Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

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Edinburger

10,403 posts

168 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
Care to point out UKIPs anti Scottish policies?

So you are mixed over the EU

you believe it is good for trade but you believe we should leave the UK despite we sell more to England then we do to the EU
For starters, UKIP is preparing a manifesto pledge to slash billions of pounds from Scotland’s budget to help to pay for tax cuts for English voters.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip...

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Edinburger said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Care to point out UKIPs anti Scottish policies?

So you are mixed over the EU

you believe it is good for trade but you believe we should leave the UK despite we sell more to England then we do to the EU
For starters, UKIP is preparing a manifesto pledge to slash billions of pounds from Scotland’s budget to help to pay for tax cuts for English voters.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip...
So bringing scottish spending down to the same levels as england is anti scottish

Then logically then surely the current spending levels in england must also be anti english


Also by moaning bout scotland be threatened with the same levels of spending as england must mean you acknowledge we get more spending then england


Remind me again what a bum deal we are getting

Sway

26,275 posts

194 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Edinburger said:
You didn't stick in at school, sunshine. rolleyes
Funnily enough, Scottish history was given as much relevance at my school as that of Belgium's...

Appropriately so. However I was embued with the ability to read, and understand what I'm reading.

So tell me where I'm wrong, and if possible cite sources.

Oh, and why is the land area relevant? You have approx. 10% of representatives at Parliament, which is right for your population...

AstonZagato

12,702 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Sway,

Don't let them wind you up - it what the losers want. If they can get a few people south of the border to say nasty things they will wave their oversized victim cards (just wait, they'll be along in a moment) and try to rally a few more to the losing side of the argument. The majority of Scots want nothing to do with this idiocy because they understand democracy and fairness. These referendum deniers understand neither of these.


Garvin

5,171 posts

177 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
. . . . . . . . Remind me again what a bum deal we are getting
I'm afraid the only bum deal you're getting is Holyrood and the SNP . . . . . . . but that's the result of those who vote them in and, in a democratic society, you are going to have to put up it. Or move to a country where the administration don't have st for brains . . . . . . although that's not that easy to find. You have my sympathy.

AstonZagato

12,702 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Edinburger said:
Troubleatmill said:
Scotland is a region of the United Kingdom.
It has exactly the same representative rights and ratios to every other region.

There 650 seats divvied up per 90,000 or so people of the United Kingdom.
How do you make it more fair and equal than that?

There have also been a lot of very prominent Scots in the top jobs over the years too.


You need to explain why you don't the this as fair and equal.
Scotland is a country of the UK representing 1/3 of the UK's land mass and less than 10% of the UK's population.

That's relevant.
Not really. To take another metric, London represents 22pct of UK GDP and has 11pct of the MPs. Land mass is not a particularly relevant metric as land does not need individual representation.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Edinburger said:
Scotland is a country of the UK representing 1/3 of the UK's land mass and less than 10% of the UK's population.

That's relevant.
My garden extends to 2 acres

I own a larger percentage of the UK then you do

So by your logic i should have extra voting rights over you

arp1

583 posts

127 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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No wonder you voted no, wanting to keep the rich rich and piss on the poor, laird mcBum wink

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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arp1 said:
No wonder you voted no, wanting to keep the rich rich and piss on the poor, laird mcBum wink
Where as you want to make the rich poor and the poor also poor

And 2 acres really isn't very much

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Edinburger said:
Scotland is a country of the UK representing 1/3 of the UK's land mass and less than 10% of the UK's population.

That's relevant.
Scotland is not a country. It is a nation.
I accept that you would like Scotland to be a country. - But - it is not.

It is a small point - but an important one.

Troubleatmill

10,210 posts

159 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Even the EU Parliament member seats doesn't work on geographic area size.


rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
My garden extends to 2 acres

I own a larger percentage of the UK then you do

So by your logic i should have extra voting rights over you
I have 12 english acres. How many votes can I have please? smile

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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rovermorris999 said:
McWigglebum4th said:
My garden extends to 2 acres

I own a larger percentage of the UK then you do

So by your logic i should have extra voting rights over you
I have 12 english acres. How many votes can I have please? smile
We maybe would should do it on vote per acre

so i get 2 votes

You get 12 votes

And someone in a pappy little flat in london has 0.001votes

AstonZagato

12,702 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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rovermorris999 said:
McWigglebum4th said:
My garden extends to 2 acres

I own a larger percentage of the UK then you do

So by your logic i should have extra voting rights over you
I have 12 english acres. How many votes can I have please? smile
None because you are an English oppressor of the brave Scots.

But a recent report suggested that 500 people own about half of Scotland. So, if Edinburger's land area = votes calculation is correct then they should each have about 20,000 votes (10mio in total). Then Scotland would have the government they require.

rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Are english acres worth more or less?

simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Depends if they were bought and sold with English gold.

Edinburger, care to explain why land mass is relevant?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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rovermorris999 said:
Are english acres worth more or less?
Well they are certainly more oppressing


Rollin

6,088 posts

245 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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simoid said:
Depends if they were bought and sold with English gold.

Edinburger, care to explain why land mass is relevant?
Wasn't relevant when discussing this..


Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Well.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Four areas with a majority Yes vote, four areas that are total dumps - and full of scrubbers to boot, what a surprise.
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