Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

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///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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[quote]The lessons the rUK could learn that by spending £10k per head in Scotland v £8k per head in England these things you speak of can be afforded. Now let's level the playing field everyone gets what £8.5k per head?
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There is potentially an interesting irony here. There are reasonable geographic reasons that Scotland gets more per head, but sadly for Scots this subtlety might get lost in the rhetoric.

So, just as many Yes voters were not bright enough to see what an economic basket case the white paper was, many UK voters may not be bright enough to realise why Scotland deserves slightly more to be spent - and demand a level playing field.

It would be funny if not so sad and divisive.


PS You have it spot on about fluffnik, it says alot about the mentality of those who focus on the negative (fatally wound the UK), rather than what is positive for Scotland. Again, not bright enough to realise that they don't actually have a positive plan - it is just based on "get rid of UK, then things will magically be better".

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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fluffnik said:
Correct.

The purpose of the exercise was to fatally wound the UK, and, as I've been saying lang sine, the exercise will succeed.

smile
Must be quite sad, knowing you'll never achieve your dream smile

NailedOn

3,114 posts

236 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Vote SNP, get Milepede.
Plus as many referenda as required to get Yes vote.
Labour can kick West Lothian question into the long grass.
England can go twiddle its thumbs.
EU referendum joins West Lothian question.
Economy tanks as schoolboy Marxist experiments with left wing agenda of equality for all by making us all broke.

HenryJM

6,315 posts

130 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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///ajd said:
You have it spot on about fluffnik, it says alot about the mentality of those who focus on the negative (fatally wound the UK), rather than what is positive for Scotland. Again, not bright enough to realise that they don't actually have a positive plan - it is just based on "get rid of UK, then things will magically be better".
The stuff he wants doesn't match what other Scots would be after even if independence did ever happen. Real fruit loop stuff.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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SNP must really hate labour. By hinting that they will get into bed with labour, they have twisted the knife into Labours chances South of the border . Not satisfied with destroying them in Scotland they will now finish them off here.
Cameron should make a big thing of this come election time.
Vote Labour- get SNP
The final nail in Labours coffin - hilarious how SNP short sightedness always achieves the opposite to the aim!!

Rollin

6,094 posts

246 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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fluffnik said:
Wombat3 said:
Scotland will be gone.
Correct.

The purpose of the exercise was to fatally wound the UK, and, as I've been saying lang sine, the exercise will succeed.

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Fatally wounded the Scottish parliament more like. You'll see that disappear in your lifetime.
You've been proven to be crap at predicting Scotland's future (was it 80% yes?)... Just hot air and bullst.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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fluffnik said:
Correct.

The purpose of the exercise was to fatally wound the UK, and, as I've been saying lang sine, the exercise will succeed.

smile
Terrorism of the political, social and economic order.

Nose cut, face spited.

Don't you realise that by dividing the UK you also divide Scotland? It's not difficult to comprehend. Shut up or ship out - Scotland voted to remain in the UK. For good.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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simoid said:
fluffnik said:
Correct.

The purpose of the exercise was to fatally wound the UK, and, as I've been saying lang sine, the exercise will succeed.

smile
Terrorism of the political, social and economic order.

Nose cut, face spited.

Don't you realise that by dividing the UK you also divide Scotland? It's not difficult to comprehend. Shut up or ship out - Scotland voted to remain in the UK. For good.
He doesn't care

If a independent republic meant 50% of scotlands population living in cardboard box he would be happy

an ahole of the highest order

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Potential significant change to the British and Scottish political landscapes here, with good write up from Brian Taylor.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Edinburger said:
Potential significant change to the British and Scottish political landscapes here, with good write up from Brian Taylor.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
It's a fascinating situation - if the SNP does as well as I'm beginning to think it might, we have the very real possibility of five multi-seat parties in the Commons next parliament. The SNP, while ruling out a coalition, do seem to be leaving the door ajar to the Tories for support on certain issues as part of a minority government if the Conservative party (or indeed, the Coalition it forms) still isn't quite big enough to take a majority.

Although it doesn't get addressed, I wonder what the situation would be regarding Labour? I can't see the SNP wanting to go into government with them either.

voyds9

8,489 posts

284 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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I was voting UKIP and relatively resigned to getting a Labour government.

I certainly don't want SNP to hold the balance of power, so now will be voting Conservative.

Strange thing this politics lark. Not voting for what I want but voting against what what I don't want

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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The SNP approach to democracy


Funk

26,296 posts

210 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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It would be completely unacceptable that the SNP can have their own Parliament AND hold 'king-making' power in UK Parliament as well. If that's the case then the rUK must also be given votes on Scottish matters.

NicD

3,281 posts

258 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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yes, makes me sick, why didn't they vote to leave?

some small good news

'SNP will never go into coalition with Tories - Sturgeon'

James P

2,958 posts

238 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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HenryJM said:
fluffnik said:
Correct.

The purpose of the exercise was to fatally wound the UK, and, as I've been saying lang sine, the exercise will succeed.

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And that's what sums you up. The purpose should be positive for scotland and yet you express it as 'fatally wound the U.K.'

What a sad and pathetic creature you are.
Agreed. A remarkable and pathetic admission.

xjsdriver

1,071 posts

122 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
They will have income tax powers by then

I predict anything over an average wage will be taxed at 100%

Edited by McWigglebum4th on Saturday 15th November 08:48
Well given your past predictions...... let's not worry about that too much.....

What was it there'll be armed insurrection by Yes voters if it's a No Vote?..... (or words to that effect) So far, we've just had bams in Rangers tops (and making Nazi salutes) causing trouble post the No vote and they "won" - fking retards!!!

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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xjsdriver said:
Well given your past predictions...... let's not worry about that too much.....

What was it there'll be armed insurrection by Yes voters if it's a No Vote?..... (or words to that effect) So far, we've just had bams in Rangers tops (and making Nazi salutes) causing trouble post the No vote and they "won" - fking retards!!!
You not fked off to freedom you sectarian piece of work?

You lost DEAL WITH IT


And why not tax anything above average at 100%?

Wasn't all about fairness?

Or was it just some religious waffle and flag waving

Cobnapint

8,632 posts

152 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
The SNP approach to democracy

Agreed.

To hear Sturgeon going on, you'd think they'd won independence and the road was cleared ahead for Scotland to do whatever it wants.

Spend spend spend; lots of an anti-westminster rhetoric; the next-gen trident subs to be used as a political bargaining chip; Scotland WILL become independent but she's not setting a date - it must be the will of the bla bla bla.

In other words, sod the result of the vote, normal service has been resumed.

She sounds more dangerous than Salmond.

General Price

5,252 posts

184 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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I see Fat Eck is staying at Gleneagles for the party conference in Perth.It is refreshing to see a politician who is in touch with the people and an all round good sort doesn't feel the need to stay in fancy hotels.

If only he had exploded instead of his effigy.

Sway

26,290 posts

195 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Just seen the thread in the lounge where the ScotGov are paying people to go to companies' car parks and inflating tyres...

All part of 'meeting Scotland's ambitious carbon emissions targets'.

Firstly, what a waste of fking cash (especially in the example given, they've dropped the pressures, reducing economy).

Secondly, aren't they 'Britain's ambitious carbon emissions targets'?
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