Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

[Welshbeef]

So a week to go now until polls open.


Going to be a very interesting week

[Edinburger]

S13_Alan said:

There's actually a YES shop on Maryhill road, complete with flags and all.... I couldn't believe it when I seen it. Managed to read some of the stuff in the window when I was stopped in traffic, obviously it's the same utter nonsense you might expect.

I've seen a few of the Yes shops in different towns I've driven through. Fair play to them. Can't argue that the Yes side is a proper public-focused political campaign.

[Edinburger]

Rollin said:

So RBS and Lloyds rumoured to be moving headquarters south following a yes vote.
No need to worry though eh yessers?

You do realise that this (and the Standard Life comment) doesn't mean that thousands of jobs will move?

They're international business and will have regulatory and shareholder pressures.

[Broccers]

Edinburger said:

Rollin said:

So RBS and Lloyds rumoured to be moving headquarters south following a yes vote.
No need to worry though eh yessers?

You do realise that this (and the Standard Life comment) doesn't mean that thousands of jobs will move?

They're international business and will have regulatory and shareholder pressures.

Reckon? Think you'll find out different if the case arises.

[e600]

I am at a loss to understand why we would want to keep Scotland in the UK, having read all the positives for us if they leave. Perhaps that's why they put Darling in charge of the No campaign .

On balance, other than the immediate turbulence what are the negatives for UK minus Scotland

[PRTVR]

Edinburger said:

Rollin said:

So RBS and Lloyds rumoured to be moving headquarters south following a yes vote.
No need to worry though eh yessers?

You do realise that this (and the Standard Life comment) doesn't mean that thousands of jobs will move?

They're international business and will have regulatory and shareholder pressures.

The International business as you call it will be most of what they do, doing business with the rest of the UK will become International, I will be pulling all my money out of any Scottish financial company if they say YES, why take the risk? we saw what happened to Iceland.

[Edinburger]

Troubleatmill said:

Clydesdale bank just announced they will leave Scotland in case of a Yes vote.


Jings, crivvens and help me boab!

Edited by Troubleatmill on Wednesday 10th September 23:22

Really? Got a source for that?

You do know they're owned by National Australia Bank, yes?

[Welshbeef]

Edinburger said:

You do realise that this (and the Standard Life comment) doesn't mean that thousands of jobs will move?

They're international business and will have regulatory and shareholder pressures.

Who is the majority shareholder.. One is paying dole as well as salaries so if its a yes less dole to be paid out and a massive boost to deprived areas.

You may be right but if you're livelihood depended on it would you risk it? Maybe however many would not and that many could be enough to win a No vote forever.




Also you do realise if its a no expect 30+ years until next time and by then oil will be pretty much gone so the "bonus" as SNP call it while anyone of any common sense realise its part of the tax revenues needed not a Brucie bonus on top which is what it should be suddenly you realise oh dear game over.

[Troubleatmill]

Edinburger said:

Troubleatmill said:

Clydesdale bank just announced they will leave Scotland in case of a Yes vote.


Jings, crivvens and help me boab!

Edited by Troubleatmill on Wednesday 10th September 23:22

Really? Got a source for that?

You do know they're owned by National Australia Bank, yes?

Source quoted on last page. You can watch it yourself.
Yes. Or course I know.
But for a bank to decide to pull out of a country - it must be because of all the prosperity being promised by YES. Right?

Edited by Troubleatmill on Thursday 11th September 07:22

[anonymous-user]

e600 said:

I am at a loss to understand why we would want to keep Scotland in the UK, having read all the positives for us if they leave. Perhaps that's why they put Darling in charge of the No campaign .

On balance, other than the immediate turbulence what are the negatives for UK minus Scotland

Massively reduced land mass and coastal waters, reduced world influence and status, less natural resources, reduced defence capability, less success in the Olympics.

[PRTVR]

Troubleatmill said:

Edinburger said:

Troubleatmill said:

Clydesdale bank just announced they will leave Scotland in case of a Yes vote.


Jings, crivvens and help me boab!

Edited by Troubleatmill on Wednesday 10th September 23:22

Really? Got a source for that?

You do know they're owned by National Australia Bank, yes?

Source quoted on last page. You can watch it yourself.
Yes. Or course I know.
But for a bank to decide to pl out of a country - it must be because of all the prosperity being promised by YES. Right?

Anybody here get the feeling Edinburger has sent in his postal vote and the reality is starting to dawn on him.

[anonymous-user]

PLEASEDELETE said:

RBS quit plan now on bbc 'breaking' newsreel.

Guess the long-awaited Plan B is a return to the barter system in Scotland.

Sorry if it's already been posted, but confirmed now, RBS leaving in event of a Yes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29151798

[HenryJM]

Anyone Scottish who isn't ashamed of the SNP must be highly gullible. Including, for example, the NHS - run by Scotland for many years and somehow it's a reason for independence.

They should be ashamed of their behaviour, trying to win a referendum by lying to the electorate.

[Einion Yrth]

HenryJM said:

Anyone Scottish who isn't ashamed of the SNP must be highly gullible. Including, for example, the NHS - run by Scotland for many years and somehow it's a reason for independence.

They should be ashamed of their behaviour, trying to win a referendum by lying to the electorate.

They're politicians; lying to the electorate is what they do.

[HenryJM]

Einion Yrth said:

HenryJM said:

Anyone Scottish who isn't ashamed of the SNP must be highly gullible. Including, for example, the NHS - run by Scotland for many years and somehow it's a reason for independence.

They should be ashamed of their behaviour, trying to win a referendum by lying to the electorate.

They're politicians; lying to the electorate is what they do.

Well, is it? I suspect that on a UK level they would get ripped apart for such stupidity. Of course the lack of a decent No campaign is one of the problems, nobody capable of standing up and pointing out the sheer stupidity and falsehood of the SNP case.

[Munter]

They just had a Yes guy on the BBC saying Scotland has suffered under a government they didn't elect.

Suffered because they have a sub base and a single Tory MP apparently.

I've yet to see any evidence of suffering in scotland myself. They ask for things and the rest of the union go's, "Yeah ok here you go". I see plenty of that. I'm not 100% convinced that's suffering.

[Edinburger]

PRTVR said:

Troubleatmill said:

Edinburger said:

Troubleatmill said:

Clydesdale bank just announced they will leave Scotland in case of a Yes vote.


Jings, crivvens and help me boab!

Edited by Troubleatmill on Wednesday 10th September 23:22

Really? Got a source for that?

You do know they're owned by National Australia Bank, yes?

Source quoted on last page. You can watch it yourself.
Yes. Or course I know.
But for a bank to decide to pl out of a country - it must be because of all the prosperity being promised by YES. Right?

Anybody here get the feeling Edinburger has sent in his postal vote and the reality is starting to dawn on him.

I'm not a postal vote!

[Welshbeef]

Munter said:

They just had a Yes guy on the BBC saying Scotland has suffered under a government they didn't elect.

Suffered because they have a sub base and a single Tory MP apparently.

I've yet to see any evidence of suffering in scotland myself. They ask for things and the rest of the union go's, "Yeah ok here you go". I see plenty of that. I'm not 100% convinced that's suffering.

Oh silly its because they have not got the govt they voted for - hold on no one did its a coalition and due to Scotland moving to PR for next Scottish elections then there is unlikely to be a one party winning elections

[Edinburger]

Troubleatmill said:

Edinburger said:

Troubleatmill said:

Clydesdale bank just announced they will leave Scotland in case of a Yes vote.


Jings, crivvens and help me boab!

Edited by Troubleatmill on Wednesday 10th September 23:22

Really? Got a source for that?

You do know they're owned by National Australia Bank, yes?

Source quoted on last page. You can watch it yourself.
Yes. Or course I know.
But for a bank to decide to pull out of a country - it must be because of all the prosperity being promised by YES. Right?

Edited by Troubleatmill on Thursday 11th September 07:22

There's been no stock market announcement that I've seen, and we need to understand what - if anything - is being relocated. I'd doubt if it's branches and centralised offices. They're a strong company in north and south England and already have HO functions in London. Or are they just registering as an English company?

[Edinburger]

e600 said:

I am at a loss to understand why we would want to keep Scotland in the UK, having read all the positives for us if they leave. Perhaps that's why they put Darling in charge of the No campaign .

On balance, other than the immediate turbulence what are the negatives for UK minus Scotland

"I am at a loss to understand why we would want to keep Scotland in the UK"

I suspect you don't understand this referendum.