Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

I never add personal opinions? You know that's not true, simoid.

I'll be happy to amend my statement to "rarely" if you can quote an instance where you have provided your personal insight or analysis on the referendum.

You're joking, right?

No. I don't think you ever offer personal insight.

You're avoiding the opportunity to provide some personal insight just now, right?

Then I suggest you spend some time looking up the many posts I've made on PH and deciding for yourself.

Not that I care what you think about my posting style!

I read the vast majority of posts on this thread and therefore the vast majority of yours here. I'm sorry to say don't think I've ever learnt anything from your insights.

[Axionknight]

Edinburger said:

Strocky said:

Latest Scottish Westminster Polling - TNS
SNP 54% (+2)
Labour 22% (-2)
Conservatives 13% (0)
LibDems 6% (0)

Can't see it myself but would be a seismic shift up here

Sounds in line with what other polls are showing.

Not far off the others at all from what I have seen. I think the SNPs final count will be mid 40's though - no science to back that up, just a hunch.

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

Those aren't "reasons"! They're an insight into Wiggley's warped view of the world.

Other genuine reasons for voting Yes could be as follows:

1. To enable decisions about Scotland to be made by the people of Scotland in Scotland
2. To use the natural resources of Scotland to improve the quality of life in Scotland
3. To remove Trident
4. To not get involved in wars which don't concern us
5. To manage our own international affairs
6. To have parties governing Scotland who attract a majority vote in Scotland

Those aren't my personal views but they are some of the reasons for which many people votes Yes.

I've shared my own vote and the reason for that earlier in this thread.

1. Morons - we're as free as we could be at present. Independence would mean decisions made by EU, our financial backers, following whatever the UK did, etc. We also spend much more than we tax. Easy life.
2. Morons - they are at present.
3. Morons/anti English - if the english wanted to scrap trident the snp would call it a disgrace to Scotland and call for the jobs to be replaced. Also - nuclear weapons would always be welcome in Scotland as a member of NATO.
4. Nonsense - Scots voted for the politicians that took us into those wars and even the SNP wanted boots in the ground in (Syria and/or Libya was it?)
5. By joining the EU on the EU terms? There's an example of "it's st, but at least it's Scottish st".
6. Daft reason again, that would be a reason for every constituency in Scotland to go independent if they didn't have a government MP, then every street, then every house. Divide and rule bullst.

So, I think Wiggley did cover them all.

Christ it's been only 7 months since the referendum and I think much of the world has forgotten how big an omnishambles the Yes campaign was.

[Edinburger]

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Here's an opportunity for some personal insight on a historical matter, Edinburger. "In your opinion", what other possible reason was there for voting yes, not included below?

McWigglebum4th said:

And the reason 1.6million voted YES despite the obvious lies from the SNP i put down to the following factors

1 Being morons
2 Hating the English
3 Believing the lies that everything wrong in there life was the fault of those to the south (or is that UKIP voters)
4 Hating the 2 main parties in westminster and grasping any straw to get rid of them (or is that UKIP voters)
5 A deep rooted desire for independence of scotland even if it would wreck the economy and bring huge hardships to the poor
6 A belief that we are somehow better then others and we are being held back by them (or is that UKIP voters)

Those aren't "reasons"! They're an insight into Wiggley's warped view of the world.

Other genuine reasons for voting Yes could be as follows:

1. To enable decisions about Scotland to be made by the people of Scotland in Scotland Number 5
2. To use the natural resources of Scotland to improve the quality of life in Scotland forgot we will all be rich argument
3. To remove Trident I'll give you that one
4. To not get involved in wars which don't concern us Number 6
5. To manage our own international affairs Number 5
6. To have parties governing Scotland who attract a majority vote in Scotland Number 5

Those aren't my personal views but they are some of the reasons for which many people votes Yes.

I've shared my own vote and the reason for that earlier in this thread.

You're funny.

[Edinburger]

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

Strocky said:

Latest Scottish Westminster Polling - TNS
SNP 54% (+2)
Labour 22% (-2)
Conservatives 13% (0)
LibDems 6% (0)

Can't see it myself but would be a seismic shift up here

Sounds in line with what other polls are showing.

Independence before 2020

Almost fking certain

I can't see it happening in the next fifty years.

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

I never add personal opinions? You know that's not true, simoid.

I'll be happy to amend my statement to "rarely" if you can quote an instance where you have provided your personal insight or analysis on the referendum.

You're joking, right?

No. I don't think you ever offer personal insight.

You're avoiding the opportunity to provide some personal insight just now, right?

Then I suggest you spend some time looking up the many posts I've made on PH and deciding for yourself.

Not that I care what you think about my posting style!

I read the vast majority of posts on this thread and therefore the vast majority of yours here. I'm sorry to say don't think I've ever learnt anything from your insights.

Fair enough. I never set out to be a teacher.

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

Fair enough. I never set out to be a teacher.

Lol.

Why are you here?

[Edinburger]

Axionknight said:

Edinburger said:

Strocky said:

Latest Scottish Westminster Polling - TNS
SNP 54% (+2)
Labour 22% (-2)
Conservatives 13% (0)
LibDems 6% (0)

Can't see it myself but would be a seismic shift up here

Sounds in line with what other polls are showing.

Not far off the others at all from what I have seen. I think the SNPs final count will be mid 40's though - no science to back that up, just a hunch.

You know what, I agree with you.

I can see Scotland's vote in the region of:

SNP - 40%
Labour - 20%
Conservative - 20%
LibDem - 5%
The rest - 15%

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

Fair enough. I never set out to be a teacher.

Lol.

Why are you here?

I take more than I give in PH.

Why? To learn, to laugh, to understand other people's points of view.

[Edinburger]

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

Those aren't "reasons"! They're an insight into Wiggley's warped view of the world.

Other genuine reasons for voting Yes could be as follows:

1. To enable decisions about Scotland to be made by the people of Scotland in Scotland
2. To use the natural resources of Scotland to improve the quality of life in Scotland
3. To remove Trident
4. To not get involved in wars which don't concern us
5. To manage our own international affairs
6. To have parties governing Scotland who attract a majority vote in Scotland

Those aren't my personal views but they are some of the reasons for which many people votes Yes.

I've shared my own vote and the reason for that earlier in this thread.

1. Morons - we're as free as we could be at present. Independence would mean decisions made by EU, our financial backers, following whatever the UK did, etc. We also spend much more than we tax. Easy life.
2. Morons - they are at present.
3. Morons/anti English - if the english wanted to scrap trident the snp would call it a disgrace to Scotland and call for the jobs to be replaced. Also - nuclear weapons would always be welcome in Scotland as a member of NATO.
4. Nonsense - Scots voted for the politicians that took us into those wars and even the SNP wanted boots in the ground in (Syria and/or Libya was it?)
5. By joining the EU on the EU terms? There's an example of "it's st, but at least it's Scottish st".
6. Daft reason again, that would be a reason for every constituency in Scotland to go independent if they didn't have a government MP, then every street, then every house. Divide and rule bullst.

So, I think Wiggley did cover them all.

Christ it's been only 7 months since the referendum and I think much of the world has forgotten how big an omnishambles the Yes campaign was.

Remember that's your opinion. The great thing about living in the UK is that we're allowed to each have our own opinions.

[McWigglebum4th]

Edinburger said:

You know what, I agree with you.

I can see Scotland's vote in the region of:

SNP - 40%
Labour - 20%
Rich s who must be hung from a lamp post party - 20%
LibDem - 5%
The rest - 15%

Chances of the SNP dropping the call for PR after they get 90% of the MPs?

[Edinburger]

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

You know what, I agree with you.

I can see Scotland's vote in the region of:

SNP - 40%
Labour - 20%
Rich s who must be hung from a lamp post party - 20%
LibDem - 5%
The rest - 15%

Chances of the SNP dropping the call for PR after they get 90% of the MPs?

Nil.

[McWigglebum4th]

Edinburger said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

You know what, I agree with you.

I can see Scotland's vote in the region of:

SNP - 40%
Labour - 20%
Rich s who must be hung from a lamp post party - 20%
LibDem - 5%
The rest - 15%

Chances of the SNP dropping the call for PR after they get 90% of the MPs?

Nil.

Lets see how hard they push it when they hard millibrain by the balls

[Edinburger]

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

You know what, I agree with you.

I can see Scotland's vote in the region of:

SNP - 40%
Labour - 20%
Rich s who must be hung from a lamp post party - 20%
LibDem - 5%
The rest - 15%

Chances of the SNP dropping the call for PR after they get 90% of the MPs?

Nil.

Lets see how hard they push it when they hard millibrain by the balls

Let's see indeed.

[McWigglebum4th]

Edinburger said:

Let's see indeed.

We could end up almost a dozen Tory MPs

I wonder what nationalists think of that

10 times more tory MPs

[AstonZagato]

Edinburger said:

Remember that's your opinion. The great thing about living in the UK is that we're allowed to each have our own opinions.

Yes, that is one of the advantages of the UK. Something the Nationalists seem intent on removing to achieve independence, if the cybernats/campaign-bullies are anything to go by.

[McWigglebum4th]

Edinburger said:

Remember that's your opinion. The great thing about living in the UK is that we're allowed to each have our own opinions.

Are you an SNP member?

http://thebackbencher.co.uk/ominous-snp-adopts-new...



As you are breaking SNP rules by saying we won't be independent within 50 years

[Sway]

Edinburger said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

You know what, I agree with you.

I can see Scotland's vote in the region of:

SNP - 40%
Labour - 20%
Rich s who must be hung from a lamp post party - 20%
LibDem - 5%
The rest - 15%

Chances of the SNP dropping the call for PR after they get 90% of the MPs?

Nil.

Lets see how hard they push it when they hard millibrain by the balls

Let's see indeed.

There's a clear inversely proportional relationship between the level of desire for PR, and the number of seats won under FPTP...

I'll be staggered if that doesn't change this time round (more likely it'll morph into one of the halfway house versions of PR such as AV, a la Lib Dems).

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

Those aren't "reasons"! They're an insight into Wiggley's warped view of the world.

Other genuine reasons for voting Yes could be as follows:

1. To enable decisions about Scotland to be made by the people of Scotland in Scotland
2. To use the natural resources of Scotland to improve the quality of life in Scotland
3. To remove Trident
4. To not get involved in wars which don't concern us
5. To manage our own international affairs
6. To have parties governing Scotland who attract a majority vote in Scotland

Those aren't my personal views but they are some of the reasons for which many people votes Yes.

I've shared my own vote and the reason for that earlier in this thread.

1. Morons - we're as free as we could be at present. Independence would mean decisions made by EU, our financial backers, following whatever the UK did, etc. We also spend much more than we tax. Easy life.
2. Morons - they are at present.
3. Morons/anti English - if the english wanted to scrap trident the snp would call it a disgrace to Scotland and call for the jobs to be replaced. Also - nuclear weapons would always be welcome in Scotland as a member of NATO.
4. Nonsense - Scots voted for the politicians that took us into those wars and even the SNP wanted boots in the ground in (Syria and/or Libya was it?)
5. By joining the EU on the EU terms? There's an example of "it's st, but at least it's Scottish st".
6. Daft reason again, that would be a reason for every constituency in Scotland to go independent if they didn't have a government MP, then every street, then every house. Divide and rule bullst.

So, I think Wiggley did cover them all.

Christ it's been only 7 months since the referendum and I think much of the world has forgotten how big an omnishambles the Yes campaign was.

Remember that's your opinion. The great thing about living in the UK is that we're allowed to each have our own opinions.

I'm not sure I said anything that wasn't factually correct, or that anyone holding a different opinion couldn't be described as "wrong".

[simoid]

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Edinburger said:

Fair enough. I never set out to be a teacher.

Lol.

Why are you here?

I take more than I give in PH.

Why? To learn, to laugh, to understand other people's points of view.

Snap. That's why I find it frustrating when it takes various weeks to tease an answer out of someone - doesn't help me learn anything about their point of view.