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Breadvan72 said:
The SRA confirms that this dude is a licensed and regulated practitioner, so he's OK on that one, but the Beeb report that the St John's Ambulance guys are now after him, and they always get their man...
His claim to be Earl of Dublin looks very tenuous at besthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Dublin
All aristo titles are Mickey Mouse, but this pillock's title is completely made up. Also, there's no way that he has all the degrees he claims to have, unless he bought them from some Mickey Mouse degree factory. St John's say that he isn't a member of their outfit, despite his claims to be be their Obersturmbannfuehrer, or something. If he is a member of all the associations and institutes that he claims on his site, he must spend a squillion quid a year on subs. Lack of integrity in these things doesn't bode well for integrity as a practitioner.
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 31st August 08:16
B17NNS said:
Derek Smith said:
Just to clarify: this is a judge telling a lawyer how to dress?.
I was thinking the same.Breadvan72 said:
B17NNS said:
Derek Smith said:
Just to clarify: this is a judge telling a lawyer how to dress?.
I was thinking the same.Not at all. I deplore all legal costume, but that's neither here nor there. The Judge rightly b
ked the idiot for adding stupid adornments to the costume. The fact that the costume is already stupid is another point. There is the added factor that in a homicide trial it is conventional for lawyers to dress even more soberly than usual (white shirts and not coloured ones, for example), and that sort of convention has something to be said for it.
ked the idiot for adding stupid adornments to the costume. The fact that the costume is already stupid is another point. There is the added factor that in a homicide trial it is conventional for lawyers to dress even more soberly than usual (white shirts and not coloured ones, for example), and that sort of convention has something to be said for it. 
Reading an article about this chap ( Legal Cheek if you're interested) I thought I'd check whether JAFLAS was actually a charity. Yes it is, listed on the Charity Commission website. Which gives an address, of course. Here's a streetview: http://goo.gl/maps/ixRjM
I happened to be looking for a suit for the Coalman two weeks ago. For reasons I can't really discuss with you. The Coalman had to go to Jamaica. Got busted coming back through Heathrow. Had a weight under his fez. We worked out it would be handy karma for him to get hold of a suit but he's a very low temperature spade, the Coalman. Goes into court in his kaftan and a bell. This doesn't go down at all well. They can handle the kaftan, they can't handle the bell. So, there's this judge sitting there in a cape like fking Batman and this really rather far out looking hat.
Withnail: Wig.
Danny: No, man, this was more like a long white hat. So, he looks at the Coalman and says "What's all this? This is a court, man. This ain't fancy dress." And the Coalman looks at him and says "You think you look normal, your honour?" gave him two years.
king Batman and this really rather far out looking hat.Withnail: Wig.
Danny: No, man, this was more like a long white hat. So, he looks at the Coalman and says "What's all this? This is a court, man. This ain't fancy dress." And the Coalman looks at him and says "You think you look normal, your honour?"
gave him two years. I'm sure our illustrious Breadvan would be better served by bring addressed (at least on PH, as My Lord.
Only £18.75. But Lord Breadvan of where?
http://www.lordtitles.co.uk/lordship-lord-title-ma...
Only £18.75. But Lord Breadvan of where?
http://www.lordtitles.co.uk/lordship-lord-title-ma...
Breadvan72 said:
The thing is, the Judge wears a stupid outfit (albeit not the one in the press photos) but it's a standard outfit that they all have to wear, not something that he makes up himself, unlike Lord Fruityloops.
Please Sir, I have a question! In my checkered "career" I have been well versed in the concept of uniform. These are the things you have to wear if you want to work here. No uniform, No job.But a Judge has climbed a fairly greasy (and I would assume difficult) pole to get to where they are, and they are at or very near to the pinnacle of that pole. What would happen if one were to spurn the uniform - not for jeans and T-shirt, but for somber, professional dress. If they were to turn up at court highly suited and booted but not in the professional garb what would be the fallout? Would that trial be abandoned? Postponed? (which begs the question who would do that? "Um, sorry, I know we were nearly through this but you all need to go home because your honour refuses to wear his cape and knee highs.")
I assume it would be career suicide, but at what point and by what mechanism would it kick in?
(and... if all you legal types do think it is ridiculous, would you not all chime in with "yeah - he da man I'm in his gang. These threads don't suit this suit, blud.")
Same question for if they did turn up in blue harbours finest elasticated waist denims topped off by logo'd Pri-mar-k finery. That, obviously, would be 'highly inappropriate' but who the hell could tell them, when, and what could/would they do? Ultimately they are there on professional merit (at least in theory) at their judging ability surely? It is the dress of the profession but it is not (what is widely held to be) professional dress.
I'm genuinely intrigued as to what would happen.
(And I'm assuming that that is the sort of thing that would never happen because that, well, that is the sort of thing that would never happen.)
eldar said:
I'm sure our illustrious Breadvan would be better served by bring addressed (at least on PH, as My Lord.
Only £18.75. But Lord Breadvan of where?
http://www.lordtitles.co.uk/lordship-lord-title-ma...
How can these possibly have any standing? Only £18.75. But Lord Breadvan of where?
http://www.lordtitles.co.uk/lordship-lord-title-ma...
Surely they are just a very expensive printing service?
This suggests no standing
http://asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2013/5/Ens...
Edited by Martin4x4 on Friday 5th September 21:53
Increasingly, Judges in the High Court are deciding that no one will wear robes during hearings. I like those Judges! Court dress is a matter of convention and professional conduct rules, not general legal rules.
As for made up and purchased titles, they are just nonsense (but I think the same about so called real titles anyway: so what if your great great x 27 granddad was good at hitting people, who cares?).
As for made up and purchased titles, they are just nonsense (but I think the same about so called real titles anyway: so what if your great great x 27 granddad was good at hitting people, who cares?).
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