So - Just who is the Greatest Threat to the World?
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scherzkeks said:
Jimbeaux said:
No problem; that hustling community you so despise will be around long after whatever cradle to grave teet you are sucking off is gone. Try to be less obvious, you might yet manage to sneak up on someone.
Did you say you had 6 months of carried-over leave? No wonder you are so angry -- and bitter.
Russia
It's basically going back to a Stalinist level of repression and it is not getting publicity at all in western press.
Almost all TV channels slavishly following the government line. If you're a channel that disagrees, you get shut down.
All citizens with dual nationality/residency in another country must declare it in person in Russia by 4 October or face up to 2 years in prison. There was a 3 hour national TV program on Saturday which accused 13 prominent artists/singers etc of being traitors ("enemy of the state" translated) as each if them had expressed an opinion on one or more topics that disagreed with the government line.
New law proposed to introduce exit visas for people to leave the country. In addition, exit visas could be refused to those 1) with any debt (e.g. Mortgage), 2) criminal convictions related to political opposition, 3) people with multiple citizenship.
Vlad's massively stirring the nationalist/patriotic pot, who knows what long term ideas he has.
The list goes on. I'd add more but my gf (a Russian who managed to "escape" a few years ago) actually gets quite upset talking about it
Oh, and that's obviously all in addition to the Crimea/Ukraine fiasco. Looks like Russia's experiment with democracy might not last too much longer apart from as a fiction on paper.
It's basically going back to a Stalinist level of repression and it is not getting publicity at all in western press.
Almost all TV channels slavishly following the government line. If you're a channel that disagrees, you get shut down.
All citizens with dual nationality/residency in another country must declare it in person in Russia by 4 October or face up to 2 years in prison. There was a 3 hour national TV program on Saturday which accused 13 prominent artists/singers etc of being traitors ("enemy of the state" translated) as each if them had expressed an opinion on one or more topics that disagreed with the government line.
New law proposed to introduce exit visas for people to leave the country. In addition, exit visas could be refused to those 1) with any debt (e.g. Mortgage), 2) criminal convictions related to political opposition, 3) people with multiple citizenship.
Vlad's massively stirring the nationalist/patriotic pot, who knows what long term ideas he has.
The list goes on. I'd add more but my gf (a Russian who managed to "escape" a few years ago) actually gets quite upset talking about it
Oh, and that's obviously all in addition to the Crimea/Ukraine fiasco. Looks like Russia's experiment with democracy might not last too much longer apart from as a fiction on paper.
The Crack Fox said:
Pommygranite said:
Are there any examples post WW2 where America has got involved for the better?
A very good question. I don't know the answer though. Anyone?It is a nation's obligation to look after it's own interests first. As to good for others, I believe there are some. Keeping the Soviet Union from moving further west may come to mind. Hell, if they went unchecked, it might be you all living in council houses in Luton instead of those misunderstood Muslims.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 27th August 03:18
Jimbeaux said:
The Crack Fox said:
Pommygranite said:
Are there any examples post WW2 where America has got involved for the better?
A very good question. I don't know the answer though. Anyone?It is a nation's obligation to look after it's own interests first. As to good for others, I believe there are some. Keeping the Soviet Union from moving further west may come to mind. Hell, if they went unchecked, it might be you all living in council houses in Luton instead of those misunderstood Muslims.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 27th August 03:18
Pommygranite said:
Jimbeaux said:
The Crack Fox said:
Pommygranite said:
Are there any examples post WW2 where America has got involved for the better?
A very good question. I don't know the answer though. Anyone?It is a nation's obligation to look after it's own interests first. As to good for others, I believe there are some. Keeping the Soviet Union from moving further west may come to mind. Hell, if they went unchecked, it might be you all living in council houses in Luton instead of those misunderstood Muslims.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 27th August 03:18
Jimbeaux said:
Pommygranite said:
Jimbeaux said:
The Crack Fox said:
Pommygranite said:
Are there any examples post WW2 where America has got involved for the better?
A very good question. I don't know the answer though. Anyone?It is a nation's obligation to look after it's own interests first. As to good for others, I believe there are some. Keeping the Soviet Union from moving further west may come to mind. Hell, if they went unchecked, it might be you all living in council houses in Luton instead of those misunderstood Muslims.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 27th August 03:18
Pommygranite said:
Jimbeaux said:
Pommygranite said:
Jimbeaux said:
The Crack Fox said:
Pommygranite said:
Are there any examples post WW2 where America has got involved for the better?
A very good question. I don't know the answer though. Anyone?It is a nation's obligation to look after it's own interests first. As to good for others, I believe there are some. Keeping the Soviet Union from moving further west may come to mind. Hell, if they went unchecked, it might be you all living in council houses in Luton instead of those misunderstood Muslims.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 27th August 03:18
TheRealFingers99 said:
The Crack Fox said:
Pommygranite said:
Are there any examples post WW2 where America has got involved for the better?
A very good question. I don't know the answer though. Anyone?Jimbeaux said:
TheRealFingers99 said:
The Crack Fox said:
Pommygranite said:
Are there any examples post WW2 where America has got involved for the better?
A very good question. I don't know the answer though. Anyone?Stelvio1 said:
Russia - with their nuclear arsenal with a nutter on the trigger?
IS - for being, well just full of jihad nutters?
China - just sitting quietly in the background, waiting to pounce?
- or us for just sitting on our backsides waiting for something to happen??
Have I missed anyone out?
yes youve missed the biggest danger. People taking offence at simplistinc things ang blowing it out of proportion. People are too oversensitiveIS - for being, well just full of jihad nutters?
China - just sitting quietly in the background, waiting to pounce?
- or us for just sitting on our backsides waiting for something to happen??
Have I missed anyone out?
Beyond Rational said:
Was that the bit where the U.S broke the arms embargo in order to supply weapons to the misunderstood Muslims?
It's the bit where NATO successfully intervened to stop ethnic cleansing and genocide and managed to put a lid on a civil war.Seriously, what on earth do you think you're adding by saying stuff like "misunderstood Muslims"?
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