Tory MP defection.
Discussion
BlackLabel said:
"Poll suggests Ukip set for big win in Clacton by-election
Ukip look set to win the Clacton by-election convincingly, according to a new poll.
The by-election follows the decision by MP Douglas Carswell to defect from the Conservatives to Nigel Farage's party.
The Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday has Ukip on 64%, way ahead of the Tories on 20%, with Labour on 13% and the Lib Dems on just 2%."
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-08-30/nigel-far...
This could potentially be a game changer for 2015. I must admit my first thought was to question whether Carswell would keep the seat under a UKIP banner, but if this carries through then he could even increase his majority. What then for other Eurosceptic Tory MPs? What do the Conservatives offer them if not the "safe" option of a Conservative seat? Ukip look set to win the Clacton by-election convincingly, according to a new poll.
The by-election follows the decision by MP Douglas Carswell to defect from the Conservatives to Nigel Farage's party.
The Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday has Ukip on 64%, way ahead of the Tories on 20%, with Labour on 13% and the Lib Dems on just 2%."
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-08-30/nigel-far...
AJS- said:
BlackLabel said:
"Poll suggests Ukip set for big win in Clacton by-election
Ukip look set to win the Clacton by-election convincingly, according to a new poll.
The by-election follows the decision by MP Douglas Carswell to defect from the Conservatives to Nigel Farage's party.
The Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday has Ukip on 64%, way ahead of the Tories on 20%, with Labour on 13% and the Lib Dems on just 2%."
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-08-30/nigel-far...
This could potentially be a game changer for 2015. I must admit my first thought was to question whether Carswell would keep the seat under a UKIP banner, but if this carries through then he could even increase his majority. What then for other Eurosceptic Tory MPs? What do the Conservatives offer them if not the "safe" option of a Conservative seat? Ukip look set to win the Clacton by-election convincingly, according to a new poll.
The by-election follows the decision by MP Douglas Carswell to defect from the Conservatives to Nigel Farage's party.
The Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday has Ukip on 64%, way ahead of the Tories on 20%, with Labour on 13% and the Lib Dems on just 2%."
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-08-30/nigel-far...
Well like it or not we have change.
People are very poor at dealing with anything that doesn't have a precedent, as we can see every time someone pops up to say that all these "lost Tories" will fall back into line once faced with a general election and the vety real possibility of a Labour government.
On these numbers we could very well be going into the next election with a handful of UKIP MPs and the real possibility of many more. It's never happened before but it's happening now and it doesn't seem likely that Cameron posturing will stop it.
People are very poor at dealing with anything that doesn't have a precedent, as we can see every time someone pops up to say that all these "lost Tories" will fall back into line once faced with a general election and the vety real possibility of a Labour government.
On these numbers we could very well be going into the next election with a handful of UKIP MPs and the real possibility of many more. It's never happened before but it's happening now and it doesn't seem likely that Cameron posturing will stop it.
AJS- said:
Well like it or not we have change.
People are very poor at dealing with anything that doesn't have a precedent, as we can see every time someone pops up to say that all these "lost Tories" will fall back into line once faced with a general election and the vety real possibility of a Labour government.
On these numbers we could very well be going into the next election with a handful of UKIP MPs and the real possibility of many more. It's never happened before but it's happening now and it doesn't seem likely that Cameron posturing will stop it.
well I'm hoping we really can't go on with the political People are very poor at dealing with anything that doesn't have a precedent, as we can see every time someone pops up to say that all these "lost Tories" will fall back into line once faced with a general election and the vety real possibility of a Labour government.
On these numbers we could very well be going into the next election with a handful of UKIP MPs and the real possibility of many more. It's never happened before but it's happening now and it doesn't seem likely that Cameron posturing will stop it.
establishment serving this gray and insipid ping pong game of one f
king the economy selling assets and burdening us with debt and uncontrolled immigration and the other lot giving us gruel and a misery induceing energy policy and Brocken promises plenty of stick and not much carrot .. And we have another:
"Rochester and Strood MP Mark Reckless quits Conservative Party for UKIP"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29394697
edit -
his constituency at the last general election:
Con 23,604
Lab 13,651
Lib Dem 7,800
English Democrats 2,182
Green 734
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochester_and_Strood_...
UKIP did not field a candidate here in 2010 ' because of Mr Reckless's well-documented Euro-scepticism'.
"Rochester and Strood MP Mark Reckless quits Conservative Party for UKIP"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29394697
edit -
his constituency at the last general election:
Con 23,604
Lab 13,651
Lib Dem 7,800
English Democrats 2,182
Green 734
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochester_and_Strood_...
UKIP did not field a candidate here in 2010 ' because of Mr Reckless's well-documented Euro-scepticism'.
Edited by BlackLabel on Saturday 27th September 14:59
I think it will resonate with the electorate though.
schmunk said:
Rochester and Strood is another one of "those areas"...
As a constituent I will agree there are some of 'those areas' but all in, it isn't that bad. There is a lot of rural areas, not full of 'those' types, on my road alone there is an Aston, 2 Bentley's, numerous Rangies; none of 'those' types; and some of Rochester is positive ly lovely. But bits are st! Bit like anywhere really... It's certainly not Chatham or Gillingham.
Anyhow. Interesting times ahead...
Edited by jimbobsimmonds on Saturday 27th September 21:22
jimbobsimmonds said:
As a constituent I will agree there are some of 'those areas' but all in, it isn't that bad. There is a lot of rural areas, not full of 'those' types, on my road alone there is an Aston, 2 Bentley's, numerous Rangies; none of 'those' types; and some of Rochester is positive ly lovely. But bits are st! Bit like anywhere really...
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