US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

US journalist beheaded by ISIS...

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rollondeath

317 posts

120 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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groucho said:
So many apologists! When are we going to wake up? No mosques in this country. We are at war, or will be soon. No room for any religion, yep, I'm racist, I don't like Muslims.
This is world war three and it started a long time ago.

Steve126

301 posts

184 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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groucho said:
So many apologists! When are we going to wake up? No mosques in this country. We are at war, or will be soon. No room for any religion, yep, I'm racist, I don't like Muslims.
Islam is not a race therefore disliking Muslims doesn't make you a racist. It has always bothered me the way we can say whatever we like about Christianity/Christians and nobody cares, but if you criticise Muslims they try to silence you by calling you a racist.

Whatever the religion, we are talking about a bunch of nutters and their imaginary friend and we should be able to laugh at them, criticise them, or dislike them. If they don't like it they can grow up and stop believing in fairytales.

rollondeath

317 posts

120 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Steve126 said:
groucho said:
So many apologists! When are we going to wake up? No mosques in this country. We are at war, or will be soon. No room for any religion, yep, I'm racist, I don't like Muslims.
Islam is not a race therefore disliking Muslims doesn't make you a racist. It has always bothered me the way we can say whatever we like about Christianity/Christians and nobody cares, but if you criticise Muslims they try to silence you by calling you a racist.

Whatever the religion, we are talking about a bunch of nutters and their imaginary friend and we should be able to laugh at them, criticise them, or dislike them. If they don't like it they can grow up and stop believing in fairytales.
Or behead you!

myvision

1,948 posts

137 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Steve126 said:
Islam is not a race therefore disliking Muslims doesn't make you a racist. It has always bothered me the way we can say whatever we like about Christianity/Christians and nobody cares, but if you criticise Muslims they try to silence you by calling you a racist.

Whatever the religion, we are talking about a bunch of nutters and their imaginary friend and we should be able to laugh at them, criticise them, or dislike them. If they don't like it they can grow up and stop believing in fairytales.
This!

zuby84

995 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Steve126 said:
Islam is not a race therefore disliking Muslims doesn't make you a racist.
With all due respect, that's quite a pedantic argument that uses a "technicality" in trying to justify negative-feelings/discrimination towards Muslims. You're right, but every man and his dog knows what the underlying meaning of a "racist" is.

What would you call an attack on a Muslim/Mosque by a white supremacist if not "racist"? Genuine debate.


Edited by zuby84 on Sunday 14th September 20:34

zuby84

995 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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groucho said:
zuby84 said:
Would you take on a large roofing job given to you by a Muslim?

In any case; I believe you belong on this forum https://www.stormfront.org/forum/f39/ and not Pistonheads.
No
Do you openly advertise that? If not, why not?
Surely you need to obey the laws of this land and if not - perhaps you should move somewhere else more compatible with your views? wink

greygoose

8,270 posts

196 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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zuby84 said:
Steve126 said:
Islam is not a race therefore disliking Muslims doesn't make you a racist.
With all due respect, that's quite a pedantic argument that uses a "technicality" in trying to justify negative-feelings/discrimination towards Muslims. You're right, but every man and his dog knows what the underlying meaning of a "racist" is.

What would you call an attack on a Muslim/Mosque by a white supremacist if not "racist"? Genuine debate.


Edited by zuby84 on Sunday 14th September 20:34
It is a hate crime.

photosnob

1,339 posts

119 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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zuby84 said:
groucho said:
zuby84 said:
Would you take on a large roofing job given to you by a Muslim?

In any case; I believe you belong on this forum https://www.stormfront.org/forum/f39/ and not Pistonheads.
No
Do you openly advertise that? If not, why not?
Surely you need to obey the laws of this land and if not - perhaps you should move somewhere else more compatible with your views? wink
Perhaps you should shut up.

rollondeath

317 posts

120 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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zuby84 said:
With all due respect, that's quite a pedantic argument that uses a "technicality" in trying to justify negative-feelings/discrimination towards Muslims. You're right, but every man and his dog knows what the underlying meaning of a "racist" is.

What would you call an attack on a Muslim/Mosque by a white supremacist if not "racist"? Genuine debate.


Edited by zuby84 on Sunday 14th September 20:34
Why do you think there are negative feelings/discrimination against muslims?

lord trumpton

7,413 posts

127 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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zuby84 said:
groucho said:
zuby84 said:
Would you take on a large roofing job given to you by a Muslim?

In any case; I believe you belong on this forum https://www.stormfront.org/forum/f39/ and not Pistonheads.
No
Do you openly advertise that? If not, why not?
Surely you need to obey the laws of this land and if not - perhaps you should move somewhere else more compatible with your views? wink
He is entitled to believe what he wants.

If he wants to be a racist then its up to him - if we are to allow people free speech then its free speech not free speech as long as you don't say anything we might not like.

I'd go far as to say that there are a lot more racist people on the forum, except they pretend not to be because its not the done thing.

I neither condone nor disagree with his views - just making the point seeing as all the PC brigade are wading in.

stripy7

806 posts

188 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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rollondeath said:
Why do you think there are negative feelings/discrimination against muslims?
Why are there negative feelings/discrimination against black people, Christians, Atheists, Jews, Gypsies, Travellers, people with red hair, the Welsh (feel free to add your own......).

Because there are a lot of ignorant, insecure and fundamentally stupid people out there.

zuby84

995 posts

191 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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lord trumpton said:
He is entitled to believe what he wants.
I didn't suggest otherwise. Of course he's entitled to believe in anything he wants and I respect people for being honest both to themselves and to others rather than dilly-dallying and being afraid to say what they really think. If he can do this without breaking any laws; then I've not got any complaints at all. smile

benjj

6,787 posts

164 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Hatred and fear of Islam is perfectly understandable in a modern pseudo-Christian democracy like ours.

Beheadings are just fuel on the fire.

The first/next major hurdle for the powers that be is when we start seeing large scale 'revenge' attacks on UK soil.

I'm expecting them when Alan Henning's beheading tape is released in about 10 days.

Muntu

7,635 posts

200 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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zuby84 said:
What would you call an attack on a Muslim/Mosque by a white supremacist if not "racist"? Genuine debate.
Attack on a moslem - depends on the race of said moslem surely?

Attack on a mosque - Vandalism presumably

Muntu

7,635 posts

200 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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stripy7 said:
The original is better:


TheRealFingers99

1,996 posts

129 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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benjj said:
Hatred and fear of Islam is perfectly understandable in a modern pseudo-Christian democracy like ours.
Why?



benjj said:
The first/next major hurdle for the powers that be is when we start seeing large scale 'revenge' attacks on UK soil.

I'm expecting them when Alan Henning's beheading tape is released in about 10 days.
Even by the standards of the Muslim hating sick-puppies, revenge attacks on ordinary Muslims on behalf of an aid worker (apparently employed by a Muslim NGO) are barking mad.

petrolsniffer

2,461 posts

175 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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benjj said:
The first/next major hurdle for the powers that be is when we start seeing large scale 'revenge' attacks on UK soil.

I'm expecting them when Alan Henning's beheading tape is released in about 10 days.
surprised it hasn't happened already loads of stuff on facebook instilling hatred not be long until some drunk skidhead mouth breathers beat the first unlucky muslim they see.

BoRED S2upid

19,717 posts

241 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Just heard Cameron refer to ISIS as ISAL just like the USA calls it? What's that all about?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

248 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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BoRED S2upid said:
Just heard Cameron refer to ISIS as ISAL just like the USA calls it? What's that all about?
benjj said:
IS: Islamic State
ISIS: Islamic State in Iraq and Syria
ISIL: Islamic State in Iraq and Levant

All one and the same thing.