Next EU Meddling Target: Vacuum Cleaners

[alangla]

Dave Hedgehog said:

matchmaker said:

Our Henry is 1200W and better than any stty Dyson!

its not the wattage that's important but more the efficiency of the motor / design

One that's always got me is that vacuum cleaner/heater/power tool manufacturers tend to advertise their products on the basis of their power consumption, rather than their power output. Surely a directive insisting on labelling on, say, air watts/BTU output/torque & rpm for those examples would be more useful than simply limiting the power consumption of each device. Either way, it's always struck me as silly to buy a device on the basis of its (high) power consumption rather than any measure of how efficient it is at using that power.

[fido]

currybum said:

Sometimes its like a Dailymail reader / UKIP swingers party in here.

So because I don't like some twunt from the EU telling me what sort of hoover I cannot buy that makes me a kipper?!

turbobloke said:

That's different though, as it would be a meddling twunt in Westminster, and we have more of a chance of putting them out of a job than unelected meddling twunts of the EU variety.

Let's be realistic .. even the most inbred Liberal Democrat would struggle to come up with something as meddlesome as how powerful my f*g hoover is.

alangla said:

Pragmatism

Yes exactly - like displaying the calorific rating on food products instead of banning me from buying a large burger!

Edited by fido on Thursday 21st August 15:15

[rs1952]

turbobloke said:

oyster said:

currybum said:

fido said:

not some meddling twunt from Brussels.

Sometimes its like a Dailymail reader / UKIP swingers party in here.

...If it wasn't Brussels meddling it would be Westminster instead.

That's different though, as it would be a meddling twunt in Westminster, and we have more of a chance of putting them out of a job than unelected meddling twunts of the EU variety.

When did you last vote a Whitehall civil servant out of a job?

[turbobloke]

rs1952 said:

turbobloke said:

oyster said:

currybum said:

fido said:

not some meddling twunt from Brussels.

Sometimes its like a Dailymail reader / UKIP swingers party in here.

...If it wasn't Brussels meddling it would be Westminster instead.

That's different though, as it would be a meddling twunt in Westminster, and we have more of a chance of putting them out of a job than unelected meddling twunts of the EU variety.

When did you last vote a Whitehall civil servant out of a job?

Sort of, in May 2010

Vote Conservative, get a Coalition with the LibDims, get Gove aka the most popular Secretary of State for Education in years but OK by me, then watch meddling civil servants "move on".

Four senior civil servants are quitting the Department for Education amid reports they have been frozen out by the Government

Article said:

The departures of Sir David Bell, the permanent secretary since 2006, and three others have prompted claims that Mr Gove, the Education Secretary, has engineered a clear out of Labour-appointed officials.

More of that should have happened across the shop.

[Funkycoldribena]

What is there left to muck about with?
All beer below 3%?
Central heating max of 22?

[750turbo]

Funkycoldribena said:

What is there left to muck about with?
All beer below 3%?
Central heating max of 22?

Olive Oil.

Wasn't there something about it only being available in Restaurants in sealed containers, don't thing the French were too happy! (And probably told them to do one)

[Jimbeaux]

This sucks.

[anonymous-user]

mikesalt said:

Is there anything in our day-to-day lives that the EU doesn't want to meddle with?

Economic growth, unemployment, CAP, EU fraud... just all the difficult important things.

[fido]

Jimbeaux said:

This sucks.

The whole EU seems to be one deflating experience.

[Jimbeaux]

fido said:

Jimbeaux said:

This sucks.

The whole EU seems to be one deflating experience.

I picked up on that; dusting off the old Common Market trading block seems the answer here.

[markcoznottz]

Won't people just spend longer hoovering with a weaker motor?....

[XM5ER]

turbobloke said:

Article said:

The departures of Sir David Bell, the permanent secretary since 2006, and three others have prompted claims that Mr Gove, the Education Secretary, has engineered a clear out of Labour-appointed officials.

More of that should have happened across the shop.

Interesting, Bell is the Common Purpose tosser at the center(left) of the Leveson inquiry attempted clusterfk of the free press. Well done Mr Gove, shame Cameroon does not have similar balls.

[powerstroke]

Jimbeaux said:

This sucks.

No
Maybe the first new EU law that doesn't suck!!!

[130R]

currybum said:

A relatively simple rule change means engineers have to be more efficient

You could use the same argument to ban 99% of the cars people on this forum drive ...

[Derek Smith]

We used to live in a large 4-bed place with a great deal of floor area. We always bought powerful vacuum cleaners, at least going by the wattage. They tended to last 3 or 4 years. A couple were less than reliable and so we asked advice and were told to opt for a SEBO. I was stunned when the chap suggested the 1300W would be the best buy.

Was told to try for a month and then, if it didn't show its worth, he'd replace it. After a fortnight we decided it was what we wanted. That was around 5 years ago and it is still at full suck. We've been in a smaller, 3 bed, place for 2 years now and 1300W is over-powered.

If Sebo can do it with 1300W then so can other companies.

I agree that governments should keep their noses out of my life but I can't see the problem with this restriction.

[turbobloke]

Derek Smith said:

I agree that governments should keep their noses out of my life but I can't see the problem with this restriction.

Link in the OP said:

The new European rules are part of the EU's energy efficiency directive, designed to help tackle climate change.

Pointless policy founded on fairytales without an iota of impact - except on freedom of choice and manufacturers' budgets.

[Octoposse]

On the plus side thanks to crappy 'energy efficient' light bulbs you won't be able to see the dirt accumulating anyway . . .

[turbobloke]

Octoposse said:

On the plus side thanks to crappy 'energy efficient' light bulbs you won't be able to see the dirt accumulating anyway . . .

That was almost enough for me to ditch a large stock of 100W energy inefficient bulbs bought before the ban

[paranoid airbag]

In one sense I find it hard to care about the god-given right to be sold inefficient vacumn cleaners; and don't kid yourself that they're "powerful". They're just inefficient. Put it into perspective: how much longer would a human (power consumption < 100W for moderate activity) take to do the same job? Really twenty times longer? (Or alternatively, give that human 2000W and a bicycle/other light vehicle and they'd damn near crack 50mph - more if you wanted to get really nerdy about aero). That's a very high power/effect ratio, which stinks of lazy engineering to me.

Although, the point of principles, like keeping govt out where the free market could do the job, is that you should stick to them even for things you don't care about.

[Andehh]

fk it, ours is a 2100w Vax one and it sucks so strongly i can see the trees bending outside. Our second one and it really does the job well....

Less suction just means more hoovering & more fking energy wasted as I fume around the house when shes out for the week and I'm left in charge!


Though I can see part of their point, smaller motor, force more efficiency...