Hacked Celebrity Photos
Discussion
HD Adam said:
Do we get to see pics of Pippa's flange or not? 
4Chan doesn't have them, so they aren't yet in the public domain. But anyway, no confirmation that they were "nude" pictures - they were just "private" pictures.In related news, she was at the table next to us at the pub about a month ago.
kev1974 said:
There's very few pictures of me in my icloud account, because I'm not some kind of selfie w
e.
So I'm not sure what Dippy Pippy has to worry about really.
It's surely only when her boyfriends' icloud accounts get "hacked", rather than her own, that she needs to start worrying?
If you take a photo on your phone it goes to the cloud so she may have a lot she doesn't want seeing. Even if they are not rude photos, everything generally backs up there. e. So I'm not sure what Dippy Pippy has to worry about really.
It's surely only when her boyfriends' icloud accounts get "hacked", rather than her own, that she needs to start worrying?
p1stonhead said:
kev1974 said:
There's very few pictures of me in my icloud account, because I'm not some kind of selfie we.
So I'm not sure what Dippy Pippy has to worry about really.
It's surely only when her boyfriends' icloud accounts get "hacked", rather than her own, that she needs to start worrying?
If you take a photo on your phone it goes to the cloud so she may have a lot she doesn't want seeing. Even if they are not rude photos, everything generally backs up there. e. So I'm not sure what Dippy Pippy has to worry about really.
It's surely only when her boyfriends' icloud accounts get "hacked", rather than her own, that she needs to start worrying?
I'm interested in the thinking in general behind this. I've been in IT for 20-odd years and have seen it all from massive companies getting screwed to small companies moaning that they lost everything because their mate in IT kept the backup on a USB drive that was in his jeans pocket then washed and dried. And when the business had a break in / fire / delete as appropriate it's all gone. Forever.
I have an 8TB NAS at home that has all of my photos on and video's of my daughter through her life to date. In a bout of paranoia i bought a TB of storage on Onedrive as part of office and uploaded the lot. I still keep a copy on the NAS etc. but what if the house burns to the ground and i didn't have it in Microsofts 'safe' hands?
You can go mental thinking about who backs up the backups and who backs that up?
Unless you have something you would get into trouble for then what's the issue?
I have an 8TB NAS at home that has all of my photos on and video's of my daughter through her life to date. In a bout of paranoia i bought a TB of storage on Onedrive as part of office and uploaded the lot. I still keep a copy on the NAS etc. but what if the house burns to the ground and i didn't have it in Microsofts 'safe' hands?
You can go mental thinking about who backs up the backups and who backs that up?
Unless you have something you would get into trouble for then what's the issue?
Davie_GLA said:
I'm interested in the thinking in general behind this. I've been in IT for 20-odd years and have seen it all from massive companies getting screwed to small companies moaning that they lost everything because their mate in IT kept the backup on a USB drive that was in his jeans pocket then washed and dried. And when the business had a break in / fire / delete as appropriate it's all gone. Forever.
I have an 8TB NAS at home that has all of my photos on and video's of my daughter through her life to date. In a bout of paranoia i bought a TB of storage on Onedrive as part of office and uploaded the lot. I still keep a copy on the NAS etc. but what if the house burns to the ground and i didn't have it in Microsofts 'safe' hands?
You can go mental thinking about who backs up the backups and who backs that up?
Unless you have something you would get into trouble for then what's the issue?
If you know what you are doing and only upload stuff to a cloud that is 'harmless' then it is a perfectly useful way of backing up your stuff. The point is that people set up automatic transfers to the cloud and then everything they do gets uploaded without them thinking about it, even the sensitive stuff.I have an 8TB NAS at home that has all of my photos on and video's of my daughter through her life to date. In a bout of paranoia i bought a TB of storage on Onedrive as part of office and uploaded the lot. I still keep a copy on the NAS etc. but what if the house burns to the ground and i didn't have it in Microsofts 'safe' hands?
You can go mental thinking about who backs up the backups and who backs that up?
Unless you have something you would get into trouble for then what's the issue?
If the hackers get hold of their sensitive stuff then they may find a whole heap of pain coming their way.
jshell said:
Highly encrypted portable hard-drive.... 
Kept in multiple places? What happens if it gets broken / lost / whatever. What about your standard stuff that noone will care about? I have means of storing some stuff that i wouldn't want anyone to see but even at that it might be the odd acquired film, music etc.
Murph7355 said:
Pesty said:
What sort of pictures are you taking that this becomes an issue ?
Perhaps start with personal family photos? Do you have kids etc?Not that it really matters. People generally seem to have this belief that the "cloud" is some sort of haven for all their stuff. As the poster you replied to noted, most people have zero clue where the stuff actually gets stored, what protections are around it (not just security but also resilience etc) and what happens if it all goes wrong.
(An awful lot of "professionals" don't to be fair).
With places like Yahoo and Sony, and myriad others, getting hacked, it really is time for people to wake up IMO. And at least be aware of the risks against the benefits.
Yes I have kids, don't take any dodgy photos of them. Anybody hacks my cloud they'd probably just end up confused.
Pesty said:
I would imagine any normal pics like that end up public on Facebook and Twitter anyway for most people these days.
Yes I have kids, don't take any dodgy photos of them. Anybody hacks my cloud they'd probably just end up confused.
You've never taken photos of your kids having a bath? Swimming in the sea? Yes I have kids, don't take any dodgy photos of them. Anybody hacks my cloud they'd probably just end up confused.
The fascination and free for all with things like Facebook and Twitter is all part of the same position (I use neither).
I appreciate I'm somewhat...weird...perhaps. But I do not trust these large corporations as far as I could throw them. And my data is a treasured (and potentially valuable) asset that I want controlled and taken care of properly.
Davie_GLA said:
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Unless you have something you would get into trouble for then what's the issue?
There's no "issue" per se. As long as people don't get upset when access to their stuff is gained from sources they didn't check out/things go missing because assumptions were made around resilience/security.Unless you have something you would get into trouble for then what's the issue?
(I have a separate NAS off site to the house where duplicates of the important data I own gets stored).
Murph7355 said:
There's no "issue" per se. As long as people don't get upset when access to their stuff is gained from sources they didn't check out/things go missing because assumptions were made around resilience/security.
(I have a separate NAS off site to the house where duplicates of the important data I own gets stored).
I am with you on one thing. Facebook. I use it mostly for an organisation i'm a membor of that allows me to arrange things easily with hundreds of people with little effort but i had a proper discussion with the wife about any photos of our daughter we put up there.(I have a separate NAS off site to the house where duplicates of the important data I own gets stored).
I read the t&c's of FB and when i read they effectively assume ownership of the media (not sure if this is exact or not) but on reading i removed anything i thought could be used by some who frequent FB.
Ironically, i have not read Microsofts t&c's fully as for some reason i trust them more than the others.
However, that 'trust' somewhat goes out the window when you hear of Yahoo only making a hack that led to 500m (MILLION!!!!) account details being leaked and it taking 2 years for them to either fess up or even worse only realise.
In other words, you've got to use discretion.
I keep a tremendous amount of data online with my accountant. Their data storage backup is impressive. Offline, different locations and backed up, ie the physical storage medium swopped, monthly. It costs of course, but it is reassuring.
I've got two locations for my confidential data both away from home. I had a flood in my house last Tuesday and not storing my backup HDDs at home was reinforced as a good idea.
Before updating the drives I disconnect from the internet, do a virus check of the computer and then connect the external HDDs. There is a fault with my system in that I only do it every calendar month as it takes time, and not an inconsiderable number of HDDs.
I get the mickey taken out of me a bit but I've been hit by a hacker. They got access to my email account and changed the renewal details on a URL. They took possession of it and then generously allowed me to buy it back at $10,000 first offer, although my host reckoned that I could get it for 'hundreds'. Strangely the email address was Yahoo/BT and this was 18 months ago. Isn't coincidence funny.
Don't use the same password for an email account and any other account. I'd read that but, of course, felt it didn't apply to me. No need to tell me I was an idiot and brought it all on myself. I've worked that out already.
Since then I've changed all my security systems and techniques.
I keep a tremendous amount of data online with my accountant. Their data storage backup is impressive. Offline, different locations and backed up, ie the physical storage medium swopped, monthly. It costs of course, but it is reassuring.
I've got two locations for my confidential data both away from home. I had a flood in my house last Tuesday and not storing my backup HDDs at home was reinforced as a good idea.
Before updating the drives I disconnect from the internet, do a virus check of the computer and then connect the external HDDs. There is a fault with my system in that I only do it every calendar month as it takes time, and not an inconsiderable number of HDDs.
I get the mickey taken out of me a bit but I've been hit by a hacker. They got access to my email account and changed the renewal details on a URL. They took possession of it and then generously allowed me to buy it back at $10,000 first offer, although my host reckoned that I could get it for 'hundreds'. Strangely the email address was Yahoo/BT and this was 18 months ago. Isn't coincidence funny.
Don't use the same password for an email account and any other account. I'd read that but, of course, felt it didn't apply to me. No need to tell me I was an idiot and brought it all on myself. I've worked that out already.
Since then I've changed all my security systems and techniques.
Garvin said:
durbster said:
Garvin said:
It's not just you. I cease to be amazed at the number of people who store their entire personal electronic information on some 'cloud' they know not where with a level of security they have not an inkling about! I wouldn't be surprised if they stored their banking details and passwords there also.
Where did people keep their photos before? In a box under the stairs, in the loft?Even when these hacks are exposed and tens of millions of account details get released into the wild, I don't think users really understand what that means but again, that's not necessarily all their fault.
The developers go to great lengths to make these things convenient for us, and it's abundantly clear that users will take convenience over security. With that in mind, shouldn't these systems force us to use more secure methods?
I mean, we know for a fact passwords are generally rubbish, and telling people doesn't really change anything. The software developers know this, so they know millions of accounts are vulnerable to being hacked, but they make stronger security solutions such as 2-step verification optional. Why?
Don't get me wrong, if your password is 'password123', it's hard to be sympathetic when you inevitably get hacked, but I think we should be pointing a lot of the blame at the providers of these services, instead of the people who use them. People are doing exactly what we know they will do, so the service providers have a responsibility to look after them accordingly.
Whilst I agree that people can be muppets w passwords and such, it really isn't as simple (IMO) as people suggest!
From memory, I think Apple insist on a new password that you have NEVER used before whenever you need to reset it? Others do similar and if we are 'forced' to use upper and lower case along with random characters and symbols, new passwords become very hard to remember without writing them down or storing them somewhere?
Across several banks, work systems and sites such as PH, how do most cope?
One good friend (IT bod funnily enough) uses phrases for passwords and has set patterns for upper and lower case (1st, 3rd and 7th for example.) You end up with (eg)
The Quick Brown Fox Jumps Over The Lazy Dog becomes:
TqBfjoTld
He then uses set alternates or substitutions - a=@ etc.
A real pain it seems but how on earth do you remember loads of password/phrases to avoid a cascade if someone hacks the system itself?
Blaming 'stupid users' isn't always fair..... 😂
From memory, I think Apple insist on a new password that you have NEVER used before whenever you need to reset it? Others do similar and if we are 'forced' to use upper and lower case along with random characters and symbols, new passwords become very hard to remember without writing them down or storing them somewhere?
Across several banks, work systems and sites such as PH, how do most cope?
One good friend (IT bod funnily enough) uses phrases for passwords and has set patterns for upper and lower case (1st, 3rd and 7th for example.) You end up with (eg)
The Quick Brown Fox Jumps Over The Lazy Dog becomes:
TqBfjoTld
He then uses set alternates or substitutions - a=@ etc.
A real pain it seems but how on earth do you remember loads of password/phrases to avoid a cascade if someone hacks the system itself?
Blaming 'stupid users' isn't always fair..... 😂
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Use a password manager such as KeePass or LastPass.
I work in IT and have around 300 sets of credentials to remember and you're quite right, can't be done without a suitable tool for the job.
Until someone hacks your "password manager" - then your online life is effectively over.I work in IT and have around 300 sets of credentials to remember and you're quite right, can't be done without a suitable tool for the job.
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