Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6
Discussion
MissChief said:
Funk said:
MissChief said:
I may have voted 'no' in the referendum but will certainly be voting SNP in the election. Any 'english' party doesn't give a stuff about Scotland and cares more about their buddies running businesses.
And this is why Scotland is stuffed. You're voting in a party whose sole aim is to move you toward the very thing you voted 'no' to.Can you not see the irony? Everything the SNP do is designed to make people more dependent on the state and to move your country toward independence, along with all the uncertainty, chaos and nasty jingoism that entails.
Can you also not see the irony of voting for a party which doesn't give a stuff about England, NI and Wales? Either we're a united kingdom or we're not. Please decide and stop dicking the rest of us about and let us get on with trying to create growth and prosperity for those members who actually want to be part of it.
Edited by Funk on Monday 20th April 10:21
MissChief said:
Funk said:
MissChief said:
I may have voted 'no' in the referendum but will certainly be voting SNP in the election. Any 'english' party doesn't give a stuff about Scotland and cares more about their buddies running businesses.
And this is why Scotland is stuffed. You're voting in a party whose sole aim is to move you toward the very thing you voted 'no' to.Can you not see the irony? Everything the SNP do is designed to make people more dependent on the state and to move your country toward independence, along with all the uncertainty, chaos and nasty jingoism that entails.
Can you also not see the irony of voting for a party which doesn't give a stuff about England, NI and Wales? Either we're a united kingdom or we're not. Please decide and stop dicking the rest of us about and let us get on with trying to create growth and prosperity for those members who actually want to be part of it.
Edited by Funk on Monday 20th April 10:21
Voting for the SNP to be in power in Westminster is divisive. They care not one jot about the future of the country and political arrangement you voted to maintain. They only want to end it. As Fluffnik says, there was an opportunity to humanely end the union between Scotland and the rUK, but this has passed.
Now the SNP want to slowly torture it before bludgeoning it to death so they can break free.
All the while, they pretend to care about The Poor, despite bringing in policy after policy that harms the lowest earners and gives the more affluent a hand:
- free tuition fees is mostly a middle class tax cut and isn't helping poorer students
- council tax freeze is a tax cut for millionaires, while councils cut services for the lowest earners
- free prescriptions is a tax cut for all
///ajd said:
The ultimate irony is that nicola is just as bad - if not worse - than the fat cat bankers.
She sells false dreams of wealth and fairness whilst having no intention of doing anything about it. Fuelled by nationalist nonsense, she gets her bankers salary (salary is higher than cameron ffs for running a tin pot council for less than a tenth of the population), by selling the gullible these lies. And they fall for it as demonstrated here.
She is scamming the IQ45ers just like a cowboy builder with the gift of the gab. Poor Scotland.
Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake She sells false dreams of wealth and fairness whilst having no intention of doing anything about it. Fuelled by nationalist nonsense, she gets her bankers salary (salary is higher than cameron ffs for running a tin pot council for less than a tenth of the population), by selling the gullible these lies. And they fall for it as demonstrated here.
She is scamming the IQ45ers just like a cowboy builder with the gift of the gab. Poor Scotland.
barryrs said:
MissChief said:
I may have voted 'no' in the referendum but will certainly be voting SNP in the election. Any 'english' party doesn't give a stuff about Scotland and cares more about their buddies running businesses.
Don't suppose you could tell me which English party is running in Scotland?As an Englishman living in Somerset I'm unable to vote for a Scottish party.
Wombat3 said:
MissChief said:
I may have voted 'no' in the referendum but will certainly be voting SNP in the election. Any 'english' party doesn't give a stuff about Scotland and cares more about their buddies running businesses.
Risible garbage. You seem to be yet another one who doesn't understand that there is no such thing as government money , no free money or that that there is no magic money tree down the end of the glen either.....and FFS, put your victim card away!
The vast majority of people that earn more than you are more than likely
a) harder working than you or
b) more talented than you or
c) smarter than you
Or some combination of all three.
What is far less likely is that they are just "lucky" or in some way "favoured"
Fortunately for you such people (and businesses)pay a huge amount of tax to fund the government (which still manages to spend even more still). Said government then spends a disproportionate amount of that money (per head of population) in Scotland. The amount of tax being extracted from the highest earners has also never been higher. See also "the Laffer curve" and be careful not to bite the hand that feeds you (us).
Scotland does very nicely out of being part of the Union, it receives far greater amounts of public spending per head than almost anywhere else. In cash terms by far the largest amount of that money is generated in London and the south east - so God help you if the part of the country that really earns the money and also contains a far greater percentage of the population (than is in Scotland) ever turns round & tells you to "do one".
They tick box a,b & c and contribute what to the UK magic money tree other than campaign donations to the Conservative party?
Strocky said:
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
You REALLY do want to run this country down and to hell with the consequences eh?
No you appear to of mistaken me for the SNPThe SNP want the country to go down the s
tter as then they can blame the english and win independenceI want scotland to succeed
I want scotland to attract investment
I want scotland to get richer
I want scotland to be welcoming to big business and wealthy individuals
I want to see more people working in scotland
Tell me
Do you want to see more people getting richer and more secure so they don't want independence
I voted NO because i am well off and have a nice secure job, most NO voting scum like myself voted NO for very similar reasons
McWigglebum4th said:
MissChief said:
I may have voted 'no' in the referendum but will certainly be voting SNP in the election. Any 'english' party doesn't give a stuff about Scotland and cares more about their buddies running businesses.
If you want to see businesses leaving Scotland then vote SNPI cannot argue with that logic
Strocky said:
Wombat3 said:
MissChief said:
I may have voted 'no' in the referendum but will certainly be voting SNP in the election. Any 'english' party doesn't give a stuff about Scotland and cares more about their buddies running businesses.
Risible garbage. You seem to be yet another one who doesn't understand that there is no such thing as government money , no free money or that that there is no magic money tree down the end of the glen either.....and FFS, put your victim card away!
The vast majority of people that earn more than you are more than likely
a) harder working than you or
b) more talented than you or
c) smarter than you
Or some combination of all three.
What is far less likely is that they are just "lucky" or in some way "favoured"
Fortunately for you such people (and businesses)pay a huge amount of tax to fund the government (which still manages to spend even more still). Said government then spends a disproportionate amount of that money (per head of population) in Scotland. The amount of tax being extracted from the highest earners has also never been higher. See also "the Laffer curve" and be careful not to bite the hand that feeds you (us).
Scotland does very nicely out of being part of the Union, it receives far greater amounts of public spending per head than almost anywhere else. In cash terms by far the largest amount of that money is generated in London and the south east - so God help you if the part of the country that really earns the money and also contains a far greater percentage of the population (than is in Scotland) ever turns round & tells you to "do one".
They tick box a,b & c and contribute what to the UK magic money tree other than campaign donations to the Conservative party?
(Plastic spoon, must try harder)
McWigglebum4th said:
AstonZagato said:
James Naughtie will be off the SNP's Christmas card list after today.
He had the temerity to ask John Swinney the same question ("will you force another election over Trident if you don't get your way?") repeatedly. He then pointed out that not only was he not answering the question but was also trying to mislead people on the 5 year fixed term (Swinney was suggesting it wasn't legally possible for the government to fall).
At least James won't get hate messages because the knuckle-draggers don't listen to the Today programme because it requires rational thought of its listeners and contributors.
The brownkilts will be listening and recording itHe had the temerity to ask John Swinney the same question ("will you force another election over Trident if you don't get your way?") repeatedly. He then pointed out that not only was he not answering the question but was also trying to mislead people on the 5 year fixed term (Swinney was suggesting it wasn't legally possible for the government to fall).
At least James won't get hate messages because the knuckle-draggers don't listen to the Today programme because it requires rational thought of its listeners and contributors.
McWigglebum4th said:
arp1 said:
Businesses that said they would invest and stay in scotland post no vote have been found out to be lies
And we have sturgeon saying a referendum within 5 years if the scottish people ask for itOnce in a lifetime vote?
f
king bullYou
s will keep going until you win
simoid said:
Funk said:
Absolutely - if you want a party in charge whose sole objective is the breakup of the Union (which you've already stated you don't want). Can you not see how ridiculous that is?
The majority of voters in Scotland have always rejected the SNP, so the premise that we keep voting for them is misguided. They are a large minority.simoid said:
What's the story there Barry?
Guam posted the link the the previous page. - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3046335/...Mail said:
The Scottish Nasty Party and how its growing intimidation and intolerance of dissent reeks of fascism
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