Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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simoid said:
I'm guessing the total number of English students at Scottish unis, multiplied by their annual fee, is £130,000,000.
IIRC from one of the debates/TV discussions its £400m

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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And the next interesting development is: cross-party Scottish home rule campaign to be launched.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

208 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Edinburger said:
And the next interesting development is: cross-party Scottish home rule campaign to be launched.
Devolution was the most stupid thing to do. The referendum should have been 'yes leave, and you're on your own', or 'no stay and scrap the Scottish parliament'. Either is preferable to never ending whining and moaning for more powers.

barryrs

4,391 posts

223 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Rick_1138

3,682 posts

178 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Did laugh at the radio news yesterday where apparently if the referendum was run today,the Yes camp would have won.

So what does that have to do with the colour blue. What utter shoite, its just news bait to get the nats worked up again.

Please god don't let the SNp win another majority in 2016.

I'll take Labour, I wont mind!

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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As many have predicted for a while, the SNP only wanted a referendum to stir up their own support. Clearly it's worked, they're now more popular according to the polls and as an added bonus they've managed to brainwash a large number of their supporters into ignoring any criticism against them.

Scary times for our democracy.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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The only promise the YES campaign can possibly deliver on is the promise that this was a once in a lifetime chance


So not even 7 weeks later and we have promises of another referendum ASAP





Remind me again who is the lying bds here?


Oh yeah it is the NO campaign as they promised to have new powers announced by burns night

Have we had burns night in the past 7 weeks?



I am sick of this

I wish the YES campaign had won which despite me losing everything i own i could of seen you s rot

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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simoid said:
As many have predicted for a while, the SNP only wanted a referendum to stir up their own support. Clearly it's worked, they're now more popular according to the polls and as an added bonus they've managed to brainwash a large number of their supporters into ignoring any criticism against them.

Scary times for our democracy.
Depends on how you look at it.

The SNP have engaged many, many more people with politics - is that a bad thing?

Politics are changing in lots of ways since the referendum and I don't think everything I see is a bad step.

rich1231

17,331 posts

260 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Edinburger said:
Depends on how you look at it.

The SNP have engaged many, many more people with politics - is that a bad thing?

Politics are changing in lots of ways since the referendum and I don't think everything I see is a bad step.
There are different types of politics. Nationalistic bks is not a positive step.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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rich1231 said:
Edinburger said:
Depends on how you look at it.

The SNP have engaged many, many more people with politics - is that a bad thing?

Politics are changing in lots of ways since the referendum and I don't think everything I see is a bad step.
There are different types of politics. Nationalistic bks is not a positive step.
That's highly debatable.

I'll expect to see a consistent view from you and others when I read your posts re. the EU referendum.

rich1231

17,331 posts

260 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Edinburger said:
That's highly debatable.

I'll expect to see a consistent view from you and others when I read your posts re. the EU referendum.
That's awesome, but I don't hold out any hope for a consistent view from you.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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rich1231 said:
Edinburger said:
That's highly debatable.

I'll expect to see a consistent view from you and others when I read your posts re. the EU referendum.
That's awesome, but I don't hold out any hope for a consistent view from you.
Ha ha ha - very good. rolleyes

Wombat3

12,165 posts

206 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Edinburger said:
simoid said:
As many have predicted for a while, the SNP only wanted a referendum to stir up their own support. Clearly it's worked, they're now more popular according to the polls and as an added bonus they've managed to brainwash a large number of their supporters into ignoring any criticism against them.

Scary times for our democracy.
Depends on how you look at it.

The SNP have engaged many, many more people with politics - is that a bad thing?

Politics are changing in lots of ways since the referendum and I don't think everything I see is a bad step.
On the basis that they have proven to be lying and deceitful s, its not a great thing that so many people are stupid enough to follow them.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Wombat3 said:
Edinburger said:
simoid said:
As many have predicted for a while, the SNP only wanted a referendum to stir up their own support. Clearly it's worked, they're now more popular according to the polls and as an added bonus they've managed to brainwash a large number of their supporters into ignoring any criticism against them.

Scary times for our democracy.
Depends on how you look at it.

The SNP have engaged many, many more people with politics - is that a bad thing?

Politics are changing in lots of ways since the referendum and I don't think everything I see is a bad step.
On the basis that they have proven to be lying and deceitful s, its not a great thing that so many people are stupid enough to follow them.
Show me any political party who've never been called "lying" and "deceitful"?

Wombat3

12,165 posts

206 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Edinburger said:
Wombat3 said:
Edinburger said:
simoid said:
As many have predicted for a while, the SNP only wanted a referendum to stir up their own support. Clearly it's worked, they're now more popular according to the polls and as an added bonus they've managed to brainwash a large number of their supporters into ignoring any criticism against them.

Scary times for our democracy.
Depends on how you look at it.

The SNP have engaged many, many more people with politics - is that a bad thing?

Politics are changing in lots of ways since the referendum and I don't think everything I see is a bad step.
On the basis that they have proven to be lying and deceitful s, its not a great thing that so many people are stupid enough to follow them.
Show me any political party who've never been called "lying" and "deceitful"?
Usual deflective rubbish from you

a) If true that's no reason for the SNP to follow suit - especially when they claim to be the "the new way" for Scotland

b) They have taken the practise to new extremes and new levels. I can't work out whether that's because they are so deluded that they actually believe half of the ste they come out with or whether they are just so arrogant and fking thick that they think nobody will realise what utter ste they come out with.

What is unarguably clear is that there is nastiness and bile just bubbling beneath the surface of practically everything that comes from the SNP

Utter s, the lot of them, I wouldn't cross the road to piss on them if they were on fire.




Edited by Wombat3 on Monday 3rd November 12:57

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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I think for this discussion to advance we need you to come off of the fence Wombat! :-)

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Wombat3 said:
Edinburger said:
Wombat3 said:
Edinburger said:
simoid said:
As many have predicted for a while, the SNP only wanted a referendum to stir up their own support. Clearly it's worked, they're now more popular according to the polls and as an added bonus they've managed to brainwash a large number of their supporters into ignoring any criticism against them.

Scary times for our democracy.
Depends on how you look at it.

The SNP have engaged many, many more people with politics - is that a bad thing?

Politics are changing in lots of ways since the referendum and I don't think everything I see is a bad step.
On the basis that they have proven to be lying and deceitful s, its not a great thing that so many people are stupid enough to follow them.
Show me any political party who've never been called "lying" and "deceitful"?
Usual deflective rubbish from you

a) If true that's no reason for the SNP you follow suit - especially when they claim to be the "the new way" for Scotland

b) They have taken the practise to new extremes and new levels. I can't work out whether that's because they are so deluded that they actually believe half of the ste they come out with or whether they are just so arrogant and fking thick that they think nobody will realise what utter ste they come out with.

What is unarguably clear is that there is nastiness and bile just bubbling beneath the surface of practically everything that comes from the SNP

Utter s, the lot of them, I wouldn't cross the road to piss on them if they were on fire.
Not sure why you think that was "deflective rubbish" but you didn't answer my question.

Anyway, I'm not familiar with most of what you said. Hey ho.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Axionknight said:
I think for this discussion to advance we need you to come off of the fence Wombat! :-)
laugh

Wombat3

12,165 posts

206 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Axionknight said:
I think for this discussion to advance we need you to come off of the fence Wombat! :-)
smile

Mean what you say, say what you mean.

(something the SNP might do well to learn from wink)

Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Wombat3 said:
Axionknight said:
I think for this discussion to advance we need you to come off of the fence Wombat! :-)
smile

Mean what you say, say what you mean.

(something the SNP might do well to learn from wink)
Even though they did deliver on most of their manifesto commitments in the previous Scottish government - and as a minority? Was it 84 of 94, I think?

Has any Westminster government ever came close to that?
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