Jack the Ripper finally identified

Jack the Ripper finally identified

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Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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I saw this, all seems a bit too convenient. I'm sure this won't be the end of the matter.

VinceFox

20,566 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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I've been on casebook.org for donkeys, theyre picking it apart now. This could still be true, but there are a lot of leaps of faith.

Qwert1e

545 posts

118 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Grumfutock said:
Can we now prove which chippy Elvis is working in?
Well, he's a liar and I'm not sure about....

Qwert1e

545 posts

118 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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VinceFox said:
I've been on casebook.org for donkeys, theyre picking it apart now. This could still be true, but there are a lot of leaps of faith.
Not surprised. This makes the Loch Ness Monster look like a sure fire certainty!

Grumfutock

5,274 posts

165 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Qwert1e said:
Grumfutock said:
Can we now prove which chippy Elvis is working in?
Well, he's a liar and I'm not sure about....
Nice. Well done.

Qwert1e

545 posts

118 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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smiledrink

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Damn Poles, coming over here, stealin' our serial killers jobs.

Chlamydia

1,082 posts

127 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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A man who lived in the same small area as the victims and was known to visit prostitutes has his DNA found on a piece of clothing? Surely all that is evidence of is that he 'visited' one at some point maybe months before, I can't imagine they regularly washed their clothes?

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Chlamydia said:
A man who lived in the same small area as the victims and was known to visit prostitutes has his DNA found on a piece of clothing? Surely all that is evidence of is that he 'visited' one at some point maybe months before, I can't imagine they regularly washed their clothes?
2/10 Go read it again.

The scarf was way beyond her means, presumably left by the attacker. It was spattered with her blood and his semen.

Chlamydia

1,082 posts

127 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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grumbledoak said:
Chlamydia said:
A man who lived in the same small area as the victims and was known to visit prostitutes has his DNA found on a piece of clothing? Surely all that is evidence of is that he 'visited' one at some point maybe months before, I can't imagine they regularly washed their clothes?
2/10 Go read it again.

The scarf was way beyond her means, presumably left by the attacker. It was spattered with her blood and his semen.
...according to the guy who now owns it and who has absolutely no reason to stretch a point at all scratchchin

Hey I'm not saying it wasn't AK, out of all of the suspects over the years he's always stood out to me to be the most believable, but this doesn't even come close to proving he was the Ripper. The shawl hasn't been proved to be hers, it could have been at the site before she was killed there, his DNA may have been on her clothing already and transferred to it from her, it may have been on the shawl - he was known to be a prolific 'self abuser', (it's one of the reasons he was committed to an asylum), he could've had the shawl and dropped it there earlier. She may even have owned the shawl, found it or stolen it, had a bit of how's your father with AK earlier and then been killed by the Ripper. Or any of many other possible ways this could be explained.

grumbledoak

31,532 posts

233 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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I'm not claiming there are no holes in the story, but if the DNA test is to be believed the semen on it suggests it was in his possession long enough to have a quiet moment alone, and the blood was hers from the attack.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Axionknight said:
Damn Poles, coming over here, stealin' our serial killers jobs.
Yes, we heard that when Gettoff posted it earlier........... Wasn't that funny then.

MentalSarcasm

6,083 posts

211 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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An alternative is that he was her last client before she was killed. He used her shawl to clean himself off, she walks on to find her next client, and instead gets murdered, leaving the evidence of their encounter perfectly preserved on her shawl.

The articles blurs the lines between two different types of killer - the schizophrenic misogynist who commits extremely violent murders, and the intelligent killer who murders then cuts up the bodies and leaves clever clues for the police to find.

From the very basic stuff I read on psychology a good few years ago, a schizophrenic attack more likely to be frenzied, with no real logic behind it. I doubt a schizophrenic would go the lengths of cutting out body parts and then posting them to the police with dodgy letters calling them "Boss", let alone targetting women that the killer knew wouldn't really be missed by society.

I'm not saying that Jack the Ripper, whoever he was, wasn't mad. But I think it's a far more cold, clinical kind of madness than manic schizophrenia.

Not only that, but even this woman was killed by the Polish guy, it doesn't mean he killed the others. They're not even sure for certain how many were definitely killed by "The Ripper", 5 is the accepted number but there are other potential ones as well. Sadly prostitutes were easy targets because they were women, therefore would have found it difficult to fight back, and as prostitutes no one really cared about them. It was the gruesome nature of the attacks that shocked people, not the fact that prostitutes were being attacked.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Mr GrimNasty said:
I saw this, all seems a bit too convenient. I'm sure this won't be the end of the matter.
Yep, the more I read the story, the more amazing the evidence was.
Sounds like the evidence is being twisted to fit the crime.



Randy Winkman

16,130 posts

189 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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I thought Sherlock Holmes sorted all this out ages ago. In fact, I saw a film all about it once.

FiF

44,069 posts

251 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Personally happy with any theory / evidence which punts the speculation of that rude bh Patricia Cornwell into touch.


Negative Creep

24,977 posts

227 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Randy Winkman said:
I thought Sherlock Holmes sorted all this out ages ago. In fact, I saw a film all about it once.
You're thinking of Johnny Depp, he was the one who caught him. But then they gave him day release to star in The Lord of the Rings films! The justice system in this country is a joke!

vonuber

17,868 posts

165 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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This seems a bit of a stretch doesn't it.

mattley

3,024 posts

222 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Round these parts it's always been local lore that Kosminski was the ripper. A mate of mine worked in the Leavesden hospital as a nurse during the 80's and it was just accepted as fact passed down through working generations.




stevensdrs

3,210 posts

200 months

Sunday 7th September 2014
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Don't believe it. I'm more inclined to believe the ripper was a woman.