Father kills sons mugger

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Jasandjules

69,913 posts

229 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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Let the police do what exactly?

WCZ

10,531 posts

194 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2014
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bhstewie said:
Incidentally does anyone know how accurate "Find my iPhone" is? i.e. feet or street?
phone has to be turned on, one of my employees had his phone stolen, they turned it on at the address for 60 seconds and he got the location of it (a house about 15 miles away from where it was lost)
he gave the police:
screen shots of the findmyiphone location
apple icloud login
the IMEI number
the entire contact list of the simcard which was put in when the phone was turned on - he searched the electoral roll and found that a couple of the surnames matched up with those of the address which it was briefly turned on at.

a few weeks passed and the police just sent a letter saying that couldn't do anything.

he sent a letter to the address with all the evidence and implied he hadn't contacted the police yet and would prefer not to and gave a PO Box address that the phone could be delivered to if he wished to resolve this and also a contact number, he rang up and basically said "one of my newphews was on the street and someone approached him and asked him if he wanted to buy a phone, he put his sim card in then decided not to buy it"


Pit Pony

8,589 posts

121 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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grumbledoak said:
Just double the sentence for each 'previous', they won't reach ten - 2,4,8,16,32...
even if you do it in months, that's going to work.

32 months, 64 months, 128 months 256 months 512 months

what's that add up to ? 1022 = 85 years. for 9 offences with a nominal 2 month prison sentence

So unlikely to do 10 offences.

rambo19

2,742 posts

137 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Pesty said:
Axionknight said:
Maybe if policing and law enforcement weren't so ineffectual in the UK this chap wouldn't have felt the need to take matters into his own hands.

Ten prior convictions and still up to his usual tricks, it is frankly shameful that despite many prior run ins with the police this chap was still on the streets and continuously allowed to break the law with little or no recourse.
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Agree.

carinaman

21,298 posts

172 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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rambo19 said:
Pesty said:
Axionknight said:
Maybe if policing and law enforcement weren't so ineffectual in the UK this chap wouldn't have felt the need to take matters into his own hands.

Ten prior convictions and still up to his usual tricks, it is frankly shameful that despite many prior run ins with the police this chap was still on the streets and continuously allowed to break the law with little or no recourse.
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Agree.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29053978

So it seems the imprisoned did the correct thing?

bitchstewie

51,277 posts

210 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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carinaman said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29053978

So it seems the imprisoned did the correct thing?
Yes, the Police clearly would have advised him to get his three sons and the biggest knife he could find confused

VeeDubBigBird

440 posts

129 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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TheLordJohn said:
What if your Grandma had a cock, would she be your Grandad?
Ifs, buts and maybes are ridiculous. Let's just stick with the facts.
How do you know she doesn't ??


And sticking with facts, then Father gets a gang together and kills another person. Guilty of Murder, and what about criminal charges for his sons. They got off light for what thy did.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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Going armed with a knife and taking your 3 sons with you hardly makes this guy a hero, his time inside is well deserved I feel. Lucky his kids didn't get time too.

StottyEvo

6,860 posts

163 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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Easily could have been my dad. 5 lads tried to mug me in a secluded area behind a train station. I got away.

I went back with my dad and step brother 20minutes later and found them, luckily they didn't have a knife or it would have got messy. It kicked off and we caught one of them and called the police, nobody was hurt. It turns out that after trying to mug me, they successfully mugged someone else 10minutes later!

After being stabbed in the eye and retaliating, I don't think the dad should be jailed in this instance. I understand he left his house with a knife, but he asked for the phone and defended himself when attacked.

colonel c

7,890 posts

239 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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grumbledoak said:
None of this would have been necessary or possible if the previous judges had locked the wker up for longer for his previous crimes.

As said, a shame about the father's eye.
Exactly this. The Judiciary let this man and society down.