Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
simoid said:
I don't suppose there's any point in asking for evidence of these crimes to be posted.
You mean you aren't convinced by the blurry video showing some bloke, somewhere, writing something with a pen (or pencil) on what looks like a piece of paper that happens to be the same colour as a ballot paper.................as clear evidence for vote rigging against Yes. 
Not really. Each incident was somehow missed while it occurred by the legions of crack SNP observers at each polling station, only to be pointed out on video once it was apparent the vote was lost. Each has been looked at and addressed by the election authorities, and explained.
The only people not accepting the perfectly logical and rational explanation for each occurrence are the people who cannot, and will not accept the result was not the one they wanted.
As such, there's no point engaging with them any more.
The only people not accepting the perfectly logical and rational explanation for each occurrence are the people who cannot, and will not accept the result was not the one they wanted.
As such, there's no point engaging with them any more.
Gaspode said:
McWigglebum4th said:
So why did the YES officials who were there at the time not pick them up?
Incompetence or were they under the pay of the English?
Neither looks good for our future
Incompetence or were they under the pay of the English?
Neither looks good for our future
I'd be very interested in understanding how all the Yes officials were fooled. What are the possibilities?1. They were too stupid to see what was happening under their very eyes
2. They were bribed ( all of them)
3. They were threatened (all of them) and are too scared to come forward
4. It didn't happen
However
Number 1 looks quite likely also based on observing YES voters online
Walford said:
Dont understand how its going to work giving scotland the powers to change taxation and keeping the barnet formula, so they lower taxes, and keep getting money from westminster?
No they get to choose whether to tax and spend more or less than we do in the rest of the UK.I mean obviously they really want to tax less and spent more, which is the bit that they couldn't do. Tax more, spend more or tax less and spend less.
McWigglebum4th said:
Number 1 looks quite likely also based on observing YES voters online
Although I wouldn't put 2 past most of them either - based on the selfish money grab that pretty much summed up the Yes campaign......"bought and sold for English gold".........Rabbie Burns may have been onto something there
xjsdriver said:
More and more people are speaking out with evidence (clear, photographic evidence) of wrong doing from officials meant to be totally beyond reproach where impartiality is concerned. You think it's all over - not by a long chalk it's not.
You wouldn't happen to have any links. I thought they might be plastered all over the "we are the 45%" Facebook page - so I went and looked - but that group seem strangely silent in light of all of this apparent new evidence.
Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 23 September 08:47
Walford said:
Dont understand how its going to work giving scotland the powers to change taxation and keeping the barnet formula, so they lower taxes, and keep getting money from westminster?
I think the proposal is that Scotland will not be able to have a lower rate of tax than the rest of the UK, but it can have higher tax (to pay for all the promised and existing freebies, and also to frighten off all the Tories).For all the Snp bashing on here, they have been (so far) the best governt we have had in Scotland in terms of what they achieved. They have been able to provide, through good choices made in using their pocket money wisely, good services for the Scottish people. Services that rUK bleat about but they too could have same said services of the government choose to provide it. Would we have had Homecoming Scotland events and other events promoting Scotland under the other main parties in Scotland? Probably not, so the Snp so far has given Scotland a voice in the cacophony of back slapping and back stabbing world of uk politics.
As for Scotland being a sideshow now, quite possibly, but just wait for when more of said unionist promises are broken time and time again, the next General Election will be very different. All the 'scaremongering Snp' stories seem to be proving right as well. The people of Scotland were duped by a mad dash at the end and pensioners (we have an ageing population mind) scared re. Pensions and services, those who are not on t'internet and have to rely on biased media. It really is a poor do.
I challenge anyone to come back at me and provide evidence that the promises are and will be upheld.
As for Scotland being a sideshow now, quite possibly, but just wait for when more of said unionist promises are broken time and time again, the next General Election will be very different. All the 'scaremongering Snp' stories seem to be proving right as well. The people of Scotland were duped by a mad dash at the end and pensioners (we have an ageing population mind) scared re. Pensions and services, those who are not on t'internet and have to rely on biased media. It really is a poor do.
I challenge anyone to come back at me and provide evidence that the promises are and will be upheld.
arp1 said:
For all the Snp bashing on here, they have been (so far) the best governt we have had in Scotland in terms of what they achieved. They have been able to provide, through good choices made in using their pocket money wisely, good services for the Scottish people. Services that rUK bleat about but they too could have same said services of the government choose to provide it. Would we have had Homecoming Scotland events and other events promoting Scotland under the other main parties in Scotland? Probably not, so the Snp so far has given Scotland a voice in the cacophony of back slapping and back stabbing world of uk politics.
As for Scotland being a sideshow now, quite possibly, but just wait for when more of said unionist promises are broken time and time again, the next General Election will be very different. All the 'scaremongering Snp' stories seem to be proving right as well. The people of Scotland were duped by a mad dash at the end and pensioners (we have an ageing population mind) scared re. Pensions and services, those who are not on t'internet and have to rely on biased media. It really is a poor do.
I challenge anyone to come back at me and provide evidence that the promises are and will be upheld.
As for Scotland being a sideshow now, quite possibly, but just wait for when more of said unionist promises are broken time and time again, the next General Election will be very different. All the 'scaremongering Snp' stories seem to be proving right as well. The people of Scotland were duped by a mad dash at the end and pensioners (we have an ageing population mind) scared re. Pensions and services, those who are not on t'internet and have to rely on biased media. It really is a poor do.
I challenge anyone to come back at me and provide evidence that the promises are and will be upheld.
arp1 said:
Not only will I troll this thread. I'll ram home the hook by issuing a challenge. That'll get em
Moonhawk said:
arp1 said:
I challenge anyone to come back at me and provide evidence that the promises are and will be upheld.
The promise was more powers.......Westminster is working on putting those together.Sounds like the promise is in the process of being delivered.
arp1 said:
The day after (19th)a timetable of further powers was supposed to be published as a motion before uk parliament and all parties supporting this. Has that happened?
Did they commit to actually publish the timetable (in detail) - or just commit to publishing a timetable. Such things do take a bit of time you know:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
"a resolution has been signed by David Cameron, Nick Clegg, Ed Miliband and Mr Brown committing to a timetable of action including draft legislation for a new Scotland Bill by the end of January. The motion will be placed in the House of Commons on Monday."
civil servants were already at work drawing up a timetable and detailed plans so that a "command paper" setting out new powers can be published by the end of October.
Sounds to me like its very much a work in progress.
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