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Pan Pan Pan said:
Du1point8 said:
Possibly by now, most will have realized that it was indeed a global recession in 2008, but what Labours 13 years of financial mismanagement did, was leave the UK in a dire financial position when it came to weathering the financial hardships that were to follow.As soon as they got in. Labour raided private pensions, because they saw it as a large chunk of (someone else's hard earned) that `they' wanted to get their hands on, and spend the way `they' wanted to. Typically throwing that money around, to create the illusion, that labour was `working' When really it was not, and indeed never has done.
After they had done that, Gormless Clown then sold off the UK`s gold reserves (at an all time low price) to pay towards continuing the illusion that Labour was working. This is because Labour does not know how to make money, only how to take money. Once they had run out of everybody else's money they, and of course the country was royally stuffed. They even kindly left a note when they got turfed out, saying the money is all gone.
The UK is now in a weakened position which will not allow it to survive another labour government.
Ultimately we probably wont end up as bad as Greece, because there are enough in the UK who are prepared to work for a living, and pay their taxes. But the UK will still be in a poor position to meet any further economic challenges.
Guybrush said:
It's a quite shocking comment on many Brits to think of the number that must still be wanting Labour back in. These people really cannot be in full possession of what a balanced person would consider to be rational thought processes.
I really is quite mind blowing isn't it. Adding to that the number of people that think Natalie Bennett, who is even more Left than Labour, should be in charge, gives you some idea of the percentage of the UK voting population that have something 'missing' up top.Scary stuff.
Cobnapint said:
I really is quite mind blowing isn't it. Adding to that the number of people that think Natalie Bennett, who is even more Left than Labour, should be in charge, gives you some idea of the percentage of the UK voting population that have something 'missing' up top.
Scary stuff.
Its sad because a lot of it is the belief these nasty rich people (whoever they are) are stopping them from having more than they have now.Scary stuff.
The irony is the people they are voting for live in multi million pound homes and often have more than one of them thats what I call rich
Cobnapint said:
Guybrush said:
It's a quite shocking comment on many Brits to think of the number that must still be wanting Labour back in. These people really cannot be in full possession of what a balanced person would consider to be rational thought processes.
I really is quite mind blowing isn't it. Adding to that the number of people that think Natalie Bennett, who is even more Left than Labour, should be in charge, gives you some idea of the percentage of the UK voting population that have something 'missing' up top.Scary stuff.
Guybrush said:
It's a quite shocking comment on many Brits to think of the number that must still be wanting Labour back in. These people really cannot be in full possession of what a balanced person would consider to be rational thought processes.
Maybe their life experience and priorities are different from yours? Assuming that whoever disagrees with you must be unintelligent is not a sign of great intellect in itself.Pan Pan Pan said:
Cobnapint said:
Guybrush said:
It's a quite shocking comment on many Brits to think of the number that must still be wanting Labour back in. These people really cannot be in full possession of what a balanced person would consider to be rational thought processes.
I really is quite mind blowing isn't it. Adding to that the number of people that think Natalie Bennett, who is even more Left than Labour, should be in charge, gives you some idea of the percentage of the UK voting population that have something 'missing' up top.Scary stuff.
That's a very sad reflection of our society of freedom of speech and expression that we are SUPPOSED to live in today.
Cobnapint said:
A lot of people are scared to display any form of agreement with what Farage has to say, even though they may be on the inside.
That's a very sad reflection of our society of freedom of speech and expression that we are SUPPOSED to live in today.
I speak to a lot of people from various backgrounds some quite wealthy some not so and its surprising how many say they will vote UKIP. now is there a situation that when in private conversation they will support UKIP but publicly they will not it will be interesting as the leadership debates indicate anything other than a Conservative led Gov will mean a huge swing to the left.That's a very sad reflection of our society of freedom of speech and expression that we are SUPPOSED to live in today.
I am not sure these polls are as accurate as they could be for instance every poll the Daily Mirror publish favours Miliband and Labour what a surprise.
Pan Pan Pan said:
Cobnapint said:
Guybrush said:
It's a quite shocking comment on many Brits to think of the number that must still be wanting Labour back in. These people really cannot be in full possession of what a balanced person would consider to be rational thought processes.
I really is quite mind blowing isn't it. Adding to that the number of people that think Natalie Bennett, who is even more Left than Labour, should be in charge, gives you some idea of the percentage of the UK voting population that have something 'missing' up top.Scary stuff.
Vote for Labour and we will give you back all the free stuff that the Tories took away.... Free Laptops, TVs, enough money to go on fancy holidays, you don't need to work or find a house, let the Eton boys pay for it all.
What and When did the Great British public have this disease of fecklessness set in? The welfare state (Fantastic Tory invention) was a safety net that people in my Grandparents generation would be embarrassed to use and would only do so it absolutely necessary, plus for only as long as it took to get back on their feet... They were proud to work for their own money. They were driven and worked hard to get the education, ambition and ultimately the rewards that came with it all.
Now many people see welfare as a way of life and sometimes earn more on that than they could actually working. Is it that all these people were hidden, working in the mines and doing the manual work? Then when Labour closed down the majority of the mines they had nowhere else to go?
When exactly did this rot set in and why does Labour think its good to make them think that if they dont succeed in life, its ok as they will get everything they can dream of for free? It promotes the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation to know no better and the UK suffers as a whole.
Du1point8 said:
I find it utterly ridiculous that people are voting on the amount of free things that party will give them.
Vote for Labour and we will give you back all the free stuff that the Tories took away.... Free Laptops, TVs, enough money to go on fancy holidays, you don't need to work or find a house, let the Eton boys pay for it all.
What and When did the Great British public have this disease of fecklessness set in? The welfare state (Fantastic Tory invention) was a safety net that people in my Grandparents generation would be embarrassed to use and would only do so it absolutely necessary, plus for only as long as it took to get back on their feet... They were proud to work for their own money. They were driven and worked hard to get the education, ambition and ultimately the rewards that came with it all.
Now many people see welfare as a way of life and sometimes earn more on that than they could actually working. Is it that all these people were hidden, working in the mines and doing the manual work? Then when Labour closed down the majority of the mines they had nowhere else to go?
When exactly did this rot set in and why does Labour think its good to make them think that if they dont succeed in life, its ok as they will get everything they can dream of for free? It promotes the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation to know no better and the UK suffers as a whole.
Well put. I'm centre right but with a few liberal aspects, and fundamentally believe in a safety net. But it should be that, something that catches you, brushes you down, checks for broken limbs and then helps you back on to the tight rope.Vote for Labour and we will give you back all the free stuff that the Tories took away.... Free Laptops, TVs, enough money to go on fancy holidays, you don't need to work or find a house, let the Eton boys pay for it all.
What and When did the Great British public have this disease of fecklessness set in? The welfare state (Fantastic Tory invention) was a safety net that people in my Grandparents generation would be embarrassed to use and would only do so it absolutely necessary, plus for only as long as it took to get back on their feet... They were proud to work for their own money. They were driven and worked hard to get the education, ambition and ultimately the rewards that came with it all.
Now many people see welfare as a way of life and sometimes earn more on that than they could actually working. Is it that all these people were hidden, working in the mines and doing the manual work? Then when Labour closed down the majority of the mines they had nowhere else to go?
When exactly did this rot set in and why does Labour think its good to make them think that if they dont succeed in life, its ok as they will get everything they can dream of for free? It promotes the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation to know no better and the UK suffers as a whole.
Not a big comfy armchair that is a replacement for finding your way across the tightrope of life.
Du1point8 said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
Cobnapint said:
Guybrush said:
It's a quite shocking comment on many Brits to think of the number that must still be wanting Labour back in. These people really cannot be in full possession of what a balanced person would consider to be rational thought processes.
I really is quite mind blowing isn't it. Adding to that the number of people that think Natalie Bennett, who is even more Left than Labour, should be in charge, gives you some idea of the percentage of the UK voting population that have something 'missing' up top.Scary stuff.
Vote for Labour and we will give you back all the free stuff that the Tories took away.... Free Laptops, TVs, enough money to go on fancy holidays, you don't need to work or find a house, let the Eton boys pay for it all.
What and When did the Great British public have this disease of fecklessness set in? The welfare state (Fantastic Tory invention) was a safety net that people in my Grandparents generation would be embarrassed to use and would only do so it absolutely necessary, plus for only as long as it took to get back on their feet... They were proud to work for their own money. They were driven and worked hard to get the education, ambition and ultimately the rewards that came with it all.
Now many people see welfare as a way of life and sometimes earn more on that than they could actually working. Is it that all these people were hidden, working in the mines and doing the manual work? Then when Labour closed down the majority of the mines they had nowhere else to go?
When exactly did this rot set in and why does Labour think its good to make them think that if they dont succeed in life, its ok as they will get everything they can dream of for free? It promotes the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation to know no better and the UK suffers as a whole.
Most people work, from the person sweeping the yard, to the CEO of a large corporation so where is the threshold for someone who calls themselves `someone who `works'?
The benefits system was introduced as a safety net for those who genuinely could not work for a variety of reasons, not as a lifestyle choice for many, who can work but choose not to (not least because they can often get more on benefits, than they ever could earn on the basis of their level of skills, intelligence, and poor (or non existent) work ethic.
It’s a sad reflection on the intelligence of society that previous governments have bribed the electorate with their own money. Now they are borrowing money to bribe the electorate with their children’s and grandchildren’s money and still the public lap it up.
If I was to say to someone directly, “vote for me and I’ll give you £5000. By the way, I’ve taken out a £5k loan in your child’s name that they’ll have to pay back in the future, plus interest….” I suspect that they may actually question my actions and consider their voting options.
If I was to say to someone directly, “vote for me and I’ll give you £5000. By the way, I’ve taken out a £5k loan in your child’s name that they’ll have to pay back in the future, plus interest….” I suspect that they may actually question my actions and consider their voting options.
I wonder how many people in the country who are dumb enough to vote for labour, simply do so, because they `labour' at their place of work?
Although I am not that into politics, nor even that bright myself, even as a child I seemed to gain a sense, that those who voted labour were essentially not the sharpest tools in the box, If they were bright, I assumed they generally got better jobs and would therefore see the truth of what labour really were, and place their vote elsewhere.
Although I am not that into politics, nor even that bright myself, even as a child I seemed to gain a sense, that those who voted labour were essentially not the sharpest tools in the box, If they were bright, I assumed they generally got better jobs and would therefore see the truth of what labour really were, and place their vote elsewhere.
Cobnapint said:
A lot of people are scared to display any form of agreement with what Farage has to say, even though they may be on the inside.
That's a very sad reflection of our society of freedom of speech and expression that we are SUPPOSED to live in today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sno1TpCLj6AThat's a very sad reflection of our society of freedom of speech and expression that we are SUPPOSED to live in today.
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