Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

[McWigglebum4th]

M

Edinburger said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

Oh dear: Scotland's incoming first minister has said the Scottish Parliament should have the power to call any future independence referendum.

So let's have a think about this

The only thing we can measure the honesty of the SNP on is the one promise that it was a once in a lifetime vote.

So less then 2 months later they have ignored this promise


Remind me again why they are the only honest party going while the rest are lying Westminster scum.

That argument only exists in your warped mind

Oh I imagined them promising a once in a lifetime chance

I also imagined you constantly singing the praises of the SNP

[Welshbeef]

Edinburger said:

Welshbeef said:

Edinburger said:

Welshbeef said:

Edinburger said:

Oh dear: Scotland's incoming first minister has said the Scottish Parliament should have the power to call any future independence referendum.

Of course it cannot just imagine you could have a situation where one part of the a union is in net receipt from the other parts and let's say its a 275 years worth of net receipts then that one part finds a mountain of diamonds and think heck tell you what were all right jack we want to go solo -- oh but hold on that not how a union works is it and if any Scots or Irish or English or Welsh think that way they can happily leave our UK as an individual.

So you didn't read the article?

You didn't get my hidden message then....

Err... it wasn't hidden but it also wasn't relevant.

Nice of you to skip it by but yes its totally relevant.

[NoNeed]

Edinburger said:

Oh dear: Scotland's incoming first minister has said the Scottish Parliament should have the power to call any future independence referendum.

Her signature was on the referendum agreement that stated both sides would accept the result.

She should resign before she has the chance to cut further divisions.

[McWigglebum4th]

NoNeed said:

Edinburger said:

Oh dear: Scotland's incoming first minister has said the Scottish Parliament should have the power to call any future independence referendum.

Her signature was on the referendum agreement that stated both sides would accept the result.

She should resign before she has the chance to cut further divisions.

It didn't say for how long

They accepted the result and decided it was wrong 5 minutes later

They will stop at nothing to fk up scotlands economy so they can blame the english

[A.J.M]

This is getting embarrassing now.

Just stop already, the whining and tantrums are doing everyone no favours.

[General Price]

McWigglebum4th said:

M

Edinburger said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

Oh dear: Scotland's incoming first minister has said the Scottish Parliament should have the power to call any future independence referendum.

So let's have a think about this

The only thing we can measure the honesty of the SNP on is the one promise that it was a once in a lifetime vote.

So less then 2 months later they have ignored this promise


Remind me again why they are the only honest party going while the rest are lying Westminster scum.

That argument only exists in your warped mind

Oh I imagined them promising a once in a lifetime chance

Stupid boy.

Only once in a lifetime if there was a yes vote.Did you not read the white paper?

It was written on page 677,just after the bit about the money tree.

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

In my view, the SNP has delivered more for Scotland than any other party at Holyrood.

It's also my view that a credible alternative to the usual suspects is a good thing.

Well in my view, they've pursued a damaging policy of separation which was clearly never likely to succeed, and they are very clearly attempting to continue this damaging policy of separation against the wishes of the democratic majority.

Anything else is window dressing.

They are fundamentally a bad bunch.

[McWigglebum4th]

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

In my view, the SNP has delivered more for Scotland than any other party at Holyrood.

It's also my view that a credible alternative to the usual suspects is a good thing.

Well in my view, they've pursued a damaging policy of separation which was clearly never likely to succeed, and they are very clearly attempting to continue this damaging policy of separation against the wishes of the democratic majority.

Anything else is window dressing.

They are fundamentally a bad bunch.

And on que we have a little look at business for SNP scotland contribution to the smith commission which is looking at what powers scotland should have

http://chokkablog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/business-...

[McWigglebum4th]

and in other news

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-bus...

The scottish housing market shows a sudden upswing


It is almost as if anyone with any money and a brain bigger then a pea was waiting for something before splashing the cash


The SNP have damaged Scotland and will continue to damage scotland

They will happily destroy the place and blame the english sorry westminster


Ediburgh loves the SNP as he believes that everyone who surrounds him are retards and must be controlled by the state
basically a typical left wing halfwit

[Welshbeef]

Why do Pro Yes and SNP keep stating the UK was telling lies about powers - the outcome is the day after Burns night that hasn't happened yet unless I've missed something.

Also quite a few key SNP folk incl Salmond was saying similar BEFORE the commission had commenced.... How on earth can that be the case ?


Fair enough you could say that on the day following Burns night depending on the outcome but before it has even commenced is odd. Do the Scottish people see through this nonsense and have lots of the "45" finally twigged they are being played.

[Wombat3]

McWigglebum4th said:

and in other news

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-bus...

The scottish housing market shows a sudden upswing


It is almost as if anyone with any money and a brain bigger then a pea was waiting for something before splashing the cash


The SNP have damaged Scotland and will continue to damage scotland

They will happily destroy the place and blame the english sorry westminster


Ediburgh loves the SNP as he believes that everyone who surrounds him are retards and must be controlled by the state
basically a typical left wing halfwit

Rather a case of move now before the new SDLT rules come in in a few months time I think

http://www.independent.co.uk/property/scotlands-st...

10% on anything over £250K

[McWigglebum4th]

Wombat3 said:

Rather a case of move now before the new SDLT rules come in in a few months time I think

http://www.independent.co.uk/property/scotlands-st...

10% on anything over £250K

in defense of the communist party it doesn't work like the english system which is worse because it is english.

Under the system down south if a house sells for £250,001 you pay stamp duty on the £250,001

Under the scottish system you pay 10% on the £1 while you pay lower rate the amount from £250,000 to £135,000 with everything below £135,000 being tax free

I admit when i first heard of it i thought it was meaning 10% on everything

Which would not surprise me


But all property is theft anyway and if we voted YES then everyone would be housed by the state

Comrade

[simoid]

Wombat3 said:

Rather a case of move now before the new SDLT rules come in in a few months time I think

http://www.independent.co.uk/property/scotlands-st...

10% on anything over £250K

Stamp duty is cheaper under the planned system on houses under £340k-ish (which is the vast majority of sales) so it seems strange that people are moving now to avoid lower tax duty...

[Wombat3]

McWigglebum4th said:

Wombat3 said:

Rather a case of move now before the new SDLT rules come in in a few months time I think

http://www.independent.co.uk/property/scotlands-st...

10% on anything over £250K

in defense of the communist party it doesn't work like the english system which is worse because it is english.

Under the system down south if a house sells for £250,001 you pay stamp duty on the £250,001

Under the scottish system you pay 10% on the £1 while you pay lower rate the amount from £250,000 to £135,000 with everything below £135,000 being tax free

I admit when i first heard of it i thought it was meaning 10% on everything

Which would not surprise me


But all property is theft anyway and if we voted YES then everyone would be housed by the state

Comrade

£324K is the cutover point at which Swinney begins to shaft you - see table at the bottom of this page:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/mortgages/20... )

[simoid]

Meanwhile, in referendum news:

http://www.eastlothiancourier.com/news/roundup/art...

I think I saw that video. A 45er claiming the vote was rigged as she'd found loads of blank papers in a bin or something

[rich1231]

McWigglebum4th said:

Oh I imagined them promising a once in a lifetime chance

I also imagined you constantly singing the praises of the SNP

Someone in Scotland has probably died since the vote. That is how they can justify it.

[Vipers]

NoNeed said:

Edinburger said:

Oh dear: Scotland's incoming first minister has said the Scottish Parliament should have the power to call any future independence referendum.

Her signature was on the referendum agreement that stated both sides would accept the result.

She should resign before she has the chance to cut further divisions.

They wanted a referendum, they got one.

They lost.

Accept it and move on, Alex said he would accept it, now he's whinging.

[Wombat3]

Vipers said:

NoNeed said:

Edinburger said:

Oh dear: Scotland's incoming first minister has said the Scottish Parliament should have the power to call any future independence referendum.

Her signature was on the referendum agreement that stated both sides would accept the result.

She should resign before she has the chance to cut further divisions.

They wanted a referendum, they got one.

They lost.

Accept it and move on, Alex said he would accept it, now he's whinging.

They will never do that.

Part 2 of this sorry saga is when it could get very messy when we wake up on May 8th with Mini-Brain in Downing St courtesy of a Coalition (or just a confidence and supply agreement) with the 3rd largest party in the commons - which would be the SNP by the look of it.

That group led by one A Salmond who will be an MP and demand to be at the cabinet table (and probably deputy PM) and for which the price will be, yep, you've guessed it, another referendum - at least.

This could get very fking ugly if we are not careful.

[Edinburger]

" They thought it was all over... well it isn’t now"

Personally, I'm not liking this rhetoric. They need to put up, shut up, and move on.

[McWigglebum4th]

Edinburger said:

" They thought it was all over... well it isn’t now"

Personally, I'm not liking this rhetoric. They need to put up, shut up, and move on.

At last we agree on something

This is hugely damaging to Scotland