Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

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McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

203 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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Strocky said:
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
And look, big business is STILL leaving even though they said they wouldn't, so was it scaremongering or lies?
So you are driving away business today


What would it be like if you had won


and


And what advantage is there to YOU for that voice to be friendly to england


If the SNP can make keeping scotland a MASSIVE vote loser in england what party will support keeping scotland in the 2018 independence referendum?



Of course you will not answer this as you know i speak the truth
It's the SNP long term strategy, fortunately for them, your average Little Englander is too thick to see the trap
So you admit it is SNP policy to ps off the english and big business making scotland unwanted by everyone so you can get your freedom


And you wonder why i call you a bunch of destructive little s?

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
Strocky said:
The plain fact is that the UK debt has nearly doubled to £1.5Tn under the current stewardship, we used to laugh at Banana Republics and their hyper inflation, quantitative easing has set us on the same road long term
And the SNP say the way to solve this is an extra 180 billion spending
The SNP aren't campaigning on the basis of being a safe pair of hands on the economy and that their plan worked, when it's patently hasn't

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
McWigglebum4th said:
Strocky said:
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
And look, big business is STILL leaving even though they said they wouldn't, so was it scaremongering or lies?
So you are driving away business today


What would it be like if you had won


and


And what advantage is there to YOU for that voice to be friendly to england


If the SNP can make keeping scotland a MASSIVE vote loser in england what party will support keeping scotland in the 2018 independence referendum?



Of course you will not answer this as you know i speak the truth
It's the SNP long term strategy, fortunately for them, your average Little Englander is too thick to see the trap
So you admit it is SNP policy to ps off the english and big business making scotland unwanted by everyone so you can get your freedom


And you wonder why i call you a bunch of destructive little s?
Is that you just working that one out for yourself Wiggles? eek

In other breaking news, the sun is burny laugh

And it's a strategy, not a policy (and a successful one at that presently)

simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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You seem to be genuinely proud of the fact that the SNP are burning Scotland's reputation and relationships. Not sure if serious.

///ajd

8,964 posts

205 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
Strocky said:
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
And look, big business is STILL leaving even though they said they wouldn't, so was it scaremongering or lies?
So you are driving away business today


What would it be like if you had won


and


And what advantage is there to YOU for that voice to be friendly to england


If the SNP can make keeping scotland a MASSIVE vote loser in england what party will support keeping scotland in the 2018 independence referendum?



Of course you will not answer this as you know i speak the truth
It's the SNP long term strategy, fortunately for them, your average Little Englander is too thick to see the trap
Ah, at last, a confession.

Many on here have pointed out Scots should not vote for the SNP unless they want to break the union. You have just fully confirmed that is the case. All the statements about voting SNP not just being about independence can now be firmly undermined by your admission above.

I'm not sure what little Englanders voting for the SNP has got to do with this - do you think the SNP has many MP candidates in England? Which constituencies are these in, can you clarify?

The trap is for scots who want to stay in the union but are hoodwinked by the SNP to vote for them (sure we'll respect the outcome of the referendum...)

simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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I think the crux of the matter is that the SNP masquerade as a positive "pro Scottish" movement, when they are in fact an anti UK party. Their "progressive good guys" act will slip soon enough.

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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simoid said:
You seem to be genuinely proud of the fact that the SNP are burning Scotland's reputation and relationships. Not sure if serious.
Pragmatic, not proud wink

When Independence comes, it will be raw but rUK and an IS will need to get on economically, it's a simple fact

blinkythefish

972 posts

256 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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Strocky said:
Reduced corporation tax only recently as a panic measure because the oil price has dropped and increased supplementary charge since the ConDems took power


At the risk of posting this for about the 5th time on this thread the vow was an fluff piece of propaganda by the Daily Record and not a binding contract or what was put in front of the Smith Commission to pass parliament, the Smith Commission so far has stuck to it's timetable (a timetable described as rushed by constitutional experts) and has still to pass the House of Commons and the House of Lords before it becomes enacted in law

The use of Zero Hour contracts have exploded since the Condems took power and are nothing to crow about
https://fullfact.org/factcheck/economy/zero_hour_c...

The plain fact is that the UK debt has nearly doubled to £1.5Tn under the current stewardship, we used to laugh at Banana Republics and their hyper inflation, quantitative easing has set us on the same road long term
Did you actually read your link?

Strocky said:
The use of Zero Hour contracts have exploded since the Condems took power and are nothing to crow about
Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do not and cannot show an “epidemic” in zero hours contracts.

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
///ajd said:
Strocky said:
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
And look, big business is STILL leaving even though they said they wouldn't, so was it scaremongering or lies?
So you are driving away business today


What would it be like if you had won


and


And what advantage is there to YOU for that voice to be friendly to england


If the SNP can make keeping scotland a MASSIVE vote loser in england what party will support keeping scotland in the 2018 independence referendum?



Of course you will not answer this as you know i speak the truth
It's the SNP long term strategy, fortunately for them, your average Little Englander is too thick to see the trap
Ah, at last, a confession.

Many on here have pointed out Scots should not vote for the SNP unless they want to break the union. You have just fully confirmed that is the case. All the statements about voting SNP not just being about independence can now be firmly undermined by your admission above.

I'm not sure what little Englanders voting for the SNP has got to do with this - do you think the SNP has many MP candidates in England? Which constituencies are these in, can you clarify?

The trap is for scots who want to stay in the union but are hoodwinked by the SNP to vote for them (sure we'll respect the outcome of the referendum...)
No confession, just pointing out the bloody obvious, the Tories thought they could be smart enough to crush the nationalist movement and by getting Labour to do the dirty work also fk Labour in the UK GE for the foreseeable, unfortunately for them it's not quite worked out that way has it

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
blinkythefish said:
Strocky said:
Did you read actually your link?

Strocky said:
The use of Zero Hour contracts have exploded since the Condems took power and are nothing to crow about
Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do not and cannot show an “epidemic” in zero hours contracts.
Common sense tells you that they have no matter what terminology you wish to use

blinkythefish

972 posts

256 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
Strocky said:
blinkythefish said:
Strocky said:
Did you read actually your link?

Strocky said:
The use of Zero Hour contracts have exploded since the Condems took power and are nothing to crow about
Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do not and cannot show an “epidemic” in zero hours contracts.
Common sense tells you that they have no matter what terminology you wish to use
Common sense says "don't post a link to something that categorically states the opposite of your claim", so I'll take your interpretation of common sense under advisement.......

simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
Strocky said:
blinkythefish said:
Strocky said:
Did you read actually your link?

Strocky said:
The use of Zero Hour contracts have exploded since the Condems took power and are nothing to crow about
Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do not and cannot show an “epidemic” in zero hours contracts.
Common sense tells you that they have no matter what terminology you wish to use
So? fk all wrong with zero hours contracts.

blinkythefish

972 posts

256 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
simoid said:
Strocky said:
blinkythefish said:
Strocky said:
Did you read actually your link?

Strocky said:
The use of Zero Hour contracts have exploded since the Condems took power and are nothing to crow about
Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do not and cannot show an “epidemic” in zero hours contracts.
Common sense tells you that they have no matter what terminology you wish to use
So? fk all wrong with zero hours contracts.
I'm guessing he also missed the second bullet in his link:

Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do show that 66% of people on zero hours contracts fall in the category of ‘does not want more hours’. The statistics alone do not show that everybody on zero hours contracts, or even a majority of them, are dissatisfied.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

203 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
Strocky said:
No confession, just pointing out the bloody obvious, the Tories thought they could be smart enough to crush the nationalist movement and by getting Labour to do the dirty work also fk Labour in the UK GE for the foreseeable, unfortunately for them it's not quite worked out that way has it
Yes its fking obvious that you fking s want to wreck scotland so you can wave your flags and paint your fking faces

A vote for the SNP is a vote to make scotland poorer


So as someone who doesn't work in an industry producing flags or face paint

Why the fk should i vote SNP?

simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
Strocky said:
Pragmatic, not proud wink

When Independence comes, it will be raw but rUK and an IS will need to get on economically, it's a simple fact
When independence comes we'll be dead. Once in a lifetime opportunity wasn't it?

I'd say Scotland needs the UK's cooperation far more than the UK needs Scotland's. Scary stuff.

simoid

19,772 posts

157 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
blinkythefish said:
simoid said:
Strocky said:
blinkythefish said:
Strocky said:
Did you read actually your link?

Strocky said:
The use of Zero Hour contracts have exploded since the Condems took power and are nothing to crow about
Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do not and cannot show an “epidemic” in zero hours contracts.
Common sense tells you that they have no matter what terminology you wish to use
So? fk all wrong with zero hours contracts.
I'm guessing he also missed the second bullet in his link of his post:

Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do show that 66% of people on zero hours contracts fall in the category of ‘does not want more hours’. The statistics alone do not show that everybody on zero hours contracts, or even a majority of them, are dissatisfied.
Indeed they are more likely to be happy with their work:life balance than other workers.

http://discover.ukdataservice.ac.uk/catalogue/?sn=...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25098984

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
McWigglebum4th said:
Strocky said:
No confession, just pointing out the bloody obvious, the Tories thought they could be smart enough to crush the nationalist movement and by getting Labour to do the dirty work also fk Labour in the UK GE for the foreseeable, unfortunately for them it's not quite worked out that way has it
Yes its fking obvious that you fking s want to wreck scotland so you can wave your flags and paint your fking faces

A vote for the SNP is a vote to make scotland poorer


So as someone who doesn't work in an industry producing flags or face paint

Why the fk should i vote SNP?
So much hate, are you related to this charming fellow, Wiggles?

https://twitter.com/journogolfhist

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
quotequote all
simoid said:
Strocky said:
blinkythefish said:
Strocky said:
Did you read actually your link?

Strocky said:
The use of Zero Hour contracts have exploded since the Condems took power and are nothing to crow about
Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do not and cannot show an “epidemic” in zero hours contracts.
Common sense tells you that they have no matter what terminology you wish to use
So? fk all wrong with zero hours contracts.
So you'd be happy to work on a text by text basis?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

203 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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Strocky said:
So much hate, are you related to this charming fellow, Wiggles?
Yes i fking loath scottish nationalists

Does it show?

Strocky

2,629 posts

112 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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blinkythefish said:
simoid said:
Strocky said:
blinkythefish said:
Strocky said:
Did you read actually your link?

Strocky said:
The use of Zero Hour contracts have exploded since the Condems took power and are nothing to crow about
Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do not and cannot show an “epidemic” in zero hours contracts.
Common sense tells you that they have no matter what terminology you wish to use
So? fk all wrong with zero hours contracts.
I'm guessing he also missed the second bullet in his link:

Link provided by Strocky said:
The statistics do show that 66% of people on zero hours contracts fall in the category of ‘does not want more hours’. The statistics alone do not show that everybody on zero hours contracts, or even a majority of them, are dissatisfied.
So the statistics that cant be measured accurately (according to the link) are now held up as an absolute truth based on even one person not being dissatisfied never mind a majority?

Also looks like the site isn't as neutral as it would like to make out

http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/faux-facts-disturb...

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