Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

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AstonZagato

12,704 posts

210 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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arp1 said:
The lies that were said during the referendum are coming true anyway (e.g businesses staying in scotland if voted no) so don't believe a thing this time around.
Not sure what you are saying.

"Lies...coming true". So they weren't lies, they were true? So the Better Together campaign didn't lie (glad you have come to realise that).

"Businesses staying in Scotland if voted no". Er, the vote was a resounding no. So they would stay.

Whatever you did mean, just remember: "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."


McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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arp1 said:
McWigglebum4th said:
MissChief said:
I may have voted 'no' in the referendum but will certainly be voting SNP in the election. Any 'english' party doesn't give a stuff about Scotland and cares more about their buddies running businesses.
If you want to see businesses leaving Scotland then vote SNP

I cannot argue with that logic
Ah yes, similar scaremongering stories that we heard during the referendum... Change the record please smile
Do you regard businesses as the enemy of the scottish people?

Do you belive we will be better without business?

Will you answer my earlier point?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
You REALLY do want to run this country down and to hell with the consequences eh?
No you appear to of mistaken me for the SNP


The SNP want the country to go down the stter as then they can blame the english and win independence


I want scotland to succeed
I want scotland to attract investment
I want scotland to get richer
I want scotland to be welcoming to big business and wealthy individuals
I want to see more people working in scotland



Tell me


Do you want to see more people getting richer and more secure so they don't want independence


I voted NO because i am well off and have a nice secure job, most NO voting scum like myself voted NO for very similar reasons
BUMP

just for arp1

Wombat3

12,162 posts

206 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Edinburger said:
And you lot wonder why so few people contribute to this thread regularly rolleyes
That's an easy one to answer , after turning up to a gunfight several times armed with little more than a plastic spoon and a pack of invented lies, even your average Nat manages to figure out that if he comes round again spouting the same old bullst and lies its highly probable that he's going to get battered - yet again!

(At which point he heads off to read Morons over Bath or whatever its called.)

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Who cares

Sturgeon is saying they will deliver a referendum in the next 5 years if the scottish people want it


Scottish nationalists


Go fk yourselves with your screams of settled will

Hainey

4,381 posts

200 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
Who cares

Sturgeon is saying they will deliver a referendum in the next 5 years if the scottish people want it


Scottish nationalists


Go fk yourselves with your screams of settled will
It'll be a horrible event if they do have another referendum. The last one was bad enough, if there is a next time I honestly wouldn't be surprised by blood in the streets.

If they get it, I'm pretty sure I'll be leaving.

Funk

26,277 posts

209 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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MissChief said:
I may have voted 'no' in the referendum but will certainly be voting SNP in the election. Any 'english' party doesn't give a stuff about Scotland and cares more about their buddies running businesses.
And this is why Scotland is stuffed. You're voting in a party whose sole aim is to move you toward the very thing you voted 'no' to.

Can you not see the irony? Everything the SNP do is designed to make people more dependent on the state and to move your country toward independence, along with all the uncertainty, chaos and nasty jingoism that entails.

Can you also not see the irony of voting for a party which doesn't give a stuff about England, NI and Wales? Either we're a united kingdom or we're not. Please decide and stop dicking the rest of us about and let us get on with trying to create growth and prosperity for those members who actually want to be part of it.

Edited by Funk on Monday 20th April 10:21

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Wombat3 said:
That's an easy one to answer , after turning up to a gunfight several times armed with little more than a plastic spoon and a pack of invented lies, even your average Nat manages to figure out that if he comes round again spouting the same old bullst and lies its highly probable that he's going to get battered - yet again!

(At which point he heads off to read Morons over Bath or whatever its called.)
rofl

arp1

583 posts

127 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
You REALLY do want to run this country down and to hell with the consequences eh?
No you appear to of mistaken me for the SNP


The SNP want the country to go down the stter as then they can blame the english and win independence


I want scotland to succeed
I want scotland to attract investment
I want scotland to get richer
I want scotland to be welcoming to big business and wealthy individuals
I want to see more people working in scotland



Tell me


Do you want to see more people getting richer and more secure so they don't want independence


I voted NO because i am well off and have a nice secure job, most NO voting scum like myself voted NO for very similar reasons
BUMP

just for arp1
Who's to say independence wouldn't make people more well off? There are many views on the matter and clearly it is a difference of opinion and the 'I'm alright jacks' of the world...

arp1

583 posts

127 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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AstonZagato said:
arp1 said:
The lies that were said during the referendum are coming true anyway (e.g businesses staying in scotland if voted no) so don't believe a thing this time around.
Not sure what you are saying.

"Lies...coming true". So they weren't lies, they were true? So the Better Together campaign didn't lie (glad you have come to realise that).

"Businesses staying in Scotland if voted no". Er, the vote was a resounding no. So they would stay.

Whatever you did mean, just remember: "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."
Businesses that said they would invest and stay in scotland post no vote have been found out to be lies

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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arp1 said:
McWigglebum4th said:
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
You REALLY do want to run this country down and to hell with the consequences eh?
No you appear to of mistaken me for the SNP


The SNP want the country to go down the stter as then they can blame the english and win independence


I want scotland to succeed
I want scotland to attract investment
I want scotland to get richer
I want scotland to be welcoming to big business and wealthy individuals
I want to see more people working in scotland



Tell me


Do you want to see more people getting richer and more secure so they don't want independence


I voted NO because i am well off and have a nice secure job, most NO voting scum like myself voted NO for very similar reasons
BUMP

just for arp1
Who's to say independence wouldn't make people more well off? There are many views on the matter and clearly it is a difference of opinion and the 'I'm alright jacks' of the world...
you haven't answered my question

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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arp1 said:
Businesses that said they would invest and stay in scotland post no vote have been found out to be lies
And we have sturgeon saying a referendum within 5 years if the scottish people ask for it


Once in a lifetime vote?



fking bull

You s will keep going until you win

4v6

1,098 posts

126 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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When do the english get to have a referendum on whether or not to kick the scots out of the union?

Or are we an irrelevent bunch now down here, only fit to keep on sending money north of the border for them to run their own affairs whilst still interefering in ours?

I reckon theres quite a few Mps who interefered in scotlands referndum to get a No vote who right about now wished they hadnt.
Talk about being hoisted by ones petard.
They never saw the law of unintentended consequences handing control of the uk to the SNP... irony is delicious.

barryrs

4,390 posts

223 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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arp1 said:
Businesses that said they would invest and stay in scotland post no vote have been found out to be lies
Had the "settled will" of the Scottish people been respected then investment would have been forthcoming however the neverendum has left Scotland in limbo.


MissChief

7,111 posts

168 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Funk said:
MissChief said:
I may have voted 'no' in the referendum but will certainly be voting SNP in the election. Any 'english' party doesn't give a stuff about Scotland and cares more about their buddies running businesses.
And this is why Scotland is stuffed. You're voting in a party whose sole aim is to move you toward the very thing you voted 'no' to.

Can you not see the irony? Everything the SNP do is designed to make people more dependent on the state and to move your country toward independence, along with all the uncertainty, chaos and nasty jingoism that entails.

Can you also not see the irony of voting for a party which doesn't give a stuff about England, NI and Wales? Either we're a united kingdom or we're not. Please decide and stop dicking the rest of us about and let us get on with trying to create growth and prosperity for those members who actually want to be part of it.

Edited by Funk on Monday 20th April 10:21
You know it IS possible to vote for the SNP but NOT support devolution?

Funk

26,277 posts

209 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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4v6 said:
When do the english get to have a referendum on whether or not to kick the scots out of the union?

Or are we an irrelevent bunch now down here, only fit to keep on sending money north of the border for them to run their own affairs whilst still interefering in ours?

I reckon theres quite a few Mps who interefered in scotlands referndum to get a No vote who right about now wished they hadnt.
Talk about being hoisted by ones petard.
They never saw the law of unintentended consequences handing control of the uk to the SNP... irony is delicious.
I think that if we end up with Labour/SNP then the demand for this will grow and grow.

It's unfortunate that most Scots don't want to leave but if they keep voting in a party whose sole intention is disruption, self-interest and departure from the UK then they're bringing it on themselves.

The ONLY way to put this to bed is for the SNP to be voted out. Scotland seems to be talking out of both sides of its mouth; it's ok to vote for a nationalist party who want to win everything for Scotland and stuff the English, yet the second the English make noises about acting in our own interests (and frankly, only in response to the moves made by the SNP) we're racist bds.

Pre-indy vote I wanted Scotland to stay, I had no issue whatsoever with how things worked. Fast-forward a couple of years and I now feel that England is abused and taken advantage of financially and all whilst being accused of trying to 'screw Scotland over'.

Time to pull down the shutters on Scotland methinks, especially if they continue to vote in the SNP. Let them go it alone and work it out for themselves.

MissChief said:
Funk said:
MissChief said:
I may have voted 'no' in the referendum but will certainly be voting SNP in the election. Any 'english' party doesn't give a stuff about Scotland and cares more about their buddies running businesses.
And this is why Scotland is stuffed. You're voting in a party whose sole aim is to move you toward the very thing you voted 'no' to.

Can you not see the irony? Everything the SNP do is designed to make people more dependent on the state and to move your country toward independence, along with all the uncertainty, chaos and nasty jingoism that entails.

Can you also not see the irony of voting for a party which doesn't give a stuff about England, NI and Wales? Either we're a united kingdom or we're not. Please decide and stop dicking the rest of us about and let us get on with trying to create growth and prosperity for those members who actually want to be part of it.

Edited by Funk on Monday 20th April 10:21
You know it IS possible to vote for the SNP but NOT support devolution?
Absolutely - if you want a party in charge whose sole objective is the breakup of the Union (which you've already stated you don't want). Can you not see how ridiculous that is?

Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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OpulentBob said:
Strocky said:
Thanks for the reply, some decent points even though I disagree with most of them and a very English polite fk off at the end biggrin



Edited by Strocky on Friday 17th April 10:29
Yep, fk off. You lot deserve it. It's far less harsh language than half the ste you fking nat nesbits were screaming, red-faced and spit-spraying in the streets of glasgae at anyone who dared speak out against independence.
Like these charming fellows or does that not fit the propaganda of the BT narrative?

https://youtu.be/YQIN7UAfLBo



simoid

19,772 posts

158 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Funk said:
Absolutely - if you want a party in charge whose sole objective is the breakup of the Union (which you've already stated you don't want). Can you not see how ridiculous that is?
The majority of voters in Scotland have always rejected the SNP, so the premise that we keep voting for them is misguided. They are a large minority.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Strocky said:
Like these charming fellows or does that not fit the propaganda of the BT narrative?

https://youtu.be/YQIN7UAfLBo
Yep that is rumbled

All us english s must now go kill ourselves

As no nationalists has ever done something similar


Strocky

2,642 posts

113 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
You REALLY do want to run this country down and to hell with the consequences eh?
No you appear to of mistaken me for the SNP


The SNP want the country to go down the stter as then they can blame the english and win independence


I want scotland to succeed
I want scotland to attract investment
I want scotland to get richer
I want scotland to be welcoming to big business and wealthy individuals
I want to see more people working in scotland



Tell me


Do you want to see more people getting richer and more secure so they don't want independence


I voted NO because i am well off and have a nice secure job, most NO voting scum like myself voted NO for very similar reasons
So you think trickle down economics is successful?

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