US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

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RDMcG

19,096 posts

206 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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The message also contains a threat to a further hostage, a British journalist. Appalling.

rich1231

17,331 posts

259 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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The utter fking s

ED209

5,740 posts

243 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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reports that 20 black hawk choppers heading from Turkey into Isis territory. Has Obama decided to act?

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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I believe the French, Italians and possibly even the Spanish have paid ISIS tens of millions of $s to get some of their journalists released. I can completely understand why most nations do not pay hostage ransoms because all it does is encourage more hostage taking however if it were a friend or family member of mine kidnapped by ISIS I'd rather they were French/Italian/Spanish than British or American.

fk knows how we get out of this situation - many ISIS fighters mix amongst the civilian population so you can't just bomb the st out of them and no one wants to see British and American troops on the ground in that region again. So what is left?

It's utterly surreal - we used to be worried about foreign groups sending Jihadis to Britain but now we are the ones sending them overseas.

VinceFox

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20,566 posts

171 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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ED209 said:
reports that 20 black hawk choppers heading from Turkey into Isis territory. Has Obama decided to act?
Source?

audidoody

8,595 posts

255 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Act against what? Who? Where?

You can't send SF anywhere until your intelligence is 100pc accurate and up-to-the-minute.

Otherwise it's another Ridley Scott movie in two years. And not in a good way.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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anonymous said:
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Then the "outraged of Luton" will need to be dealt with if and when that occurs.

Joey Ramone

2,150 posts

124 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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audidoody said:
Act against what? Who? Where?

You can't send SF anywhere until your intelligence is 100pc accurate and up-to-the-minute.

Otherwise it's another Ridley Scott movie in two years. And not in a good way.
Intelligence is almost never 100% accurate and up to the minute. In fact that's half the reason SF exist, in order to aid the accomplishment of that objective.

marked1

271 posts

136 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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What's happened to the couple who were kidnapped in Afghanistan a couple of years ago?. The women was 7 months pregnant and decides to backpack in Afghanistan. I hope they are safe.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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marked1 said:
What's happened to the couple who were kidnapped in Afghanistan a couple of years ago?. The women was 7 months pregnant and decides to backpack in Afghanistan. I hope they are safe.
They are still being held captive by the Taliban.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2648727/De...

vescaegg

25,489 posts

166 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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They cut to a supposedly british guy who they have said is next rage

I cant imagine what he is going through and hope to god someone on our side gets to him first.

Does anyone recall David Haines and how he came to be captured by these animals?

gaz1234

5,233 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Video is online

lord trumpton

7,321 posts

125 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Such a barbaric, despicable act.

One thing that does run through my mind is this...

If i were the unfortunate captive and I got dressed in the orange suit and put in front of the camera etc I do wonder how I would manage to stay composed like the poor fellows in the video.

I'm not sure if I could 'go quietly' I would probably go berserk and try everything I could to do exactly what they didn't want. I'm not talking tough here, just wondering how these poor men facing a certain death manage to just stay composed.

Whatever though, may their souls rest in peace.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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lord trumpton said:
Such a barbaric, despicable act.

One thing that does run through my mind is this...

If i were the unfortunate captive and I got dressed in the orange suit and put in front of the camera etc I do wonder how I would manage to stay composed like the poor fellows in the video.

I'm not sure if I could 'go quietly' I would probably go berserk and try everything I could to do exactly what they didn't want. I'm not talking tough here, just wondering how these poor men facing a certain death manage to just stay composed.

Whatever though, may their souls rest in peace.
I'm with you; I think I'd have a mouthful of IS nuts before they whacked me.

vescaegg

25,489 posts

166 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
lord trumpton said:
Such a barbaric, despicable act.

One thing that does run through my mind is this...

If i were the unfortunate captive and I got dressed in the orange suit and put in front of the camera etc I do wonder how I would manage to stay composed like the poor fellows in the video.

I'm not sure if I could 'go quietly' I would probably go berserk and try everything I could to do exactly what they didn't want. I'm not talking tough here, just wondering how these poor men facing a certain death manage to just stay composed.

Whatever though, may their souls rest in peace.
I'm with you; I think I'd have a mouthful of IS nuts before they whacked me.
How many times was he made to do this previously, done what they said, and been 'let go' and it never actually happened? Terrifyingly this could have been the hundredth time and he may have just thought 'Do what they want and it will buy me a few days'....

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
I'm with you; I think I'd have a mouthful of IS nuts before they whacked me.
I should imagine they are probably subjected to frequent mock executions, and probably hope that if they play ball this will just be another....

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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vescaegg said:
Jimbeaux said:
lord trumpton said:
Such a barbaric, despicable act.

One thing that does run through my mind is this...

If i were the unfortunate captive and I got dressed in the orange suit and put in front of the camera etc I do wonder how I would manage to stay composed like the poor fellows in the video.

I'm not sure if I could 'go quietly' I would probably go berserk and try everything I could to do exactly what they didn't want. I'm not talking tough here, just wondering how these poor men facing a certain death manage to just stay composed.

Whatever though, may their souls rest in peace.
I'm with you; I think I'd have a mouthful of IS nuts before they whacked me.
How many times was he made to do this previously, done what they said, and been 'let go' and it never actually happened? Terrifyingly this could have been the hundredth time and he may have just thought 'Do what they want and it will buy me a few days'....
Good point; very possible. If so, the agony and anxiety is off the charts.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

230 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Boxing Champ Anthony Small defends beheading. tt.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/steven-sotlof...

rich1231

17,331 posts

259 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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There was talk a while ago that they were also sedated which would explain their calmness.

Or part of coping with what was about to happen would be not to show fear to the utter s that did it.

I have watched the video, I never want to see its like again. If there is a god then he is not with ISIS.

This is simply the tip of the iceberg though, we are revolted by a single act but these maniacs have been killing thousands over the last few months.


onyx39

11,109 posts

149 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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I guess we are backed into a corner now, how can America NOT act?