US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

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vescaegg

25,549 posts

167 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
Boxing Champ Anthony Small defends beheading. tt.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/steven-sotlof...
WTF?

Surely with talk of sleeper cells in the UK etc he is going to be VERY shortly visited by plod?


gaz1234

5,233 posts

219 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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I don't think they will.
As much as it's bad, it will become normal And they will need to come up with something else

2013BRM

39,731 posts

284 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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rich1231 said:
There was talk a while ago that they were also sedated which would explain their calmness.

Or part of coping with what was about to happen would be not to show fear to the utter s that did it.

I have watched the video, I never want to see its like again. If there is a god then he is not with ISIS.

This is simply the tip of the iceberg though, we are revolted by a single act but these maniacs have been killing thousands over the last few months.
don't know how anyone could watch that barbarity, I'd have the jitters for weeks

Campo

10,839 posts

197 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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rich1231 said:
I have watched the video, I never want to see its like again. If there is a god then he is not with ISIS.
Why would you watch the video, I just don't understand why you would. You know what is going to happen, the guy is going to be murdered. In my book that makes you almost as sick as those carrying out the murder.

rich1231

17,331 posts

260 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Campo said:
Why would you watch the video, I just don't understand why you would. You know what is going to happen, the guy is going to be murdered. In my book that makes you almost as sick as those carrying out the murder.
Really, wow that is quite some claim.

I imagine many hundreds of thousands have seen the video as if you google the guys name, and click on videos I would guess you would have no fking idea which ones showed the murder and which stopped after the murderer spouting bks.

vescaegg

25,549 posts

167 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Campo said:
rich1231 said:
I have watched the video, I never want to see its like again. If there is a god then he is not with ISIS.
Why would you watch the video, I just don't understand why you would. You know what is going to happen, the guy is going to be murdered. In my book that makes you almost as sick as those carrying out the murder.
You are an idiot.

Some people dont want to hide themselves from the things that go on in the world; these things are happening every day. The world is a fked up place and many people prefer not to be ignorant to the horrors that people are suffering. The majority of people wont watch and will forget about it tomorrow. Those that do certainly wont.

For the record, I have not watched it but have previously seen similar. Once was enough for me to have it burned into my retinas.

folos

900 posts

142 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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lord trumpton said:
Such a barbaric, despicable act.

One thing that does run through my mind is this...

If i were the unfortunate captive and I got dressed in the orange suit and put in front of the camera etc I do wonder how I would manage to stay composed like the poor fellows in the video.

I'm not sure if I could 'go quietly' I would probably go berserk and try everything I could to do exactly what they didn't want. I'm not talking tough here, just wondering how these poor men facing a certain death manage to just stay composed.

Whatever though, may their souls rest in peace.
I'd imagine if they struggled they'd meet a much worse or violent fate. Or they were drugged for the second scene where they are murdered, and if they didn't co-operate then they wouldn't get the drugs.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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anonymous said:
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Chau Chau needs to meet his demise in such a way that shows him doing something he preaches against, thus giving his followers something to think on.

AlexC1981

4,926 posts

217 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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I accidentally came across a gruesome photo while scrolling through google images. I stared at the image and took it in. Somehow I felt I had to face up to the image and not just ignore it. It felt wrong to look the other way in the face of atrocity.

A strange feeling.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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onyx39 said:
I guess we are backed into a corner now, how can America NOT act?
Some would argue that is exactly what the Islamic State wants. It's pretty clear that part of their goal is to bait Obama and draw the West in to a greater degree than we are now.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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If by chance I got my hands on one of these dogs, I believe I would fail to muster any magnanimity; just saying.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

231 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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BlackLabel said:
onyx39 said:
I guess we are backed into a corner now, how can America NOT act?
Some would argue that is exactly what the Islamic State wants. It's pretty clear that part of their goal is to bait Obama and draw the West in to a greater degree than we are now.
And if we don't? Do you think they still will not come to the UK/US to do dark deeds?

wc98

10,401 posts

140 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Jimbeaux said:
lord trumpton said:
Such a barbaric, despicable act.

One thing that does run through my mind is this...

If i were the unfortunate captive and I got dressed in the orange suit and put in front of the camera etc I do wonder how I would manage to stay composed like the poor fellows in the video.

I'm not sure if I could 'go quietly' I would probably go berserk and try everything I could to do exactly what they didn't want. I'm not talking tough here, just wondering how these poor men facing a certain death manage to just stay composed.

Whatever though, may their souls rest in peace.
I'm with you; I think I'd have a mouthful of IS nuts before they whacked me.
i hope the reason is they are drugged before execution . i cannot imagine the emotions in that situation .

Dan_1981

17,396 posts

199 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Ken Bigley, way back in what 2004?

Probably one of the first videoed executions.

Still remember it vividly. Will never ever attempt to watch another.

lord trumpton

7,404 posts

126 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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folos said:
lord trumpton said:
Such a barbaric, despicable act.

One thing that does run through my mind is this...

If i were the unfortunate captive and I got dressed in the orange suit and put in front of the camera etc I do wonder how I would manage to stay composed like the poor fellows in the video.

I'm not sure if I could 'go quietly' I would probably go berserk and try everything I could to do exactly what they didn't want. I'm not talking tough here, just wondering how these poor men facing a certain death manage to just stay composed.

Whatever though, may their souls rest in peace.
I'd imagine if they struggled they'd meet a much worse or violent fate. Or they were drugged for the second scene where they are murdered, and if they didn't co-operate then they wouldn't get the drugs.
Second scene? Is it not a continuous film then?

folos

900 posts

142 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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lord trumpton said:
Second scene? Is it not a continuous film then?
No, that scumbag from London gives his speech to Obama then it cuts to the execution scene. Same as the first video, it cuts out to a third scene just after he begins.

vescaegg

25,549 posts

167 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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lord trumpton said:
folos said:
lord trumpton said:
Such a barbaric, despicable act.

One thing that does run through my mind is this...

If i were the unfortunate captive and I got dressed in the orange suit and put in front of the camera etc I do wonder how I would manage to stay composed like the poor fellows in the video.

I'm not sure if I could 'go quietly' I would probably go berserk and try everything I could to do exactly what they didn't want. I'm not talking tough here, just wondering how these poor men facing a certain death manage to just stay composed.

Whatever though, may their souls rest in peace.
I'd imagine if they struggled they'd meet a much worse or violent fate. Or they were drugged for the second scene where they are murdered, and if they didn't co-operate then they wouldn't get the drugs.
Second scene? Is it not a continuous film then?
Some are claiming the videos of the actual beheadings are not real and that they were probably done off screen some time later. The videos fade to black and dont actually show the deeds which is odd for someone purposefully trying to cause distress.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/bill-gardne...

RemyMartin

6,759 posts

205 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Dan_1981 said:
Ken Bigley, way back in what 2004?

Probably one of the first videoed executions.

Still remember it vividly. Will never ever attempt to watch another.
Exactly this. Burnt into my head forever :-(

These sick animals need putting down. Not deradicalisation. There is no reasoning with savages.

photosnob

1,339 posts

118 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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lord trumpton said:
folos said:
lord trumpton said:
Such a barbaric, despicable act.

One thing that does run through my mind is this...

If i were the unfortunate captive and I got dressed in the orange suit and put in front of the camera etc I do wonder how I would manage to stay composed like the poor fellows in the video.

I'm not sure if I could 'go quietly' I would probably go berserk and try everything I could to do exactly what they didn't want. I'm not talking tough here, just wondering how these poor men facing a certain death manage to just stay composed.

Whatever though, may their souls rest in peace.
I'd imagine if they struggled they'd meet a much worse or violent fate. Or they were drugged for the second scene where they are murdered, and if they didn't co-operate then they wouldn't get the drugs.
Second scene? Is it not a continuous film then?
They have been in captivity for years. They have almost certainly undergone numerous mock executions. From reports they are kept in the most awful conditions. The human mind has an amazing ability to want to survive but there does come a point in caves in.

I'm also not overly convinced you are seeing the execution on video. At no point is there blood. The poor blokes probably do not think they are being executed but are going through yet another mock set up.

I personally believe after viewing both of the video's that they are executed off camera and this is the final image shown.

They are using the Brit because it's more shocking and opens up their audience to the west in a very real way.

vescaegg

25,549 posts

167 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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RemyMartin said:
Dan_1981 said:
Ken Bigley, way back in what 2004?

Probably one of the first videoed executions.

Still remember it vividly. Will never ever attempt to watch another.
Exactly this. Burnt into my head forever :-(

These sick animals need putting down. Not deradicalisation. There is no reasoning with savages.
That was the one which took my innocence which is a strange but accurate way of putting it. I was young and 'internet naive'

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