes that ARE illegal in the countries that they committed them so should be tried under the laws of that land and if found guilty, punished there.

Their crimes occurred in the absence of a functioning state, under a regime which approved of them.

[numtumfutunch]

They must realise every intelligence agency on the planet is looking for them yet they allow themselves to be taken alive

What's the sentence for stupidity?

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[ABZ RS6]

Tough sheeeeeeeet!

[TheJimi]

Look at them. Pathetic runts.

Not so hard now, are they? Without their balaclavas and their prisoners trussed up like chickens.

[Pesty]

That they are still breathing is a mistake. A fair trial followed by a fair hanging.

[Burwood]

Amazed at how pathetic they are. ‘I might just disappear and my Mum will not know where I am’. Like the Mums of the many victims he personally murdered in very ugly ways. We will always treat this lot far better than they deserve.

[Murph7355]

Qwert1e said:

Guam said:

We need to ascertain who or what is churning out these monsters.

How about,

• Imaginary weapons of mass destruction in Iraq
• Imaginary connections between Saddam Hussein and Al Quaeda
• The fragmentation of a major Middle eastern country, Iraq, by war and destruction with no viable end game
• Extraordinary rendition
• Institutionalised torture
• Guantanamo Bay

Just a thought.

To a point I agree. The West has a very, very poor track record in the Middle East and with extreme religions. Foreign policy needs to change.

However these are people born and raised here. Even if outraged by those things, they should being taught the Western way of dealing with them...which generally doesn't involve hacking off an aid worker's head with a knife.

My experience of state primary schools etc is relatively limited, but I'm pretty sure they're not being taught that st there.

I'd put more money on it being parental issues, guardianship issues in their religious enclave and the internet (to a point).

[Dromedary66]

I would love it if the USA gave them citizenship, brought them over, quick trial -> death row.