Clerk job - guess the salary!

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skeggysteve

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5,724 posts

216 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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I read the first part of this but was staggered when I read what the pay is.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29011919

"The clerk of the House is the principal constitutional adviser to the Commons, and adviser on all its procedure and business."

So what do you think the pay is?

Or am I out of date with pay scales?

If you can't be bothered to click the link the pay is £200k


Eric Mc

121,763 posts

264 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Just because the word "Clerk" is used in the job description does not mean that the job is a simple "Office Monkey" type job. There are lots of "Clerks" in the legal services (such as "Clerk of Chambers") who are on very good salaries - probably close to the Clerk of the Commons.

Some would argue that "Clerk of Chambers" is the most important job in Chambers - more important than Head of Chambers.

davepoth

29,395 posts

198 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Given that the British constitution is not a single document, but rather made up of lots of things, including the Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights, common law, statute law, legal precedent, European law, religious law, and some things that Disraeli wrote down on the back of an envelope one Tuesday (possibly) it's a very complex role that requires a great amount of in-depth knowledge.

Eric Mc

121,763 posts

264 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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I wonder if an Australian is the best person for such a job though?

skeggysteve

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5,724 posts

216 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Eric, I do know what that type of clerk does and wouldn't consider it to be an office monkey job.

But I was just surprised at the pay - maybe it's because the clerk has to has some intelligence to advise the MP's that, in general, have little.

Sheepshanks

32,517 posts

118 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Eric Mc said:
I wonder if an Australian is the best person for such a job though?
Surprising observation.

skeggysteve said:
But I was just surprised at the pay - maybe it's because the clerk has to has some intelligence to advise the MP's that, in general, have little.
I bet there's a lot of MPs who aren't very happy about his salary.

Eric Mc

121,763 posts

264 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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skeggysteve said:
Eric, I do know what that type of clerk does and wouldn't consider it to be an office monkey job.

But I was just surprised at the pay - maybe it's because the clerk has to has some intelligence to advise the MP's that, in general, have little.
I think you might need to read up on the duties of the Clerk of Commons. I would expect an awful lot of it involves an in depth knowledge of parliamentary procedure and protocol - and supervising and checking the records of parliamentary debates etc.

Not to mention a fundamental knowledge of English Law.

skeggysteve

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5,724 posts

216 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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No offence meant Eric, but you might want to read what I said in relation the the job.

hidetheelephants

23,731 posts

192 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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The council Clerk(town, county, whatever) was one of the most powerful non-political posts available; the Town Clerk was a important role with lots of power to get things done and woe betide any uppity elected councillors getting too big for their boots, the modern equivalent would be a council Chief Executive.

Sadly with that amount of power some Town Clerks were the biggest crooks going.

Eric Mc

121,763 posts

264 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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skeggysteve said:
No offence meant Eric, but you might want to read what I said in relation the the job.
Your second post seemed to contradict what your first post said - so I was confused which one to believe.

williamp

19,213 posts

272 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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skeggysteve said:
No offence meant Eric, but you might want to read what I said in relation the the job.
Ok. So how much would YOU want paying to work so closely with so many MP's for so long?? Think of it as danger money ( and see how the outgoing one is being treated by Bercrow)

Eric Mc

121,763 posts

264 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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anonymous said:
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Scale that up to a national level and £200,000 doesn't seem that much.

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

164 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Hang on a mo. That is more than the PM?????

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Eric Mc said:
I wonder if an Australian is the best person for such a job though?
Especially one who has little or no relevant experience, making the salary even more surprising.

Still, it's only the taxpayers' money.

z4RRSchris99

11,218 posts

178 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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this is my godfathers old job, you get a sweet grace and favour flat in Westminster too

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

164 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Sorry, but is nobody else outraged that this post attracts a greater salary than being the Prime Minister?

This once great nation is fked beyond all belief.

TTwiggy

11,499 posts

203 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Grumfutock said:
Sorry, but is nobody else outraged that this post attracts a greater salary than being the Prime Minister?

This once great nation is fked beyond all belief.
Judging by most posts made on this forum, the PM barely deserves minimum wage.

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Grumfutock said:
Sorry, but is nobody else outraged that this post attracts a greater salary than being the Prime Minister?

This once great nation is fked beyond all belief.
AND A FLAT IN WESTMINSTER!

I'M OUTRAGED TOO!!!!!

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

164 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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The sooner Boris takes power and starts leading this monkey cage the better!

greygoose

8,224 posts

194 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2014
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Grumfutock said:
The sooner Boris takes power and starts leading this monkey cage the better!
Boris is some sort of revolutionary now is he?!