Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

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Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Of course he can, he's a Scot Nat.

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Wiggles, when did I ever say what you assumed i meant? And explain to me how westminister is NOT a cosy old boys club?

AstonZagato

12,716 posts

211 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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arp1 said:
And explain to me how westminister is NOT a cosy old boys club?
Ever heard of Bernadette Delvin, arp?

21 when elected and female. About as far from the establishment as it is possible to get. And that was back in the 60s.

How about a Scottish MP? Pamela Nash (Airdrie and Shotts). 25 when elected. And that was in the last election.

Even the Tories are doing it. Chloe Smith, 27 when elected.

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Oh ffs stop being pedantic

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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arp1 said:
Oh ffs stop proving me wrong
hehe

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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AstonZagato said:
Even the Tories are doing it. Chloe Smith, 27 when elected.
Barely mentioned these days, but I seem to recall they once had a female party leader too.

arp1

583 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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arp1 said:
Wiggles, when did I ever say what you assumed i meant? And explain to me how westminister is NOT a cosy old 'boys' club?
Fixed wink


Strocky

2,650 posts

114 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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AstonZagato said:
arp1 said:
The uk government wanted scotland to stay but now they are worried that scotland will affect their decision making powers in their cosy old boys club in westminister... Can't have it both ways I'm afraid.
But, but, but you Nationalists say that Scottish votes don't count and you can't influence Westminster (despite Scottish MPs having a glorious tradition of doing just that - bringing in Thatcher - LOL - voting through tuition fees, etc.)

You can't have it both ways, I' afraid.
Only because Labour, the Lib Dems and the Tories made a rip-roaring of the Referendum (despite winning it) wink

Strocky

2,650 posts

114 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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AstonZagato said:
arp1 said:
And explain to me how westminister is NOT a cosy old boys club?
Ever heard of Bernadette Delvin, arp?

21 when elected and female. About as far from the establishment as it is possible to get. And that was back in the 60s.

How about a Scottish MP? Pamela Nash (Airdrie and Shotts). 25 when elected. And that was in the last election.

Even the Tories are doing it. Chloe Smith, 27 when elected.
When did they start directly influencing policy at national level?




Sway

26,325 posts

195 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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When they were pivotal in getting Maggie into power...

Strocky

2,650 posts

114 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Sway said:
When they were pivotal in getting Maggie into power...
That was quite a feat for Pamela Nash given she was born in 1984 and a Labour Party member laugh

And Bernadette Devlin a committed Republican

MintyScot

848 posts

193 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Received a letter through the post the other day about the new Scottish powers. Its a very obvious attempt to repair the damage done by the miss information from the yes camp. Clearly states key points about NHS, education and laws etc. Hopefully this will clear up some points for the 45'ers.

Also has this been discussed yet?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-31831857

Article about the latest GERS report again showing Scotland with its continued deficit and greater per person public spending...

Strocky

2,650 posts

114 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Does the £1200 extra spend include all the UK infrastructure projects as/link or is that over and above?

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

Rollin

6,097 posts

246 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Does it include the much reduced contribution from "Scottish oil" ? What plans have the nats got for making up the shortfall in revenue to Westminster since the oil price drop?

I assume it's only "Scottish oil" until the price drops. rofl

AstonZagato

12,716 posts

211 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Strocky said:
AstonZagato said:
arp1 said:
And explain to me how westminister is NOT a cosy old boys club?
Ever heard of Bernadette Delvin, arp?

21 when elected and female. About as far from the establishment as it is possible to get. And that was back in the 60s.

How about a Scottish MP? Pamela Nash (Airdrie and Shotts). 25 when elected. And that was in the last election.

Even the Tories are doing it. Chloe Smith, 27 when elected.
When did they start directly influencing policy at national level?
Women? Oh I'd say in 1979

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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arp1 said:
Wiggles, when did I ever say what you assumed i meant? And explain to me how westminister is NOT a cosy old boys club?
Explain to me how using the pound and getting all your laws from brussels is independence



Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Alex said it's all OK so surely everything will be fine?

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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AstonZagato said:
Strocky said:
AstonZagato said:
arp1 said:
And explain to me how westminister is NOT a cosy old boys club?
Ever heard of Bernadette Delvin, arp?

21 when elected and female. About as far from the establishment as it is possible to get. And that was back in the 60s.

How about a Scottish MP? Pamela Nash (Airdrie and Shotts). 25 when elected. And that was in the last election.

Even the Tories are doing it. Chloe Smith, 27 when elected.
When did they start directly influencing policy at national level?
Women? Oh I'd say in 1979
Earlier.

MintyScot

848 posts

193 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
Explain to me how using the pound and getting all your laws from brussels is independence
Bluff and buster! Haha sorry couldn't resist.

Ironic that the overall goal for the EU is one head/army/law system etc. A mega state basically.

Not only would London be replaced by Brussels but the Scottish government itself would inevitably lose power and influence.

Going from 5 million out of 60 million to 5 million out of 500 million people. 10% representation to 1%...Makes sense to me.

Don't get me wrong I'm not anti-EU or a supporter of ukip. Its just another fundamental key "argument" from the yes campaign that falls flat on its arse.

Strocky

2,650 posts

114 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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MintyScot said:
Bluff and buster! Haha sorry couldn't resist.

Ironic that the overall goal for the EU is one head/army/law system etc. A mega state basically.

Not only would London be replaced by Brussels but the Scottish government itself would inevitably lose power and influence.

Going from 5 million out of 60 million to 5 million out of 500 million people. 10% representation to 1%...Makes sense to me.

Don't get me wrong I'm not anti-EU or a supporter of ukip. Its just another fundamental key "argument" from the yes campaign that falls flat on its arse.
If you'd be so kind as to answer the question my good sir?

Could you also remind the ladies and children present which campaign during the Referendum where forced to withdraw a series of cinema ad's by ASA because of lies?

Ironically a YES or NO answer will suffice
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