Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
HenryJM said:
Interesting that scots are now having their Alcohol driving limit cut, 80 to 50....
Don't think England will be far behind it. Downside, even more rural pubs closing down, more out of work. I do wonder what the incident rate was of those between 50 and 80, then again, previously if you were involved in an incident and you tested below 80, was that recorded.
Vipers said:
HenryJM said:
Interesting that scots are now having their Alcohol driving limit cut, 80 to 50....
Don't think England will be far behind it. Downside, even more rural pubs closing down, more out of work. I do wonder what the incident rate was of those between 50 and 80, then again, previously if you were involved in an incident and you tested below 80, was that recorded.That point is an intriguing one for me, and impossible to work out.
Say Jock Bloggs has a glass of fairly strong red with his dinner that takes him over the limit at 55, and drives home and 'there is a collision'. How are we ever to know if that collision would've occured if he had a can of irn-bru instead?
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The Thread for this: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Say Jock Bloggs has a glass of fairly strong red with his dinner that takes him over the limit at 55, and drives home and 'there is a collision'. How are we ever to know if that collision would've occured if he had a can of irn-bru instead?
EDIT
The Thread for this: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Surely if near the boarder and you'd had two you would simply pull over in the nearest possible chance but in England... Yes Mr Policeman can I help you ? Oh breath test.
Gotcha this is England isn't it so my allowed limit is 2 weak pints of beer phew if I were in Scotland I'd be bang to rights..
Gotcha this is England isn't it so my allowed limit is 2 weak pints of beer phew if I were in Scotland I'd be bang to rights..
Strocky said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Since this whole debate has started
I have told people i am english
As being scottish is too embarrassing as folk think of angry little t
ts like you
I know Scots are known to be self loathing but you're taking it to extremes, not that I believe for a minute that your even remotely enough interesting in real life for anyone who'd want to converse with you in the first place I have told people i am english
As being scottish is too embarrassing as folk think of angry little t
ts like you
Or am i some sort of traitor to scotland?
Strocky said:
OpulentBob said:
According to the Yessirs ("The 37"), going against the settled and considered will of the Scottish people is A-OK, so that shouldn't bother you.
When did this happen?There was a coup and I missed it?
All except The 37 and the SNP - led by Fishface - who are now bleating on about a second bite of the cherry, having another go, Independence within 10 years etc.
McWigglebum4th said:
Do you belive i am a true scot?
Or am i some sort of traitor to scotland?
Based on the empirical data I've garnered from your posts, you seem to be a potty mouthed right wing unionist eejit, but as my mammy told me when she used to bounce me on her knee, "you can be anything you want to be when you grow up"Or am i some sort of traitor to scotland?
If you consider yourself a true Scot (despite your words and actions that could possibly be viewed as incompatible with that label) then who am I to burst your bubble?
Strocky said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Do you belive i am a true scot?
Or am i some sort of traitor to scotland?
Based on the empirical data I've garnered from your posts, you seem to be a potty mouthed right wing unionist eejit, but as my mammy told me when she used to bounce me on her knee, "you can be anything you want to be when you grow up"Or am i some sort of traitor to scotland?
If you consider yourself a true Scot (despite your words and actions that could possibly be viewed as incompatible with that label) then who am I to burst your bubble?
Thank f
k i'm not a true scotAs looking at the evidence i have seen a true scot is a left wing arrogant a
hole who has zero grasp of figures or finances or reality with a HUGE chip on your shoulder.Tell me one thing
When as stupid idiot like me can make it despite the best efforts of england to hold me back
Why can't you?
McWigglebum4th said:
I will take that as a no then
Thank fk i'm not a true scot
As looking at the evidence i have seen a true scot is a left wing arrogant ahole who has zero grasp of figures or finances reality with a HUGE chip on your shoulder.
Tell me one thing
When as stupid idiot like me can make it despite the best efforts of england to hold me back
Why can't you?
Your sense of self is solely for you to determine no one else, however it's a bit churlish to cry foul about being called out on being a "true Scot" (I'd actually use the term patriotic Scot myself) when you've posted things like saying you've told people your English due to embarrassment (not that I believe that for a second)Thank f
k i'm not a true scotAs looking at the evidence i have seen a true scot is a left wing arrogant a
hole who has zero grasp of figures or finances reality with a HUGE chip on your shoulder.Tell me one thing
When as stupid idiot like me can make it despite the best efforts of england to hold me back
Why can't you?
No chip on my shoulder, just a wish for self determination, a different way of governance and escape from a system built on priviledge and elitism at the top level and the chance for a fairer society with a smaller inequality gap (wether that would happen in an IS is another question but it can't be worse than it is now)
I'm not held back by being part of the UK but plenty of other UK residents are due to the current austerity measures that are targeting the wrong section of society IMO
In what way does a England hold you back despite being a self confessed idiot?
Strocky said:
It can't be worse than it is now)
.....and it was right there that the usual SNP/Nationalist victim bks broke the surface (as indeed it always does).What you (they) need to explain, in detail, is exactly what would be better and by how much because, frankly, you don't know the meaning of the words "hardship" and "deprivation".
Almost everything we hear about how wonderful independence would have been and how badly Scotland fares as part of the Union is vague, unsubstantiated rubbish (such as you spout) which is either devoid of facts or heavily laced with simple (and obvious) lies. And none of you ever explains what it is (in detail) that you could achieve via independence that you can't achieve right now (aside from some wishy-washy nonsense about a "fairer society" without actually explaining what it means or how it would be paid for).
3.6M people have had their say and 2M of them said "No!" . Scotland will do much better when the remainder accept that result and divert their energies to more positive things because the one thing you can count is that the 2M are not going to go away.
Wombat3 said:
Strocky said:
It can't be worse than it is now)
.....and it was right there that the usual SNP/Nationalist victim bks broke the surface (as indeed it always does).What you (they) need to explain, in detail, is exactly what would be better and by how much because, frankly, you don't know the meaning of the words "hardship" and "deprivation".
Almost everything we hear about how wonderful independence would have been and how badly Scotland fares as part of the Union is vague, unsubstantiated rubbish (such as you spout) which is either devoid of facts or heavily laced with simple (and obvious) lies. And none of you ever explains what it is (in detail) that you could achieve via independence that you can't achieve right now (aside from some wishy-washy nonsense about a "fairer society" without actually explaining what it means or how it would be paid for).
3.6M people have had their say and 2M of them said "No!" . Scotland will do much better when the remainder accept that result and divert their energies to more positive things because the one thing you can count is that the 2M are not going to go away.
Post of the day right there.They've had their chance. Me and a whole load of other Scots DIDN'T want it. Now get over it and stop whining.
Seriously, that 45 lot could give lessons in b
hing to Taylor Swift; I'm surprised they haven't took a leaf out of her book and started writing songs about it.Hainey said:
Bravo Sir! Post of the day right there.
They've had their chance. Me and a whole load of other Scots DIDN'T want it. Now get over it and stop whining.
Seriously, that 45 lot could give lessons in bhing to Taylor Swift; I'm surprised they haven't took a leaf out of her book and started writing songs about it.
They have Post of the day right there.They've had their chance. Me and a whole load of other Scots DIDN'T want it. Now get over it and stop whining.
Seriously, that 45 lot could give lessons in b
hing to Taylor Swift; I'm surprised they haven't took a leaf out of her book and started writing songs about it.they are indescribably awful
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