PH referendum - Should Scotland be an independent country?
Poll: PH referendum - Should Scotland be an independent country?
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Discussion
pcvdriver said:
nasty person driven by secret forces said:
There are several reasons, he says, why Norway is happy to save its wealth and shrug off the temptations of a luxury life.
"For this kind of system to work, you need to have an enormous level of trust," says Prof Cappelen. "Trust that the money isn't going to be mismanaged - that it's not going to be spent in a way you don't like.
from here"For this kind of system to work, you need to have an enormous level of trust," says Prof Cappelen. "Trust that the money isn't going to be mismanaged - that it's not going to be spent in a way you don't like.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28882312
pcvdriver said:
Evidence, eh? Well you could try asking the council official who'd asked the yes stall to move on, (which was pretty unfair really since they'd been there since before Jim and his mob turned up on their bus). I'm sure their evidence would be satisfactory to you, with them being an independent witness at the scene.
He had hecklers, so what? A politician can't expect to have the whole of any crowd supporting his views. Even his hecklers have said that the egg throwers were not part of their group - they went to say if they'd been of the less restrained persuasion, they wouldn't have bothered with eggs - but chosen a more physical option instead.
Let's look at the egg throwing itself, shall we? Oh dear, the footage seems to have been removed - isn't that a convenient turn of events? There is another video which shows a clean-cut looking character skulking off rather quickly up the alleyway - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYdp-BgGkr8
Jim's own minder's don't seem to be able to do their jobs, as there was no attempt to restrain the guys who slapped the egg down Jim's back - shall we compare this egging to John Prescott's egging? His team were all over the egg thrower like a rash, in an instant. The whole thing stinks of Agent Provocateur.
Enough of this, it's lies and you know it is.He had hecklers, so what? A politician can't expect to have the whole of any crowd supporting his views. Even his hecklers have said that the egg throwers were not part of their group - they went to say if they'd been of the less restrained persuasion, they wouldn't have bothered with eggs - but chosen a more physical option instead.
Let's look at the egg throwing itself, shall we? Oh dear, the footage seems to have been removed - isn't that a convenient turn of events? There is another video which shows a clean-cut looking character skulking off rather quickly up the alleyway - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYdp-BgGkr8
Jim's own minder's don't seem to be able to do their jobs, as there was no attempt to restrain the guys who slapped the egg down Jim's back - shall we compare this egging to John Prescott's egging? His team were all over the egg thrower like a rash, in an instant. The whole thing stinks of Agent Provocateur.
At 8:30 you get a good view of the right ear (empty)
At 8:32 you get a good view of the left ear (empty)
http://vimeo.com/104844421
Stop telling lies it does not help anybody and just makes you look silly.
I can get a screen shot if you need it.
Oh and they were asked to move on as they were laying in wait for him so they could continue their orchestrated attacks.
I am foreign so maybe I dont fully understand but I cant seem to understand why so many English people are against Scotland going independent.
If it would only make Scotland worse off and England better off as is usually claimed, I would have thought the English would be 99% in support of 'parasitic' Scotland becoming independent.
If it would only make Scotland worse off and England better off as is usually claimed, I would have thought the English would be 99% in support of 'parasitic' Scotland becoming independent.
Eclassy said:
I am foreign so maybe I dont fully understand but I cant seem to understand why so many English people are against Scotland going independent.
If it would only make Scotland worse off and England better off as is usually claimed, I would have thought the English would be 99% in support of 'parasitic' Scotland becoming independent.
It's not about England it's about the UK.If it would only make Scotland worse off and England better off as is usually claimed, I would have thought the English would be 99% in support of 'parasitic' Scotland becoming independent.
Eclassy said:
If it would only make Scotland worse off and England better off as is usually claimed, I would have thought the English would be 99% in support of 'parasitic' Scotland becoming independent.
Because it'd cost us a fortune in border controls after they've ruined themselves and we aren't great at those.I think the rest of the union should get a referendum on whether we still want them if they choose to stay in. And it should be an option to just slice up the country at a line proportionately far up the country to the votes and then send the splitters north of the new border.
The worst thing about a result to stay in would be that we won't have heard the last of it.
Scottish, living in Scotland and voting No which has really surprised people who know me. Alex Salmond's flippant attitude to this serious issue leads me to believe he does not have the ability to negotiate, or lead a team negotiating, the best deal for Scotland. Shouting the oppostion down won't work in this situation.
I moved back to Scotland just over 3 years ago, after living overseas for many years. If truth be told, seeing what has happened with this referendum, I question the decision to return here.
I moved back to Scotland just over 3 years ago, after living overseas for many years. If truth be told, seeing what has happened with this referendum, I question the decision to return here.
citizensm1th said:
what a shame I was hoping to be rid of them
oh well next time
My guess is its going to be close ,the bligerant shouty jockaneseoh well next time
Might get out of bed or the pub (I'm assuming non of the yes vote do anything of merit) then the yes lot might just get it ..
Edited by powerstroke on Sunday 31st August 19:19
Scot, born and bred, live near Edinburgh. I'm voting No.
I feel more British than I do Scottish, I spend a fair amount of time working in London, and I just see London as being another place I work in as opposed to being England. I love Scotland, I love the freedom to roam the hills, the fantastic scenery and the sheer emptiness of it all. However, there's a strong chance my job will move to London (banking) so it's with a heavy heart I'd move with it.
It was pointed out earlier that there are huge swathes of Yes supporters who are prepared to believe all the separatist propaganda without possessing the intelligence to understand it's baseless propaganda.
I feel more British than I do Scottish, I spend a fair amount of time working in London, and I just see London as being another place I work in as opposed to being England. I love Scotland, I love the freedom to roam the hills, the fantastic scenery and the sheer emptiness of it all. However, there's a strong chance my job will move to London (banking) so it's with a heavy heart I'd move with it.
It was pointed out earlier that there are huge swathes of Yes supporters who are prepared to believe all the separatist propaganda without possessing the intelligence to understand it's baseless propaganda.
Quick question and apologies if this has been asked already. Assuming Scotland votes Yes to independence, what happens to the names "United Kingdom" and "Great Britain"? As a citizen of the UK, what happens then? Will I still be a citizen of the UK, albeit a new,smaller UK? Will "GB" disappear?
I am English, but as my family are from Northern Ireland, I consider myself first and foremost British, so I hope the Scots vote No and the UK can stay together.
Ultimately, however, an amicable divorce is preferable to an unhappy marriage, so if the Scots want to go it alone, they should be allowed to.
Ultimately, however, an amicable divorce is preferable to an unhappy marriage, so if the Scots want to go it alone, they should be allowed to.
English and living in England. I think it would be a shame to lose Scotland as part of the union. But it's like a marriage. If she doesn't want to be with us anymore no point forcing her. Let her go. But if she walks, she loses all privileges, no picking and choosing the bits she wants to keep.
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