PH referendum - Should Scotland be an independent country?

[Esseesse]

I'm British, not living in the northern region. Why would I want my country broken up?

[Esseesse]

Eclassy said:

I am foreign so maybe I dont fully understand but I cant seem to understand why so many English people are against Scotland going independent.

If it would only make Scotland worse off and England better off as is usually claimed, I would have thought the English would be 99% in support of 'parasitic' Scotland becoming independent.

Because we're British not English.

British>English>European.

And we're subjects, not citizens... regardless of what the passport now says.

[glazbagun]

Scot living in London. Would vote No. In principle I would love for Scotland to be independent, but I wouldn't wish a country run and influenced by Yes campaigners and the SNP on my worst enemy. What they've brought to the table is an insult.

Edited by glazbagun on Sunday 31st August 23:44

[MintyChris]

Living in Scotland.
51 votes for no (81%)
12 votes for yes (19%)

If we saw a result like that Id be over the moon. Some really positive posts here from people living in Scotland and voting no.

I cant however blame some of the folk living in England getting fed up of the nationalist hate coming out of Scotland. I'm as annoyed and bored of it as they are.

[jimbop1]

Esseesse said:

I'm British, not living in the northern region. Why would I want my country broken up?

I don't know but your view comes across as a bit weak with absolutely no passion?

Edited by jimbop1 on Monday 1st September 01:17

[simoid]

Born Scottish, all my life is in Scotland, I'm voting no.

I could've been turned for yes with a decent plan and an honest appraisal of the challenges, but decency and honesty are absent qualities in the yes campaign.

I'm very happy that we run our own education, NHS, police, transport etc, while sharing the pensions burden, military and currency/central bank.

Scotland and the UK have problems but I think the current situation is pretty much optimal for Scotland: get a very large pile of money and have it spend exactly as our parliament fancies.

[Walford]

simoid said:

Born Scottish, all my life is in Scotland, I'm voting no.

I could've been turned for yes with a decent plan and an honest appraisal of the challenges, but decency and honesty are absent qualities in the yes campaign.

I'm very happy that we run our own education, NHS, police, transport etc, while sharing the pensions burden, military and currency/central bank.

Scotland and the UK have problems but I think the current situation is pretty much optimal for Scotland: get a very large pile of money and have it spend exactly as our parliament fancies.

This will change after the No vote, we dont want your Labour MP,s voting on our education, NHS, police, transport etc, issues

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[alfaman]

I'm part Scottish , part English , live overseas.

I believe Scotland would be better off staying part of the UK.

I believe England / people living south of the border could be better off if Scotland votes Yes ( with current political and economic arrangements ). .. I am fed up with the labour party in Scotland voting on exclusively English issues, the subsidisation from England to Scotland, and the additional benefits in Scotland such as free Uni education ( subsidised by the rest of UK ).

Perhaps the best result for the UK overall would be to keep Scotland , but change the economic and political/ voting arrangements ( an English Parliament ? )

[Moonhawk]

Eclassy said:

I am foreign so maybe I dont fully understand but I cant seem to understand why so many English people are against Scotland going independent.

Because for many in the UK - 'English', 'Scottish' etc are just labels based on lines on a map - many of us have ancestry and heritage from all corners of the UK - and don't subscribe to this nationalistic BS about 'celtic nations' battling against oppressive 'anglo saxon' invaders.

My country is the United Kingdom..........yet a small minority of people are trying to break it up against my will and without me even having a say in the matter.

So much for democracy huh!

Edited by Moonhawk on Monday 1st September 08:07

[Fittster]

s2art said:

Fittster said:

Where is the 'live outside Scotland and don't feel it's any of my business' option?

Its none of your business that you will be saddled with huge costs in the event of a yes vote? Fine if the 'you break it, you pay for it' principle was adopted, but that isnt the case.

If you get divorced you get hit in the wallet even if you didn't want your partner to leave.

[McWigglebum4th]

PCVdriver

i live in scotland

I am oppressed and need to vote YES to get ffffffffffffffffffrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddddddddddddddddooooooooooooooooMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!


Being a stupid tory traitor i don't know how i am being oppressed


Could you please list what freedoms i would gain if i moved to england

Also could you please list the extra spending I would see if i moved to england

thanks


Yours sincerely

Tory traitor SCUM

[Johnnytheboy]

I voted no, but I'd prefer to vote for a "don't really mind" option.

On the no side, Scotland clearly belongs in the UK and there is no tangible benefit beyond narrow-minded nationalism (the sort that's looked down upon in the English) that I can see.

On the yes side, it'll be really funny watching Scotland make a hash of their economy, and it'll move the political centre-ground significantly to the right in the remainder of the UK, which would suit me. Oh, and providing we didn't mess up the separation negotiations, it would probably make the rest of us better off.

[WolfyJones]

Moonhawk said:

Because for many in the UK - 'English', 'Scottish' etc are just labels based on lines on a map - many of us have ancestry and heritage from all corners of the UK - and don't subscribe to this nationalistic BS about 'celtic nations' battling against oppressive 'anglo saxon' invaders.

My country is the United Kingdom..........yet a small minority of people are trying to break it up against my will and without me even having a say in the matter.

So much for democracy huh!

Edited by Moonhawk on Monday 1st September 08:07

This ^^^^^

I have Welsh, Scottish, Irish and English ancestry and I'm proud of it, I consider myself British and hate to see these backwards nationalists trying to break up my country,

Makes my piss boil.

[VX Foxy]

Grumfutock said:

Getragdogleg said:

I voted yes, I am English.

I want them to sod off and cock it up, I want Salmond to have egg on his face and for the people to see him for what he is.

I want the English parliament to be free from the influence of the voting Scots and I think we all need this shake up to keep Labour out of No.10 for a long time.

I don't care who is in No.10, just not labour, it could be the green party for all I care I just hate Labour with a passion.

Are we related?

Mum? dad? Is that you?

[MintyChris]

Interesting results so far. Good to see the oppinions in and outside of Scotland.

[RandomTask]

Scottish living in Scotland, I will be voting yes.

I believe the Scottish parliament and the subsequent changes have been really good for Scotland and a future as an independent country offers bright prospects. I think the campaign has shown that Scotland could be a prosperous nation, if we are willing to accept the risks and hard work that goes along with that.

The no campaign have had little positive to say and have clouded the issue with fearmongering statements.

[GG89]

Scottish, live in Glasgow.

Voting No.

[MintyChris]

RandomTask said:

Scottish living in Scotland, I will be voting yes.

I believe the Scottish parliament and the subsequent changes have been really good for Scotland and a future as an independent country offers bright prospects. I think the campaign has shown that Scotland could be a prosperous nation, if we are willing to accept the risks and hard work that goes along with that.

The no campaign have had little positive to say and have clouded the issue with fearmongering statements.

If you genuinely believe the above then I guess you haven't bothered to look into reasons for staying in the UK and equally haven't bothered to try and validate the SNP's ludicrous claims.

I believe the No side is the positive one. Voting No to remain united, it is about respecting your fellow man and not claiming to be something we aren't (victims and at the same time somehow superior).

Nationalism is ugly, it is hateful and divisive. Everything Scotland shouldn't be. We are great united. Why "risk" that?

[Moonhawk]

RandomTask said:

The no campaign have had little positive to say and have clouded the issue with fearmongering statements.

It's quite an accusation - when the yes campaign has done nothing but fear monger the whole time. They simply try and drape it all in a veil of positivity.

Vote yes - otherwise the big bad tories will decimate the NHS.

Vote yes - otherwise the big bad tories will decimate the public sector.

Vote yes - otherwise you'll never get a government you voted for.

etc.

[Moonhawk]

MintyChris said:

I believe the No side is the positive one. Voting No to remain united, it is about respecting your fellow man and not claiming to be something we aren't (victims and at the same time somehow superior).

Yep - it's also about staying together through thick and thin - not taking the ball home when the UK gets into a bit of strife and you think you are better off going it alone because you see big oil coloured pound signs ......conveniently forgetting about all the years when you didn't have oil.