Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
Edinburger said:
Driver101 said:
You're the biggest troll on this site. Either that or you a bitter beyond all reason.
You're the guy that needlessly brings Scottish people into various threads for absolutely not reason, then keep reminding them that they can't leave the referendum behind.
Oddly it's you thay can't leave it behind and introduce it all the time for no reason whatsoever.
You're a pathetically bitter, small minded, ignorant waste of space. You seem to be so stupid and full of yourself, you don't even notice.
Or you're just trolling.
Very, very well said. You're the guy that needlessly brings Scottish people into various threads for absolutely not reason, then keep reminding them that they can't leave the referendum behind.
Oddly it's you thay can't leave it behind and introduce it all the time for no reason whatsoever.
You're a pathetically bitter, small minded, ignorant waste of space. You seem to be so stupid and full of yourself, you don't even notice.
Or you're just trolling.
I've noticed Wiggly doing that in other threads too.
As for what you have noticed Edinburger, you'll excuse me for shaking my head in bemused disbelief at you. You are the man, after all, who failed to answer any sensible questions on SNP policies prior to the referendum, who could notice a squirrel at 5000 yards and point to it whilst simultaneously failing to notice the huge piles of elephant dung that constituted SNP economic policy, currency policy and EU policy even though it was right in front of you ( and was being pointed at by everyone in the NO camp) and who subsequently failed to notice which way you yourself actually voted.
Yes, yes, I know you're claiming that that last problem was just a typo. But, we don't believe you. Yes, yes, we get it that you don't care what I or others believe about you. But that's just iit, isn't it..... You Nats just don't care how much damage you have done and are continuing to do to Scotland. Its an utter tragedy that thousands will suffer because of your selfish, blinkered delusions. Me? Past caring, However for Wiggy and other decent Scottish folk it must be absolute feckin torture watching your wonderful country being torn apart in this way. It is little wonder that he expresses himself the way he does.
At least he's not violent and threatening like many of your Nat buddies are.
andymadmak said:
No, not very well said. Quite idiotiic actually. If Mr Driver101 was as frequent a visitor to PH forums as he claims he would be rather more familiar with Wiggys posting style.
As for what you have noticed Edinburger, you'll excuse me for shaking my head in bemused disbelief at you. You are the man, after all, who failed to answer any sensible questions on SNP policies prior to the referendum, who could notice a squirrel at 5000 yards and point to it whilst simultaneously failing to notice the huge piles of elephant dung that constituted SNP economic policy, currency policy and EU policy even though it was right in front of you ( and was being pointed at by everyone in the NO camp) and who subsequently failed to notice which way you yourself actually voted.
Yes, yes, I know you're claiming that that last problem was just a typo. But, we don't believe you. Yes, yes, we get it that you don't care what I or others believe about you. But that's just iit, isn't it..... You Nats just don't care how much damage you have done and are continuing to do to Scotland. Its an utter tragedy that thousands will suffer because of your selfish, blinkered delusions. Me? Past caring, However for Wiggy and other decent Scottish folk it must be absolute feckin torture watching your wonderful country being torn apart in this way. It is little wonder that he expresses himself the way he does.
At least he's not violent and threatening like many of your Nat buddies are.
very very very well said As for what you have noticed Edinburger, you'll excuse me for shaking my head in bemused disbelief at you. You are the man, after all, who failed to answer any sensible questions on SNP policies prior to the referendum, who could notice a squirrel at 5000 yards and point to it whilst simultaneously failing to notice the huge piles of elephant dung that constituted SNP economic policy, currency policy and EU policy even though it was right in front of you ( and was being pointed at by everyone in the NO camp) and who subsequently failed to notice which way you yourself actually voted.
Yes, yes, I know you're claiming that that last problem was just a typo. But, we don't believe you. Yes, yes, we get it that you don't care what I or others believe about you. But that's just iit, isn't it..... You Nats just don't care how much damage you have done and are continuing to do to Scotland. Its an utter tragedy that thousands will suffer because of your selfish, blinkered delusions. Me? Past caring, However for Wiggy and other decent Scottish folk it must be absolute feckin torture watching your wonderful country being torn apart in this way. It is little wonder that he expresses himself the way he does.
At least he's not violent and threatening like many of your Nat buddies are.
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andymadmak said:
No, not very well said. Quite idiotiic actually. If Mr Driver101 was as frequent a visitor to PH forums as he claims he would be rather more familiar with Wiggys posting style.
As for what you have noticed Edinburger, you'll excuse me for shaking my head in bemused disbelief at you. You are the man, after all, who failed to answer any sensible questions on SNP policies prior to the referendum, who could notice a squirrel at 5000 yards and point to it whilst simultaneously failing to notice the huge piles of elephant dung that constituted SNP economic policy, currency policy and EU policy even though it was right in front of you ( and was being pointed at by everyone in the NO camp) and who subsequently failed to notice which way you yourself actually voted.
Yes, yes, I know you're claiming that that last problem was just a typo. But, we don't believe you. Yes, yes, we get it that you don't care what I or others believe about you. But that's just iit, isn't it..... You Nats just don't care how much damage you have done and are continuing to do to Scotland. Its an utter tragedy that thousands will suffer because of your selfish, blinkered delusions. Me? Past caring, However for Wiggy and other decent Scottish folk it must be absolute feckin torture watching your wonderful country being torn apart in this way. It is little wonder that he expresses himself the way he does.
At least he's not violent and threatening like many of your Nat buddies are.
very very very well said As for what you have noticed Edinburger, you'll excuse me for shaking my head in bemused disbelief at you. You are the man, after all, who failed to answer any sensible questions on SNP policies prior to the referendum, who could notice a squirrel at 5000 yards and point to it whilst simultaneously failing to notice the huge piles of elephant dung that constituted SNP economic policy, currency policy and EU policy even though it was right in front of you ( and was being pointed at by everyone in the NO camp) and who subsequently failed to notice which way you yourself actually voted.
Yes, yes, I know you're claiming that that last problem was just a typo. But, we don't believe you. Yes, yes, we get it that you don't care what I or others believe about you. But that's just iit, isn't it..... You Nats just don't care how much damage you have done and are continuing to do to Scotland. Its an utter tragedy that thousands will suffer because of your selfish, blinkered delusions. Me? Past caring, However for Wiggy and other decent Scottish folk it must be absolute feckin torture watching your wonderful country being torn apart in this way. It is little wonder that he expresses himself the way he does.
At least he's not violent and threatening like many of your Nat buddies are.
I would rather listen to wiggy than anyone of those lying, twisted and f
king idiotic NAT tts any day.You guys seem to be making a lot of assumptions about me and my views. Sadly assumptions are where you fall down at the first hurdle.
If you had read half of what Wiggles has said in many other threads, you'd see where my point was coming from.
Anyway, I'll let you guys carry on the bitterness and going round in circles for the next few volumes.
Just in case many of you don't get the chance to visit Scotland often, the absolute majority of people have long moved on. I honestly don't remember the last time anyone in my company even raised the topic.
I'm on various forums and not a single one of them has an active thread running.
Time to move on. It seems people just want to keep poking the fire to get a reaction.
If you had read half of what Wiggles has said in many other threads, you'd see where my point was coming from.
Anyway, I'll let you guys carry on the bitterness and going round in circles for the next few volumes.
Just in case many of you don't get the chance to visit Scotland often, the absolute majority of people have long moved on. I honestly don't remember the last time anyone in my company even raised the topic.
I'm on various forums and not a single one of them has an active thread running.
Time to move on. It seems people just want to keep poking the fire to get a reaction.
NoNeed said:
Driver101 said:
Anyway, I'll let you guys carry on the bitterness and going round in circles for the next few volumes.
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LOL it's you lot that are bitter, YOU LOST.
As I pointed out above, you are making assumptions. Even when I've told you that, you're still wrongly making assumptions.
Put the shovel away and go to bed. It's late and you haven't got a clue.
Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 3rd March 23:32
Welshbeef said:
R4 this morning confirmed the spend required on Westminster is £3b not the £5b you flagged -- don't let details get in the way eh.
Anyway turns out they are actually looking for outside Lindon venues for the time of the rebuild and also one serious option is to leave the building for good this not incurring any repair costs.
Its 20years though before things need to be done so watch this space.
I was merely reporting on what had been said on R4 previously......if you'd actually READ and COMPREHENDED what I'd written, then you'd have noticed and understood that I'd stated that the figure would be BETWEEN £1BN AND £5BN - not my estimates you understand, but the views of the engineer they were interviewing, he went on to say that until they started the work, that the true cost simply couldn't be ascertained with any degree of accuracy.Anyway turns out they are actually looking for outside Lindon venues for the time of the rebuild and also one serious option is to leave the building for good this not incurring any repair costs.
Its 20years though before things need to be done so watch this space.
Rollin said:
xjsdriver said:
NoNeed said:
Actually created by a fking idiotic Scottish Chancellor and his Scottish prime minister mate.
So they're Scottish when describing anything negative about them - whilst retaining the remarkably Schroedinger-like properties when the usual suspects on here describe them as British when it's anything positive (in the cabal's eyes) to do with them.....ho-hum it is the PH way, I don't know how many times I've said it's irrelevant where they were born - but much more relevant as to which government machine they work for.king idiotic Scottish Chancellor and his Scottish prime minister mate.t hypocrite. 
Sway said:
Seeing as you posted this straight after my post, I'll assume you're talking about me.
Yes, I have a vast amount of contempt for a section of Scottish society. The part that have decided that they have it so good if it weren't for the meddling, oil grabbings in Westminster. The ones that want to walk away from a shared history spanning centuries, where short term economics didn't come into the equation.
One of your number has claimed that the HoP was funded by 'Scottish Oil'. That deserves complete contempt. It's bks, always has been bks, and yet amazingly, not one of you s has even remotely answered the fking question - if Scotland is the land of milk, honey and money, then you should easily be able to demonstrate that over the history of the union Scotland has been a net contributor.
There's a reason why that question hasn't been answered - because you can't. Not even closely. The very, very best you can do is point to the last 30 years and try to come up with a vaguely believable number.
I've worked in Scotland. Have many Scottish friends. Assisted one of the largest Scottish companies recover from the worst period in it's history. I've holidayed there, and taken my kids there to meet wonderful people and a glorious environment.
But I truly despise you, Strocky, Viperpict and all the other nationalists who whinge, whine, moan and insult those who have either directly, or via their ancestors, have supported Scotland for centuries. You ignore, evade, prevaricate and mislead. Enough.
Answer the fking question - what possible benefit has the rest of the UK had for the Darian bailout, and everything that has come since? Answer me that, before I even consider having any consideration for your views or feelings. After all, you all bring up 'Scottish Oil' often enough...
OK let's put Darien to bed once and for all. The debt incurred by the Darien project was not incurred by the Nation of Scotland, but by the wealthy backers of the project. It was those backers, not the Scottish State who were re-imbursed from English coffers - therefore it cannot be the state that is held "liable". It is much the same scenario as today, RBS gets into trouble and it's board members do quite nicely out of the arrangement - well apart from Fred losing his sYes, I have a vast amount of contempt for a section of Scottish society. The part that have decided that they have it so good if it weren't for the meddling, oil grabbing
s in Westminster. The ones that want to walk away from a shared history spanning centuries, where short term economics didn't come into the equation.One of your number has claimed that the HoP was funded by 'Scottish Oil'. That deserves complete contempt. It's b
ks, always has been bks, and yet amazingly, not one of you s has even remotely answered the fking question - if Scotland is the land of milk, honey and money, then you should easily be able to demonstrate that over the history of the union Scotland has been a net contributor.There's a reason why that question hasn't been answered - because you can't. Not even closely. The very, very best you can do is point to the last 30 years and try to come up with a vaguely believable number.
I've worked in Scotland. Have many Scottish friends. Assisted one of the largest Scottish companies recover from the worst period in it's history. I've holidayed there, and taken my kids there to meet wonderful people and a glorious environment.
But I truly despise you, Strocky, Viperpict and all the other nationalist
s who whinge, whine, moan and insult those who have either directly, or via their ancestors, have supported Scotland for centuries. You ignore, evade, prevaricate and mislead. Enough.Answer the f
king question - what possible benefit has the rest of the UK had for the Darian bailout, and everything that has come since? Answer me that, before I even consider having any consideration for your views or feelings. After all, you all bring up 'Scottish Oil' often enough...tehood, I mean knighthood.....and even then I don't think he's doing too badly financially - although I do think the should have been jailed for his troubles. Iceland really did have the right idea there. 
xjsdriver said:
I don't believe even with 59 seats, that the SNP will be able to form a government - no matter how much of a scary bogeyman he seems to be to the majority of the faithful on here, unless you know of any recent parliamentary changes which would allow such a minority government to form....as you were gents!!!
It is typical of people that have been conned to not want to believe they have been conned, and at some point you idiotic yessers will wake up to the fact that Salmpnd was in it for himself and only himself and all those that bought his xjsdriver said:
Axionknight said:
arp1 said:
This topic really does show you the contempt some tts in other parts of the country have towards Scotland is it really borders on racism, casual and otherwise...
ts in other parts of the country have towards Scotland is it really borders on racism, casual and otherwise... 
YOU aren't scotland
WE the 64% who did not vote to leave the UK are scotland
so never ever assume that you speak for me
xjsdriver said:
OK let's put Darien to bed once and for all. The debt incurred by the Darien project was not incurred by the Nation of Scotland, but by the wealthy backers of the project. It was those backers, not the Scottish State who were re-imbursed from English coffers - therefore it cannot be the state that is held "liable". It is much the same scenario as today, RBS gets into trouble and it's board members do quite nicely out of the arrangement - well apart from Fred losing his stehood, I mean knighthood.....and even then I don't think he's doing too badly financially - although I do think the should have been jailed for his troubles. Iceland really did have the right idea there.
Thank you for a direct answer.tehood, I mean knighthood.....and even then I don't think he's doing too badly financially - although I do think the should have been jailed for his troubles. Iceland really did have the right idea there. However, whilst the Darien scheme failure wasn't directly the fault of the Scottish government, the bailout during the Act of Union was to prop up the failed Scottish Pound, and a grant of £400k (in 1707, that's a bloody enormous amount) to prevent Scotland (the state) from future liabilities...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darien_scheme (now I admit, it's only something I've learnt about recently. Until the referendum, I had zero interest until the Nat campaign started playing the 'poor us' game, claiming theft of Scottish Oil and Scotland propping up rUK).
Of course, even ignoring Darien, there's 280 odd years of Scottish deficit prior to any oil being extracted.
Ultimately, I just wish that the Nats would recognise the immense strength and benefits both countries have had as part of the most successful union in history, instead of sniping that the HoP had been 'funded by Scottish Oil', along all the other claims of being 'raped and pillaged' by rUK.
I wonder what the reaction would be in Germany a few hundred years down the line if the former East Germany found loads of a rare commodity and wanted independence...
Sway said:
I wonder what the reaction would be in Germany a few hundred years down the line if the former East Germany found loads of a rare commodity and wanted independence...
East germany?Would that be the socialist country which voted to end its independence and join its capitalist neighbour
McWigglebum4th said:
Sway said:
I wonder what the reaction would be in Germany a few hundred years down the line if the former East Germany found loads of a rare commodity and wanted independence...
East germany?Would that be the socialist country which voted to end its independence and join its capitalist neighbour
Sway said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Sway said:
I wonder what the reaction would be in Germany a few hundred years down the line if the former East Germany found loads of a rare commodity and wanted independence...
East germany?Would that be the socialist country which voted to end its independence and join its capitalist neighbour
They were lying
OH
MY
GOD!!!!!!!!!!
Driver101 said:
Just in case many of you don't get the chance to visit Scotland often, the absolute majority of people have long moved on. I honestly don't remember the last time anyone in my company even raised the topic.
I'm on various forums and not a single one of them has an active thread running.
Time to move on. It seems people just want to keep poking the fire to get a reaction.
Alpacaman said:
Driver101 said:
Just in case many of you don't get the chance to visit Scotland often, the absolute majority of people have long moved on. I honestly don't remember the last time anyone in my company even raised the topic.
I'm on various forums and not a single one of them has an active thread running.
Time to move on. It seems people just want to keep poking the fire to get a reaction.
s will never give upIt won't go away
They are like a cancer
And a great of them want to end my way of life
And assuming driver101 has a job that pays well and he enjoys owning stuff they want his way of life ended also
McWigglebum4th said:
Sway said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Sway said:
I wonder what the reaction would be in Germany a few hundred years down the line if the former East Germany found loads of a rare commodity and wanted independence...
East germany?Would that be the socialist country which voted to end its independence and join its capitalist neighbour
They were lying
OH
MY
GOD!!!!!!!!!!
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