Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
Moonhawk said:
arp1 said:
I challenge anyone to come back at me and provide evidence that the promises are and will be upheld.
The promise was more powers.......Westminster is working on putting those together.Sounds like the promise is in the process of being delivered.
arp1 said:
The day after (19th)a timetable of further powers was supposed to be published as a motion before uk parliament and all parties supporting this. Has that happened?
Did they commit to actually publish the timetable (in detail) - or just commit to publishing a timetable. Such things do take a bit of time you know:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
"a resolution has been signed by David Cameron, Nick Clegg, Ed Miliband and Mr Brown committing to a timetable of action including draft legislation for a new Scotland Bill by the end of January. The motion will be placed in the House of Commons on Monday."
civil servants were already at work drawing up a timetable and detailed plans so that a "command paper" setting out new powers can be published by the end of October.
Sounds to me like its very much a work in progress.
Evidence for something that will happen in the future?
You mean, like the written and spoken evidence (from Reichsfuhrer Salmond) that Yessirs would accept the democratically decided, full, final and settled will of the Scottish people?
45ers make me laugh. Ma told her (livid, workshy) Bell's Hill brother and his clan that 45 is clearly the upper limit IQ required for entry.
You mean, like the written and spoken evidence (from Reichsfuhrer Salmond) that Yessirs would accept the democratically decided, full, final and settled will of the Scottish people?
45ers make me laugh. Ma told her (livid, workshy) Bell's Hill brother and his clan that 45 is clearly the upper limit IQ required for entry.
arp1 said:
The day after (19th)a timetable of further powers was supposed to be published as a motion before uk parliament and all parties supporting this. Has that happened?
Are you for real? You're criticising them because they haven't given you a proposal immediately? Despite the SNP not even having a solution to things like currency, or the EU, etc?Greg66 said:
arp1 said:
The people of Scotland were duped
Are you saying that the people of Scotland are stupid and gullible? Or just that the majority of people in Scotland are stupid and gullible?
Also - you can only claim people have been duped if the promise of new powers doesn't materialise. From all of the evidence we have seen so far - it is clear that Scotland will be getting more power as a result of this - and so if people voted No on the back of that promise - then they are getting exactly what they voted for.......
arp1 said:
The people of Scotland were duped by a mad dash at the end and pensioners (we have an ageing population mind) scared re. Pensions and services, those who are not on t'internet and have to rely on biased media. It really is a poor do.
I challenge anyone to come back at me and provide evidence that the promises are and will be upheld.
oh wise and ever ever ever so clever personI challenge anyone to come back at me and provide evidence that the promises are and will be upheld.
Why was support for a NO higher before westminster promised anything?
Oakey said:
Are you for real? You're criticising them because they haven't given you a proposal immediately? Despite the SNP not even having a solution to things like currency, or the EU, etc?
Just more examples of nationalist hypocrisy.They cry that the BBC etc have lied/mislead (nobody seems to be posting what these lies etc are though) - yet Salmond has been shown to have demonstrably lied and mislead voters over things like "talking to the EU about membership" - but the nationalists don't bat an eyelid.
They cry about the possibility of promises being broken, despite clear evidence that they are in fact going to be delivered - yet Salmond made promises he didn't have the power, let alone the capability to deliver - but the nationalists don't bat an eyelid.
It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.
arp1 said:
All I have seen so far is squabbling and parties not agreeing to everything, especially with the 'England thing', and it seems to me that if the 'England thing' isn't sorted out, neither will the Scottish promises be fulfilled.
Politicians disagree on how to implement policy - more at 11. In other news - bears s#it in woods.I disagree about the "England thing". The parties differ because the Tories wan't any new policy for England to be delivered at the same time as the policy for Scotland - whereas Labour disagree. This may have the effect of delaying the policy for Scotland - but I don't see how it affects the overall outcome in terms of what powers Scotland will get.
barryrs said:
I suspect the Yes voters are the most likely culprits in this respect and as such arent making much noise about it.
How cynical of you - you mean Yessers would only highlight possible vote fraud where it appeared to work against them 
Surely in the interests of fairness and democracy - they would be duty bound to report any evidence or suspicions of vote rigging/fraud, regardless of who was carrying it out......no?
Just seen this posted on somebodies Facebook page 
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1015464912239...
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1015464912239...
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