Ed Miliband

[PGNCerbera]

NailedOn said:

No country ever taxed its way to prosperity.

Nailed

[Hoofy]

https://youtu.be/14Wy4Vh-4bM

[KTF]

Hoofy said:

https://youtu.be/14Wy4Vh-4bM

I admit that he comes over a lot better in that compared to last night.

[Hoofy]

KTF said:

I admit that he comes over a lot better in that compared to last night.

Yeah! Scary.

[MarshPhantom]

PGNCerbera said:

NailedOn said:

No country ever taxed its way to prosperity.

Nailed

High earners pay 45% income tax in Germany, doesn't seem to be doing them too much harm.

[Cobnapint]

KTF said:

I admit that he comes over a lot better in that compared to last night.

Which means he's better at talking about his earlier life and what curry he likes, rather than policies and being a politician, which is his actual job.

That makes him unemployable in my book.

[Gargamel]

MarshPhantom said:

High earners pay 45% income tax in Germany, doesn't seem to be doing them too much harm.

Er and in the UK. What's your point ?

Would Great Britain be any better if the tax rate went up, would living standards for the poorest 10% rise if the total tax rises?

Their are many constituencies in the UK where Labour have held the seats for 50 years (Glasgow for instance) Would you say the ordinary lives of the poorest 10% have been improved much by Labour during their years in power, and regardless of tax rates ?

[MarshPhantom]

Gargamel said:

MarshPhantom said:

High earners pay 45% income tax in Germany, doesn't seem to be doing them too much harm.

Er and in the UK. What's your point ?

Would Great Britain be any better if the tax rate went up, would living standards for the poorest 10% rise if the total tax rises?

Their are many constituencies in the UK where Labour have held the seats for 50 years (Glasgow for instance) Would you say the ordinary lives of the poorest 10% have been improved much by Labour during their years in power, and regardless of tax rates ?

Someone said you can't tax your way to prosperity, Germany is very prosperous yet they pay plenty of tax.

[turbobloke]

MarshPhantom said:

Gargamel said:

MarshPhantom said:

High earners pay 45% income tax in Germany, doesn't seem to be doing them too much harm.

Er and in the UK. What's your point ?

Would Great Britain be any better if the tax rate went up, would living standards for the poorest 10% rise if the total tax rises?

Their are many constituencies in the UK where Labour have held the seats for 50 years (Glasgow for instance) Would you say the ordinary lives of the poorest 10% have been improved much by Labour during their years in power, and regardless of tax rates ?

Someone said you can't tax your way to prosperity, Germany is very prosperous yet they pay plenty of tax.

Their economy isn't doing as well as the UK economy in terms of growth, the point about moving to prosperity is that it doesn't relate to a position but to an improving trend. Don't look too closely at Germany for that, just look closer to home.

[Funk]

KTF said:

Hoofy said:

https://youtu.be/14Wy4Vh-4bM

I admit that he comes over a lot better in that compared to last night.

That's because it's all a bit of fluff and nothing at all to do with grown up sensible stuff like a cogent economical strategy or a way to not fk the country.

It was a cynical and carefully calculated/managed appearance to address the widely-held opinion that he's a fking weirdo.

[TEKNOPUG]

MarshPhantom said:

Gargamel said:

MarshPhantom said:

High earners pay 45% income tax in Germany, doesn't seem to be doing them too much harm.

Er and in the UK. What's your point ?

Would Great Britain be any better if the tax rate went up, would living standards for the poorest 10% rise if the total tax rises?

Their are many constituencies in the UK where Labour have held the seats for 50 years (Glasgow for instance) Would you say the ordinary lives of the poorest 10% have been improved much by Labour during their years in power, and regardless of tax rates ?

Someone said you can't tax your way to prosperity, Germany is very prosperous yet they pay plenty of tax.

Do you attribute their "prosperity" to the fact that "they pay plenty of tax"? Or could it be that they have created a Europe-wide single market and currency, whereby all the richer nations pay into a pot, to be distributed to all the poorer countries, so that they have got money to spend on buying goods from Germany? Who do you think the Eurozone actually benefits? Why do you think that whenever there is talk of a Greek bailout, it is always Merkal who is leading the negotiations and why it's always "the German people" that have to foot the bill of the bailout? What do you think will happen to the German economy if the Euro tanks and all these financially-doped countries no longer have borrowed money with which to buy German goods?

I guess that the Germans could just increase their tax rate, eh?

[turbobloke]

Another great call by Ed. "Within hours of the formal start of the campaign, Ed Miliband unveiled Martin Freeman as his latest backer. But awkward questions were soon raised about whether Freeman was an appropriate figure to act as the 'face' of Labour's campaign."

Red Ed Hypocrite Hobbit Is Tax Avoider Who Voted For The Arthur Scargill Far Left Socialist Labour Party in 2001

In some ways it's not a surprising call given the prevalence of champagne socialist hypocrisy in Labour ranks.

[MarshPhantom]

turbobloke said:

Another great call by Ed. "Within hours of the formal start of the campaign, Ed Miliband unveiled Martin Freeman as his latest backer. But awkward questions were soon raised about whether Freeman was an appropriate figure to act as the 'face' of Labour's campaign."

Red Ed Hypocrite Hobbit Is Tax Avoider Who Voted For The Arthur Scargill Far Left Socialist Labour Party in 2001

In some ways it's not a surprising call given the prevalence of champagne socialist hypocrisy in Labour ranks.

The Tories are in the enviable position of not having any celebrity supporters.

[McWigglebum4th]

And when a tory supporter avoids tax then it is exactly what you can expect from a tory as you never hear a tory banging on about tax the rich.

[mph1977]

McWigglebum4th said:

And when a tory supporter avoids tax then it is exactly what you can expect from a tory as you never hear a tory banging on about tax the rich.

tax avoidance is legal

tax evasion is illegal

[NailedOn]

MarshPhantom said:

PGNCerbera said:

NailedOn said:

No country ever taxed its way to prosperity.

Nailed

High earners pay 45% income tax in Germany, doesn't seem to be doing them too much harm.

Germany has GDP growth of 1.6% vs UK of 3.0%.
The highest rate of income tax in both countries is 45%.

The original quote refers to all tax including Labour's mansion tax and the infamous 'tax on bankers' that The Two Eds have allocated eleven times over.

The falsehood of the left is that taxes on the rich can be raised to pay for ALL the demands of everyone. This without causing capital flight.
In today's papers another national poll found a strong majority in favour of raising taxes to pay for the NHS. Of course, the survey omitted to ask the respondents if they personally would be willing to pay more.

[turbobloke]

NailedOn said:

MarshPhantom said:

PGNCerbera said:

NailedOn said:

No country ever taxed its way to prosperity.

Nailed

High earners pay 45% income tax in Germany, doesn't seem to be doing them too much harm.

Germany has GDP growth of 1.6% vs UK of 3.0%.
The highest rate of income tax in both countries is 45%.

The original quote refers to all tax including Labour's mansion tax and the infamous 'tax on bankers' that The Two Eds have allocated eleven times over.

The falsehood of the left is that taxes on the rich can be raised to pay for ALL the demands of everyone. This without causing capital flight.
In today's papers another national poll found a strong majority in favour of raising taxes to pay for the NHS. Of course, the survey omitted to ask the respondents if they personally would be willing to pay more.

It'll be other people's money, that's how the mass market left operates and it's in tune with the Party hierarchy approach.

[Evil Monkey]

turbobloke said:

Another great call by Ed. "Within hours of the formal start of the campaign, Ed Miliband unveiled Martin Freeman as his latest backer. But awkward questions were soon raised about whether Freeman was an appropriate figure to act as the 'face' of Labour's campaign."

Red Ed Hypocrite Hobbit Is Tax Avoider Who Voted For The Arthur Scargill Far Left Socialist Labour Party in 2001

In some ways it's not a surprising call given the prevalence of champagne socialist hypocrisy in Labour ranks.

Bilbo's Mrs doesn't like tax either. Sorry for Daily Mirror link.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/alison-philli...

[turbobloke]

Evil Monkey said:

turbobloke said:

Another great call by Ed. "Within hours of the formal start of the campaign, Ed Miliband unveiled Martin Freeman as his latest backer. But awkward questions were soon raised about whether Freeman was an appropriate figure to act as the 'face' of Labour's campaign."

Red Ed Hypocrite Hobbit Is Tax Avoider Who Voted For The Arthur Scargill Far Left Socialist Labour Party in 2001

In some ways it's not a surprising call given the prevalence of champagne socialist hypocrisy in Labour ranks.

Bilbo's Mrs doesn't like tax either. Sorry for Daily Mirror link.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/alison-philli...

There's a lot of it about - do as we say not as we do. Socialism must be good for other people but not them...tax avoiding, share flipping, kids at fee paying schools, and why not if the choice is there, except for the point that other people doing this are either vilified by Labour or they should be denied the choice in the Scargill flavour of lunacy once favoured by Bilbo.

[davepoth]

If they were proper socialists, they'd be like former president of Uruguay Jose Mujica.

This was the guy who donated 90% of his salary to charities (leaving him and his wife £750 a month) and didn't move to the presidential palace, preferring to stay at his smallholding with his dog that only has three legs. Here's a picture.



That's what socialism is supposed to look like. Not posing in your second kitchen because you're ashamed of how nice the main one is.