Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

[Strocky]

Axionknight said:

Edinburger said:

Strocky said:

Latest Scottish Westminster Polling - TNS
SNP 54% (+2)
Labour 22% (-2)
Conservatives 13% (0)
LibDems 6% (0)

Can't see it myself but would be a seismic shift up here

Sounds in line with what other polls are showing.

Not far off the others at all from what I have seen. I think the SNPs final count will be mid 40's though - no science to back that up, just a hunch.

Think so myself, the amount of swing required from Labour to SNP in the Labour heartlands needs to be huge to win seats

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

Think so myself, the amount of swing required from Labour to SNP in the Labour heartlands needs to be huge to win seats

What is your views on PR?


Would you support all scottish MPs being selected that way?

[NoNeed]

Edinburger said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Edinburger said:

simoid said:

Here's an opportunity for some personal insight on a historical matter, Edinburger. "In your opinion", what other possible reason was there for voting yes, not included below?

McWigglebum4th said:

And the reason 1.6million voted YES despite the obvious lies from the SNP i put down to the following factors

1 Being morons
2 Hating the English
3 Believing the lies that everything wrong in there life was the fault of those to the south (or is that UKIP voters)
4 Hating the 2 main parties in westminster and grasping any straw to get rid of them (or is that UKIP voters)
5 A deep rooted desire for independence of scotland even if it would wreck the economy and bring huge hardships to the poor
6 A belief that we are somehow better then others and we are being held back by them (or is that UKIP voters)

Those aren't "reasons"! They're an insight into Wiggley's warped view of the world.

Other genuine reasons for voting Yes could be as follows:

1. To enable decisions about Scotland to be made by the people of Scotland in Scotland Number 5
2. To use the natural resources of Scotland to improve the quality of life in Scotland forgot we will all be rich argument
3. To remove Trident I'll give you that one
4. To not get involved in wars which don't concern us Number 6
5. To manage our own international affairs Number 5
6. To have parties governing Scotland who attract a majority vote in Scotland Number 5

Those aren't my personal views but they are some of the reasons for which many people votes Yes.

I've shared my own vote and the reason for that earlier in this thread.

You're funny.

The only things actually added are party political and notging really to do with reasons for wanting independence.


So I take it wiggys lisr was in fact accurate.

[simoid]

UKIP man coming across well on BBC Scotland with Jackie Bird... IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.

[Welshbeef]

simoid said:

UKIP man coming across well on BBC Scotland with Jackie Bird... IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.

Nicola is on BBC1 now 30min interview

[HarryW]

Welshbeef said:

simoid said:

UKIP man coming across well on BBC Scotland with Jackie Bird... IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.

Nicola is on BBC1 now 30min interview

Funny how there is little hectoring by Euan as per other leader interviews, it's almost a public election broadcast by Nicola, can't for the life of me work out the man and his position.

[wc98]

HarryW said:

Funny how there is little hectoring by Euan as per other leader interviews, it's almost a public election broadcast by Nicola, can't for the life of me work out the man and his position.

the ratio of words by interviewee and interviewer would be interesting to see after that . complete opposite of the farage interview from what i could see.

[Sway]

'An end to partisan views and a move to a system where we work together in the interests of the nation'...

Unless the highest percentage vote Tory, in which case fk the electorate, I'll not work with them.

Pish.

[McWigglebum4th]

HarryW said:

Funny how there is little hectoring by Euan as per other leader interviews, it's almost a public election broadcast by Nicola, can't for the life of me work out the man and his position.

I wonder why the BBC are kind to an extreme left wing politician that promises to make a scottish broadcaster free from the hideous right wing bias the english force upon them

[DuncsGTi]

Angus Robertson on Daily politics defence and security debate said:

The UK nuclear deterrent didn't stop Vladimir Putin from invading the Ukraine, so the nuclear deterrent doesn't work.

Erm, no, but he might have thought twice if the Ukraine still had nukes though????

[rovermorris999]

Some of you may agree with this, some may not.
http://www.capx.co/the-snp-is-now-a-mystic-cult-wh...

[Welshbeef]

DuncsGTi said:

Angus Robertson on Daily politics defence and security debate said:

The UK nuclear deterrent didn't stop Vladimir Putin from invading the Ukraine, so the nuclear deterrent doesn't work.

Erm, no, but he might have thought twice if the Ukraine still had nukes though????

The original deal was that Russia UK and USA would respect its boarders if it gave up Nukes. It did now all 3 parties in that agreement totally ignore it why?

[simoid]

DuncsGTi said:

Angus Robertson on Daily politics defence and security debate said:

The UK nuclear deterrent didn't stop Vladimir Putin from invading the Ukraine, so the nuclear deterrent doesn't work.

Erm, no, but he might have thought twice if the Ukraine still had nukes though????

Man from alternate reality said:

"A guy in my street has a burglar alarm and a rottweiler but I still got burgled. WTF?"

[Welshbeef]

Anyone think that in Scotland we may see a repeat of the John Major silent victory style is all polls saying SNP going to destroy everyone but instead that doesn't materialise at all.

[simoid]

Expect the worst; hope for the above!

[Edinburger]

Welshbeef said:

Anyone think that in Scotland we may see a repeat of the John Major silent victory style is all polls saying SNP going to destroy everyone but instead that doesn't materialise at all.

I think the Conservatives will do better than expected. Other parties' promises feel too similar and I think many people are tiring of the "anyone but the Tories" lines which we keep hearing.

Could be wrong but I think this will drive some people to vote Conservative.

[Edinburger]

Ms Sturgeon on BBC Breakfast right now: "this election is certainly not about another independence. referendum".

Came across well. Usual anti-Tory lines. Number one goal is "end of austerity" and working with Labour.

[Edinburger]

Re. above, she favour armed forces and maritime patrol rather than Trident. Was dismissive of the letter opposing scrapping of Trident by those twenty military chiefs.

Not a great interview by Bill. Barely probing and Ms Sturgeon spoke over him.

[AstonZagato]

I rather hope the John Major analogy works.

The Tories are thought to be unacceptable in polite society so pollsters hear other voting intentions. In the privacy of the polling booth, I think a different reality comes to the fore: " they are doing well on the economy and that's what's important ".

I think the inverse is true with the SNP. it is seen as the cool choice in Scotland so probably over-polls. However, not sure that there is much reason to not vote SNP in private. Labour or SNP is much of a muchness.

[McWigglebum4th]

Edinburger said:

Ms Sturgeon on BBC Breakfast right now: "this election is certainly not about another independence. referendum".

It took less then 12 hours after they lost the referendum before they stated they wanted another chance

You might find yourself living in an independent scotland in a few weeks time if the loud mouthed idiots in the SNP ranks get their way

http://www.sott.net/article/287750-Scotland-may-un...