Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

[Big Rod]

Strocky said:

Only for reasons of educating you (as it's now becoming a chore), when you quote a post you have 2 options, "quote" or "quote all", for brevity I chose to select "quote"

As you had posted the apology at the top of the post and then posted the edit sandwiched between the multi-quotes, when I selected the "quote" option instead of "quote all" the apology didn't appear and I mistakenly didn't see the apology that was there when I had originally read the thread, I hope that clears up your confusion

Perhaps in the interests of clarity you might consider using the tools to hand in a suitable manner in future then?

[Strocky]

Big Rod said:

Strocky said:

Only for reasons of educating you (as it's now becoming a chore), when you quote a post you have 2 options, "quote" or "quote all", for brevity I chose to select "quote"

As you had posted the apology at the top of the post and then posted the edit sandwiched between the multi-quotes, when I selected the "quote" option instead of "quote all" the apology didn't appear and I mistakenly didn't see the apology that was there when I had originally read the thread, I hope that clears up your confusion

Perhaps in the interests of clarity you might consider using the tools to hand in a suitable manner in future then?

Not sure if serious

If the original post had been constructed properly in the first place, then we wouldn't currently be sitting in Simoid's court of human rights over a perceived slight on a car forum

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

McWigglebum4th said:

And Cameron the English tory still beat the true scots

Aren't you a bunch of useless idiots


Beaten by an inbred Tory toff

Your religion must suck

Nope Labour/Gordon Brown won it for the Union by persuading enough Labour voters to vote NO, however that's backfired spectacularly on them since

Thankfully the Tories behaviour since has done more to advance independence than the SNP could ever dream of

So you were beaten by a mentally disabled one eyed idiot

[McWigglebum4th]

One question


If i vote SNP in MAY


Am i voting to get away from english oppression?

[arp1]

You are voting for a bigger representation in westminister for Scotland (where you bide btw), and a bigger voice will be heard better than it is now.

[andymadmak]

arp1 said:

You are voting for a bigger representation in westminister for Scotland (where you bide btw), and a bigger voice will be heard better than it is now.

Really? But you will have EXACTLY the same number of Scottish MPs of all types after the election as you do now. So how is that"bigger"?

Or are you saying that only the SNP can represent the people of Scotland?

[McWigglebum4th]

arp1 said:

You are voting for a bigger representation in westminister for Scotland (where you bide btw), and a bigger voice will be heard better than it is now.

But that voice will be screaming for the following


For me to pay higher taxes which i don't want
For me to bin nuclear weapons which i want to keep
For me to have more intrusion from the state which i don't want
For me to have less chance to see investment in scotland which i want in scotland
For me to see more power to holyrood which i don't want
For me to have no say on independence from europe which i want a say in
For me to see higher benefits which i don't want to see
For me to pay more on fuel which i don't want to pay
For the state to be massively increased which i don't want to see


So that bigger voice is basically calling for my wishes and way of life to be royally fked up

I voted NO because of everything you bunch of lefty idiots promised independence would bring



And what advantage is there to YOU for that voice to be friendly to england


If the SNP can make keeping scotland a MASSIVE vote loser in england what party will support keeping scotland in the 2018 independence referendum?



Of course you will not answer this as you know i speak the truth

[arp1]

Of the main stream parties their main aim is to big business in London, not the rest of the UK and certainly not scotland up in the 'north', whereas voting Snp secures a bigger voice for a scotland centric party who speak for Scotland as a primary but will also give the house another view on how things can be done, as opposed to the usual hooray way.

[WinstonWolf]

Strocky said:

WinstonWolf said:

It doesn't matter how many stupid gif's you post, you're still Cameron's bh.

I see the nuance of critiquing Wiggles posting style has went over your head

Is that the same Cameron that refused to come up to Scotland to face the electorate and pretended to be in Glasgow and begged Scotland to remain as part of the union, when he was actually in London during the Scottish Referendum?




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553833/Br...

And yet you still lost

[McWigglebum4th]

arp1 said:

Of the main stream parties their main aim is to big business in London, not the rest of the UK and certainly not scotland up in the 'north', whereas voting Snp secures a bigger voice for a scotland centric party who speak for Scotland as a primary but will also give the house another view on how things can be done, as opposed to the usual hooray way.

And what advantage is there to YOU for that voice to be friendly to england


If the SNP can make keeping scotland a MASSIVE vote loser in england what party will support keeping scotland in the 2018 independence referendum?



Of course you will not answer this as you know i speak the truth

[Gecko1978]

WinstonWolf said:

Strocky said:

WinstonWolf said:

It doesn't matter how many stupid gif's you post, you're still Cameron's bh.

I see the nuance of critiquing Wiggles posting style has went over your head

Is that the same Cameron that refused to come up to Scotland to face the electorate and pretended to be in Glasgow and begged Scotland to remain as part of the union, when he was actually in London during the Scottish Referendum?




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553833/Br...

And yet you still lost

That's worth a second statement.....You lost Cameron did not even come an see you and you still lost....all bar two parts of the country voted agaist it lol. Millions wasted firms saying they would leave on mass....yep you lost big time 2 years of campaining and you still lost hahahaha. You could not even get it passed when we had a Tory PM lol basically you are a really pathetic bunch who can't accept you lost lol

but you know the worst bit...rest of the UK wanted you to leave but we were not allowed to vote....

[arp1]

And look, big business is STILL leaving even though they said they wouldn't, so was it scaremongering or lies?

[MintyScot]

Strocky said:

Blame the behaviour of both Labour & the Tories since the referendum (EVEL, watered down Smith Commission, EU Referendum sop to UKIP and the Tories turning the SNP into the bogeyman)

Bullsh*t and you know it. You would use the colour of the sky as an excuse to carry on with your self-destructive, arrogant push to have your own way.

F*ck what everyone else thinks, I want, I want, I want and I'm going to stomp my little underdeveloped feet until I get it.

[anonymous-user]

Gecko1978 said:

but you know the worst bit...rest of the UK wanted you to leave but we were not allowed to vote....

You speak for the rest of the UK? If there wasn't a vote how do you know what the rest of the UK would have voted for?

It's like listening to children arguing. Apologies if you are actually a child.

[Gecko1978]

el stovey said:

Gecko1978 said:

but you know the worst bit...rest of the UK wanted you to leave but we were not allowed to vote....

You speak for the rest of the UK? If there wasn't a vote how do you know what the rest of the UK would have voted for?

It's like listening to children arguing. Apologies if you are actually a child.

You will recall the media circus that followed this debate and the fact the mood soured south of the border due to the negative Yes votes, threats made about defaulting on debt an kicking out trident etc and demanding share of the central bank.

The rest of the UK (read the big bit in the middle if you like) were often quoted in the press as saying they should go. This forum with its many volumes has many quotes to support that.

So again the SNP lost, a gap of 10% after years of shouting the message to anyone who would listen they still lost and lost in a big way bar dundee and glasgow (two poorest parts of Scotland I believe) the rest of the voters said no thanks.

Call me a child all you want but fact is under this gov't I have seen my business grow I am better off and doing well. Under the SNP's plans Scotland would have been a basket case. It makes me laugh really that people would vote for a party that would have seen them kicked out of Europe (which is not the same as asking in a referendum do you want to be in europe or are only scots allowed to have referendums). kicked out of NATO, loosing all major banks and thus create mass unemployment oh and not actually have a central bank or a currency lol.


Oh an just in case you missed it....you lost

[anonymous-user]

Gecko1978 said:

You will recall the media circus that followed this debate and the fact the mood soured south of the border due to the negative Yes votes, threats made about defaulting on debt an kicking out trident etc and demanding share of the central bank.

The rest of the UK (read the big bit in the middle if you like) were often quoted in the press as saying they should go. This forum with its many volumes has many quotes to support that.

So again the SNP lost, a gap of 10% after years of shouting the message to anyone who would listen they still lost and lost in a big way bar dundee and glasgow (two poorest parts of Scotland I believe) the rest of the voters said no thanks.

Call me a child all you want but fact is under this gov't I have seen my business grow I am better off and doing well. Under the SNP's plans Scotland would have been a basket case. It makes me laugh really that people would vote for a party that would have seen them kicked out of Europe (which is not the same as asking in a referendum do you want to be in europe or are only scots allowed to have referendums). kicked out of NATO, loosing all major banks and thus create mass unemployment oh and not actually have a central bank or a currency lol.


Oh an just in case you missed it....you lost

Ah so you have no evidence whatsoever.

I'm not a SNP supporter. I'm not even eligible to vote. I don't even come from the UK.

Well done.

[Strocky]

Gecko1978 said:

You will recall the media circus that followed this debate and the fact the mood soured south of the border due to the negative Yes votes, threats made about defaulting on debt an kicking out trident etc and demanding share of the central bank.

The rest of the UK (read the big bit in the middle if you like) were often quoted in the press as saying they should go. This forum with its many volumes has many quotes to support that.

So again the SNP lost, a gap of 10% after years of shouting the message to anyone who would listen they still lost and lost in a big way bar dundee and glasgow (two poorest parts of Scotland I believe) the rest of the voters said no thanks.

Call me a child all you want but fact is under this gov't I have seen my business grow I am better off and doing well. Under the SNP's plans Scotland would have been a basket case. It makes me laugh really that people would vote for a party that would have seen them kicked out of Europe (which is not the same as asking in a referendum do you want to be in europe or are only scots allowed to have referendums). kicked out of NATO, loosing all major banks and thus create mass unemployment oh and not actually have a central bank or a currency lol.


Oh an just in case you missed it....you lost

Glasgow is far from the poorest part of Scotland (although it does have some of the most deprived areas of Scotland) and you forgot Republican North Lanarkshire voted YES as well

As for the rest of your nonsensical hyperbole where to begin, oh dear

[Gecko1978]

Strocky said:

Gecko1978 said:

You will recall the media circus that followed this debate and the fact the mood soured south of the border due to the negative Yes votes, threats made about defaulting on debt an kicking out trident etc and demanding share of the central bank.

The rest of the UK (read the big bit in the middle if you like) were often quoted in the press as saying they should go. This forum with its many volumes has many quotes to support that.

So again the SNP lost, a gap of 10% after years of shouting the message to anyone who would listen they still lost and lost in a big way bar dundee and glasgow (two poorest parts of Scotland I believe) the rest of the voters said no thanks.

Call me a child all you want but fact is under this gov't I have seen my business grow I am better off and doing well. Under the SNP's plans Scotland would have been a basket case. It makes me laugh really that people would vote for a party that would have seen them kicked out of Europe (which is not the same as asking in a referendum do you want to be in europe or are only scots allowed to have referendums). kicked out of NATO, loosing all major banks and thus create mass unemployment oh and not actually have a central bank or a currency lol.


Oh an just in case you missed it....you lost

Glasgow is far from the poorest part of Scotland (although it does have some of the most deprived areas of Scotland) and you forgot Republican North Lanarkshire voted YES as well

As for the rest of your nonsensical hyperbole where to begin, oh dear

What did I get it wrong did you win....oh no you lost

Did Banks in Scotland annouce they would move....yes

Did the oil price fall.......yes

Did Europe say they would not allow you to stay a member...yes (twice even tnhough SNP tried to hide it from voters)

Did BoE say no currency union....yes

So what did I get wrong......

facts are hard to dispute but that's nationalism for you reality does not matter just the dream.

[andymadmak]

arp1 said:

And look, big business is STILL leaving even though they said they wouldn't, so was it scaremongering or lies?

If big business is still leaving it is PRECISELY because of the antics of the SNP and the 45%ers after the referendum. You lot went from saying you would accept the settled will of the people for at least a generation to talking about having a new referendum in the near future. Neverendum is it not?

Do you really have so little grasp of how business investment decisions are made? Do you not see that for any business with the majority of its customers south of the border it would be utter madness to invest in or make plans to remain in Scotland whilst the long term position of Scotland within the Union remains uncertain?
Why would you expect business to gamble in this way?

I am genuinely at a loss to understand how you can twist it such that the damage that you and those like you wreak upon the Scottish economy by your continued clamour for independence can somehow be evidence that you were right in your assertions prior to the referendum!

[Welshbeef]

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

McWigglebum4th said:

And Cameron the English tory still beat the true scots

Aren't you a bunch of useless idiots


Beaten by an inbred Tory toff

Your religion must suck

Nope Labour/Gordon Brown won it for the Union by persuading enough Labour voters to vote NO, however that's backfired spectacularly on them since

Thankfully the Tories behaviour since has done more to advance independence than the SNP could ever dream of

So you were beaten by a mentally disabled one eyed idiot

What on earth have the Tories done since to enrage you?
Huge investment in the form of reduced corporation tax for North Sea oil, delivering word for word the Vow, reducing poverty by increasing the level which income tax starts. Highest growth in the G7 record employment and of the 2million new jobs only 1 in 50 are zero hours.

Struggling to understand WHAT they have done to enrage?