Ed Miliband

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jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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NicD said:
while not disagreeing, it makes a change from the rude tt of an interviewer doing that.
I think the interviewers should be there to goad the politicos into missing a step (within reason). But there are good ones and bad ones. And I think that when they divert, as did Miliband today, then they are pinned down on the issue and not allowed to deviate.

NicD

3,281 posts

257 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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jmorgan said:
I think the interviewers should be there to goad the politicos into missing a step (within reason). But there are good ones and bad ones. And I think that when they divert, as did Miliband today, then they are pinned down on the issue and not allowed to deviate.
there you go, I disagree.

rohrl

8,738 posts

145 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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A Conservative Party council candidate in Derby has said she would never support “the Jew” in an apparent reference to Ed Miliband.

http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/exclusive-tory-council...

There should not be any room for anti-semitism in British politics.

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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rohrl said:
A Conservative Party council candidate in Derby has said she would never support “the Jew” in an apparent reference to Ed Miliband.
http://www.jewishnews.co.uk/exclusive-tory-council...
There should not be any room for anti-semitism in British politics.
Nobody with any sense would vote for Miliband irrespective of his race, in fact the biggest problem with him, is what is between his ears, his physical/racial makeup is the least of our countries worries.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Cheese Mechanic said:
Nobody with any sense would vote for Miliband irrespective of his race, in fact the biggest problem with him is what is between his ears, his physical/racial makeup is the least of our countries worries.
Besides, it's not as if the Conservative party is a "paragon of Aryan purity", is it? What a stupid person.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

242 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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davepoth said:
Besides, it's not as if the Conservative party is a "paragon of Aryan purity", is it? What a stupid person.
I suspect 'Aryan purity' is not a big concern for Gulzabeen Asfar, and that party politics are not the primary driver for her remark.

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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davepoth said:
Besides, it's not as if the Conservative party is a "paragon of Aryan purity", is it? What a stupid person.
Not sure what to make of that, having said that, haste sometimes gives the wrong message, there is part of the sentance where "is Irrelevant and" should have been written by self.


johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Justayellowbadge said:
I suspect 'Aryan purity' is not a big concern for Gulzabeen Asfar, and that party politics are not the primary driver for her remark.
She did put LOL and that is the international symbol of denial of wrong doing.
I thought he was an atheist who followed the Jewish religion ?.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
Justayellowbadge said:
I suspect 'Aryan purity' is not a big concern for Gulzabeen Asfar, and that party politics are not the primary driver for her remark.
She did put LOL and that is the international symbol of denial of wrong doing.
I thought he was an atheist who followed the Jewish religion ?.
She's got it wrong - you have to start the sentence with "I'm not being racist, but...".


Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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davepoth said:
She's got it wrong - you have to start the sentence with "I'm not being racist, but...".
Are you a Miliband voter?

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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mph1977 said:
they are not out of touch with the rental market , there are plenty of landlords / agents who do arbitrarily end tenancies , enforce 'renewal fees' on ASTs despite the flexibily both ways going to a stat periodic tenancy brings once you have that 6 / 12 months etc experience ...

as for getting rid of tenants in certain sectors of renting the mere threat of the end of a AST will get people looking to move as they know no better or are afraid of te ACCJ and the costs the landlord will impose on them for 'eviction'
What involvement do you currently have with the rental market? Are you talking from a position of knowledge?

As a LL, I have good, long-term tenants who are happy with reasonable rents, no hassle in either direction and security of tenure. I don't need that pratt EM causing problems where none currently exist.

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Cheese Mechanic said:
davepoth said:
She's got it wrong - you have to start the sentence with "I'm not being racist, but...".
Are you a Miliband voter?
Good God no. Whatever gave you that idea?

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

169 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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davepoth said:
Good God no. Whatever gave you that idea?
Ok, perhaps a misreading. Not my day today!

98elise

26,627 posts

161 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Rovinghawk said:
mph1977 said:
they are not out of touch with the rental market , there are plenty of landlords / agents who do arbitrarily end tenancies , enforce 'renewal fees' on ASTs despite the flexibily both ways going to a stat periodic tenancy brings once you have that 6 / 12 months etc experience ...

as for getting rid of tenants in certain sectors of renting the mere threat of the end of a AST will get people looking to move as they know no better or are afraid of te ACCJ and the costs the landlord will impose on them for 'eviction'
What involvement do you currently have with the rental market? Are you talking from a position of knowledge?

As a LL, I have good, long-term tenants who are happy with reasonable rents, no hassle in either direction and security of tenure. I don't need that pratt EM causing problems where none currently exist.
Same here. A tenant that pays the rent and wants to stay for years is a landlords dream. I reward that with not raising rents. My longest tenant has just going into their 5th year with no rent rise.

That will have to change under Millibands plans. Unfortunately that will mean a 100-150pcm increase, and year on year indexed rises.

Mario149

7,758 posts

178 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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98elise said:
Even more interesting is that I don't normaly raise the rents in my BTL's for good tenants. Obviosly at the moment I'm free to but I don't as I would rather keep long term tenants

If Labour bring in % caps then I'll need to bring my rents up to market rates before the caps take effect. If I don't then I'm shooting myself in the foot for any future rises.

Some of my tenants are going to see large rises, then year on year rises.
Possible daft question but:

I have a flat that I started renting out last Sept, 2 year tenancy agreement, break after 6 months and I think the tenants are on 3 months notice now. They are good tenants so far, they could move in immediately etc and wanted the place for min 2 years so I gave them a bit of a discount, probably about a 5-7% less than I could have got. This rental cap thing is a bit of a concern so how would I go about bringing the rent up to market rates? Would I have to give them notice on the current tenancy saying that I'd be happy to do them another contract at current rent + 5%? I really don't want to do that to them as I'd feel like a bd, but I'm kinda not seeing an option if I don't want to screw myself frown Same for my gf incidentally, she rents a flat out as well and it's also a little "under rented" as it were.

audidoody

8,597 posts

256 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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The thing that Miliband doesn't understand is that being a Landlord is not a compulsory occupation. Property is an investment. And, like any other investment, once it ceases to become attractive people remove it from their portfolios.

Thus property investors will just exit the sector. Result? A crash in the supply of rented accommodation. And even those who still want to get into BTL will be thwarted by a reduction in finance availability as lenders also run for the exits as they envision a three-year battle for the LL to evict non-paying tenants.

And let's not forget the net reduction in stamp duty revenue to the Treasury from falling transaction levels.

"But" (I hear you say). "That will mean a collapse in house prices. Which is surely a good thing?"

Yes it is. for cash buyers. Anyone seeking a mortgage will have to stump up a deposit North of 25 per cent as lenders reduce their exposure on a falling asset class.

So more people forced into renting. Whoops.

Good old Milly. He really is the Patron Saint of Unintended Consequences.


bitchstewie

51,280 posts

210 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Yes but they're all just rich people taking advantage of ordinary working people - don't forget that audiodoody.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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bhstewie said:
Yes but they're all just rich people taking advantage of ordinary working people - don't forget that audiodoody.
you got it wrong buddy you forgot they are hard working families.

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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98elise said:
A tenant that pays the rent and wants to stay for years is a landlords dream. I reward that with not raising rents. My longest tenant has just going into their 5th year with no rent rise.
I do 'stay as long as you like if all's well'; no rent increase on first anniversary, inflation or thereabouts after that. My longest is just coming up 6 years.

Today I dropped decorating materials to one tenant & tomorrow I drop gardening stuff to another.

Why must politicians (especially socialists) interfere with stuff that's not a problem & thereby make one?



mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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Rovinghawk said:
98elise said:
A tenant that pays the rent and wants to stay for years is a landlords dream. I reward that with not raising rents. My longest tenant has just going into their 5th year with no rent rise.
I do 'stay as long as you like if all's well'; no rent increase on first anniversary, inflation or thereabouts after that. My longest is just coming up 6 years.

Today I dropped decorating materials to one tenant & tomorrow I drop gardening stuff to another.

Why must politicians (especially socialists) interfere with stuff that's not a problem & thereby make one?
becasue you are part of a tiny minority of landlords who aren;t either out to make a profit or an amateur BTL property tycoons trying to cover the mortgsge and get their promised second income ...