Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

[Rollin]

Strocky said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

bodhi said:

Watching from afar in horror at the SNP's attempt to tear my country in two?

Pleasing, very pleasing

You really are a piece of human waste aren't you


Is there anything that would make you of voted NO

And i mean anything


if a NO vote meant 25% of the population starving to death would it still be a YES from you?

You obviously didn't understand the nuance of the post, i.e. It's a good thing for future SI that supporters of the Union are sitting on their laurels, whereas YES are still campaigning

Again the comprehension skills from some .......

Re your premise, it's stupefyingly ridiculous, even Ethiopia at its peak was nowhere near that sort of mortality rate

It's also ironic given that food banks have grown exponentially under the Westminster machine (whilst being lauded by out if touch right wingers as showing society cares)

They've grown in Scotland under Holyrood. Why haven't they increase taxes to reduce food poverty?
Why do nationalists and your parliament refuse to accept their failings and continuously lay blame elsewhere?
What's the point of the Scottish parliament when it has tools to change things, but refuses to use them?

[HenryJM]

Strocky said:

HenryJM said:

Yes, I'm bemused at to what the though is that I am irrelevant, or what I am not keeping up with.

Oil was, until recent weeks, the way that oil was going to be the way in which Scotland was going to drive forwards. Today it suddenly isn't.

You asked if Scotland had any other sector that was as big as oil at 16%, I posted the graph, you're still bemused, other than spoon feeding you.......

The do keep up bean wasn't aimed at you either

The comprehension skills in this thread are frightening

So there I am with my PhD in economics and it seems I'm bemused. Well, yes, when people dont compare something of one characteristic against another it does become a little strange.

So why are we meant to be comparing public sector with oil?

[Axionknight]

Rollin said:

They've grown in Scotland under Holyrood. Why haven't they increase taxes to reduce food poverty?
Why do nationalists and your parliament refuse to accept their failings and continuously lay blame elsewhere?
What's the point of the Scottish parliament when it has tools to change things, but refuses to use them?

They have the greatest tool of them all, oh yes......

THE VICTIM CARD!

[McWigglebum4th]

HenryJM said:

So there I am with my PhD in economics and it seems I'm bemused. Well, yes, when people dont compare something of one characteristic against another it does become a little strange.

So why are we meant to be comparing public sector with oil?

Because you are english and you are oppressing the true scots

[Rollin]

Axionknight said:

Rollin said:

They've grown in Scotland under Holyrood. Why haven't they increase taxes to reduce food poverty?
Why do nationalists and your parliament refuse to accept their failings and continuously lay blame elsewhere?
What's the point of the Scottish parliament when it has tools to change things, but refuses to use them?

They have the greatest tool of them all, oh yes......

THE VICTIM CARD!

He's already said that Scots would be more inclined to pay more tax than the English so why isn't the Scottish government upping rates?

[HenryJM]

McWigglebum4th said:

HenryJM said:

So there I am with my PhD in economics and it seems I'm bemused. Well, yes, when people dont compare something of one characteristic against another it does become a little strange.

So why are we meant to be comparing public sector with oil?

Because you are english and you are oppressing the true scots

[Strocky]

HenryJM said:

So there I am with my PhD in economics and it seems I'm bemused. Well, yes, when people dont compare something of one characteristic against another it does become a little strange.

So why are we meant to be comparing public sector with oil?

You're now actually bemusing me now, you asserted that oil at 16% was the only major sector per % for Scotland's GDP are you saying that the graph posted supports your argument?

Would you also disagree that the graph illustrates that their is not a major difference between Scotland & the UK's sectors % breakdown by GDP?

[Einion Yrth]

McWigglebum4th said:

HenryJM said:

So there I am with my PhD in economics and it seems I'm bemused. Well, yes, when people dont compare something of one characteristic against another it does become a little strange.

So why are we meant to be comparing public sector with oil?

Because you are english and you are oppressing the true scots

I can't be arsed to fully research this but that pie chart would suggest to me that quite a lot of the service sector income is annotated as an export to the rest of the UK. Of course in the event of an independent Scotland there's no way we'd be able to sort that out for ourselves. Loss of HMRC at Cumbernauld might be an issue too.

[Strocky]

McWigglebum4th said:

Because I'm a moron and are I'm oppressing myself with nationalist rage and spittle

Fixt

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

Fixt

When you get freedom from the english


How much will your dole increase by?

[Rollin]

Strocky said:

HenryJM said:

So there I am with my PhD in economics and it seems I'm bemused. Well, yes, when people dont compare something of one characteristic against another it does become a little strange.

So why are we meant to be comparing public sector with oil?

You're now actually bemusing me now, you asserted that oil at 16% was the only major sector per % for Scotland's GDP are you saying that the graph posted supports your argument?

Would you also disagree that the graph illustrates that their is not a major difference between Scotland & the UK's sectors % breakdown by GDP?

Over reliant on the finance sector like the UK then?

[///ajd]

Strocky said:

HenryJM said:

So there I am with my PhD in economics and it seems I'm bemused. Well, yes, when people dont compare something of one characteristic against another it does become a little strange.

So why are we meant to be comparing public sector with oil?

You're now actually bemusing me now, you asserted that oil at 16% was the only major sector per % for Scotland's GDP are you saying that the graph posted supports your argument?

Would you also disagree that the graph illustrates that their is not a major difference between Scotland & the UK's sectors % breakdown by GDP?

Do you understand why saying the public sector is bigger than the oil sector is a daft argument?

[andymadmak]

///ajd said:

Strocky said:

HenryJM said:

So there I am with my PhD in economics and it seems I'm bemused. Well, yes, when people dont compare something of one characteristic against another it does become a little strange.

So why are we meant to be comparing public sector with oil?

You're now actually bemusing me now, you asserted that oil at 16% was the only major sector per % for Scotland's GDP are you saying that the graph posted supports your argument?

Would you also disagree that the graph illustrates that their is not a major difference between Scotland & the UK's sectors % breakdown by GDP?

Do you understand why saying the public sector is bigger than the oil sector is a daft argument?

But,but,but, public sector employees pay tax..........

[simoid]

Strocky said:

simoid said:

Strocky said:

simoid said:

I don't have a problem. You're the one who's having the comprehension catastrophes caused by paranoid delusions. The YES is strong in you, I sense.

Do you want Scotland to be an independent country?

Why don't you sit this round out, Champ

Why, having too much fun trolling around to have a proper discussion?

I do wonder why the nationalists possess this trait. They tried it for one referendum and lost resoundingly. Why not just have a mature, sensible discussion? They might even get some rational, sensible Scots on board. Probably best to jibe away on the internet though.

Pretty hard to have a proper discussion with someone who displays potential dissociative disorder from post to post

Hahaha, no you are mistaken. I've not said anything contradictory: you just have a hard time with grasping the English language.

[///ajd]

andymadmak said:

///ajd said:

Strocky said:

HenryJM said:

So there I am with my PhD in economics and it seems I'm bemused. Well, yes, when people dont compare something of one characteristic against another it does become a little strange.

So why are we meant to be comparing public sector with oil?

You're now actually bemusing me now, you asserted that oil at 16% was the only major sector per % for Scotland's GDP are you saying that the graph posted supports your argument?

Would you also disagree that the graph illustrates that their is not a major difference between Scotland & the UK's sectors % breakdown by GDP?

Do you understand why saying the public sector is bigger than the oil sector is a daft argument?

But,but,but, public sector employees pay tax..........

Yep, every £1 spent reaps in 20p for the taxpayer.

[Einion Yrth]

simoid said:

Hahaha, no you are mistaken. I've not said anything contradictory: you just have a hard time with grasping the English language.

Of course, it's a tool of oppression. Ye need tae hae yer havering in the mither-leid yer dafty.

[Strocky]

Einion Yrth said:

I can't be arsed to fully research this but that pie chart would suggest to me that quite a lot of the service sector income is annotated as an export to the rest of the UK. Of course in the event of an independent Scotland there's no way we'd be able to sort that out for ourselves. Loss of HMRC at Cumbernauld might be an issue too.

Revenue Scotland will be up and running by 2015

Look at the end of the day, paying for an independent Scotland with the policies offered isn't going to be easy, and something might have to give (either raised taxes or not implementing all the progressive policies)

Scotland's GDP is 99% of the UK's without oil, it's not a giant leap to think that Scotland could run a successful small country with a different foreign, social and economic policy less reliant on the banking sector

Bigger isn't always better especially when it's over-leveraged to ying yang

[Strocky]

andymadmak said:

///ajd said:

Strocky said:

HenryJM said:

So there I am with my PhD in economics and it seems I'm bemused. Well, yes, when people dont compare something of one characteristic against another it does become a little strange.

So why are we meant to be comparing public sector with oil?

You're now actually bemusing me now, you asserted that oil at 16% was the only major sector per % for Scotland's GDP are you saying that the graph posted supports your argument?

Would you also disagree that the graph illustrates that their is not a major difference between Scotland & the UK's sectors % breakdown by GDP?

Do you understand why saying the public sector is bigger than the oil sector is a daft argument?

But,but,but, public sector employees pay tax..........

Whereas corporations and friends of the government pay very little for major gain

[///ajd]

Strocky said:

it's not a giant leap to think that Scotland could run a successful small country with a different foreign, social and economic policy less reliant on the banking sector

But the majority of Scots want to remain in the Union. Why are you ignoring their wish?

Have you worked out why bragging that the Scottish Public Sector is bigger than the Oil Sector is not something to brag about yet?

What currency are you planning to use again?

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

Revenue Scotland will be up and running by 2015

Look at the end of the day, paying for an independent Scotland with the policies offered isn't going to be easy, and something might have to give (either raised taxes or not implementing all the progressive policies)

Scotland's GDP is 99% of the UK's without oil, it's not a giant leap to think that Scotland could run a successful small country with a different foreign, social and economic policy less reliant on the banking sector

Ah you are approaching reality

Independence would mean your dole dropping, big redundancies in the public sector, higher taxes, higher borrowing costs and a less stable economy

And there was me thinking you were a face painted total retard

I shall upgrade you to a face painted retard


Independence would mean a great deal of hardship for many

Not the £600 independence bonus that we were promised