Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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HenryJM said:
We are faced with a decision where the majority of Scots would rather it stays as it is than went to independence. So leaving it as it is seems like first choice.
Still no comment from any Pro Yes about this extra EU tax - will they increase income tax to pay for it or cut NHS

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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HenryJM said:
We are faced with a decision where the majority of Scots would rather it stays as it is than went to independence. So leaving it as it is seems like first choice.
Yes but it's not being left as it is!

arp1

583 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Welshbeef said:
HenryJM said:
We are faced with a decision where the majority of Scots would rather it stays as it is than went to independence. So leaving it as it is seems like first choice.
Still no comment from any Pro Yes about this extra EU tax - will they increase income tax to pay for it or cut NHS
We will have to deal with it like anything else, from the pocket money given to us by westminister... Somehow we will have to pay for it...

Ps, if you earn more, don't you generally pay more in tax?

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Edinburger said:
HenryJM said:
We are faced with a decision where the majority of Scots would rather it stays as it is than went to independence. So leaving it as it is seems like first choice.
Yes but it's not being left as it is!
Isn't that what you campaigned [without answering any questions btw] for in the previous volumes.

And now your back with exactly the same posting style and out to wind people up like you did before.

loser apt indeed.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Funk said:
If it ends up at DevoMax then TBF should be removed.
TBF?

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Mojocvh said:
Isn't that what you campaigned [without answering any questions btw] for in the previous volumes.

And now your back with exactly the same posting style and out to wind people up like you did before.

loser apt indeed.
Wrong on both accounts rolleyes

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Edinburger said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the polls a few years ago suggest a significant majority win for devo max?

Cameron then removed that option under the Edinburgh Agreement and now we're faced with an outcome which was never on the table.
Deal with it...

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
Deal with it...
Don't you worry your wee self - I've dealt with and am happy with the result.

The question now is: why are we getting more powers when we didn't vote for them?

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Edinburger said:
Funk said:
If it ends up at DevoMax then TBF should be removed.
TBF?
Good to see you've forgotten about 'The Barnett Formula' already burger.

It cannot survive in UK politics after what was said during the neverendum, no matter what was muttered during the 'vow'.







McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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arp1 said:
We will have to deal with it like anything else, from the pocket money given to us by westminister... Somehow we will have to pay for it...

Ps, if you earn more, don't you generally pay more in tax?
You not left yet

As your flag offends you

Edited by McWigglebum4th on Saturday 25th October 17:49

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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arp1 said:
We will have to deal with it like anything else, from the pocket money given to us by westminister... Somehow we will have to pay for it...

Ps, if you earn more, don't you generally pay more in tax?
So unless the SNP raise taxes they would have to remove free Uni fees - its the same ball park figure
Or reduce spend on NHS
Or remove winter fuel allowance


Actually SNP wants to reverse the spare bedroom allowance reduction (bedroom tax) so what else will they cut or raise taxes to pay for these additional items?


Hmmm interesting

arp1

583 posts

127 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Be'jaizus, you really are looking to kick our government when they have been the most decent one we have had so far! I, like yourself, am not in government to make said decisions so all you armchair economists just chew the fat and We'l see what happens...

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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///ajd said:
Good to see you've forgotten about 'The Barnett Formula' already burger.

It cannot survive in UK politics after what was said during the neverendum, no matter what was muttered during the 'vow'.




Course it can.

8% of the UK population and 30% of the UK's land mass.

Do the maths.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
You not left yet

As your flag offends you
Why would I leave?

You're the one who went on and on and on and on. And on again. About leaving. Repeatedly.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Welshbeef said:
So unless the SNP raise taxes they would have to remove free Uni fees - its the same ball park figure
Or reduce spend on NHS
Or remove winter fuel allowance


Actually SNP wants to reverse the spare bedroom allowance reduction (bedroom tax) so what else will they cut or raise taxes to pay for these additional items?


Hmmm interesting
True. And true of all governments.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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arp1 said:
Be'jaizus, you really are looking to kick our government when they have been the most decent one we have had so far! I, like yourself, am not in government to make said decisions so all you armchair economists just chew the fat and We'l see what happens...
Not sure who/what that's aimed at?

Funk

26,270 posts

209 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Edinburger said:
///ajd said:
Good to see you've forgotten about 'The Barnett Formula' already burger.

It cannot survive in UK politics after what was said during the neverendum, no matter what was muttered during the 'vow'.




Course it can.

8% of the UK population and 30% of the UK's land mass.

Do the maths.
Which will only work if all the taxes raised and financial decisions taken are administered at a NATIONAL level.

Scotland cannot have its cake and eat it. Either it wants the benefits of financial support and the controls and conditions that come with it or it doesn't.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Funk said:
Which will only work if all the taxes raised and financial decisions taken are administered at a NATIONAL level.

Scotland cannot have its cake and eat it. Either it wants the benefits of financial support and the controls and conditions that come with it or it doesn't.
Which flies in the face of the views of many commentators.

Tell me: why should some taxes be devolved and others managed centrally?

When I'm on my laptop I'll post an interesting analysis of the different views of each party. Difficult to see how they'll reach consensus.

///ajd

8,964 posts

206 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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Edinburger said:
///ajd said:
Good to see you've forgotten about 'The Barnett Formula' already burger.

It cannot survive in UK politics after what was said during the neverendum, no matter what was muttered during the 'vow'.
Course it can.

8% of the UK population and 30% of the UK's land mass.

Do the maths.
There is no link between free university for millionaires and having lots of mountains.

30% of land mass is not a justification for free university spending.

It just suggests the SG are spending the extra money allocated on luxuries, not on essentials.

Enough!

Bye bye TBF. Rest in peace.





Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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///ajd said:
There is no link between free university for millionaires and having lots of mountains.

30% of land mass is not a justification for free university spending.

It just suggests the SG are spending the extra money allocated on luxuries, not on essentials.

Enough!

Bye bye TBF. Rest in peace.
I, and others, have repeatedly explained the "free university" thing.

You either don't understand it or don't want to understand it.

Can't help you in that case.
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