Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

[Garvin]

technodup said:

exitwound said:

For those who moan and groan when independence is mentioned again, they better get used to it as it will rear its head again in the near future. It doesn't matter what the vote was in the previous referendum, it will be voted on again and again until independence is finally achieved. Deal with it!!!

Once this has happened, then the SNP will be no more, ..game over, the Scottish Government will then have its own political parties for the Scots to vote for like any other government i.e. right, left, centre, green, monster raving loony or whatever etc etc..

Utter bks.

You seriously think Sturgeon, Salmond and their rag tag bunch of economically illiterate followers will be happy with independence? That they'll just hand over the reigns to AN Other and put their feet up, satisfied with a job well done?

Not a fking chance.

I think Salmond might. He's a wily old fox and once he's got his name enshrined in the history books for being the 'Father of Independence' or whatever he'll be off on some other gravy train leaving others to pick up the inevitable pieces. Sturgeon will be left to go down with the sinking ship - I don't think she's well connected enough to have an escape route.

[jonny996]

it will be a strange position to be in if we have a SNP deputy prime minister but they are not leader of the party. How does the constitution stand up with the deputy PM taking orders from a non UK elected head of the party

[johnxjsc1985]

jonny996 said:

it will be a strange position to be in if we have a SNP deputy prime minister but they are not leader of the party. How does the constitution stand up with the deputy PM taking orders from a non UK elected head of the party

Never going to happen.

[McWigglebum4th]

technodup said:

exitwound said:

For those who moan and groan when independence is mentioned again, they better get used to it as it will rear its head again in the near future. It doesn't matter what the vote was in the previous referendum, it will be voted on again and again until independence is finally achieved. Deal with it!!!

Once this has happened, then the SNP will be no more, ..game over, the Scottish Government will then have its own political parties for the Scots to vote for like any other government i.e. right, left, centre, green, monster raving loony or whatever etc etc..

Utter bks.

You seriously think Sturgeon, Salmond and their rag tag bunch of economically illiterate followers will be happy with independence? That they'll just hand over the reigns to AN Other and put their feet up, satisfied with a job well done?

Not a fking chance.

Exactly

Once we get FFREEeeedddooommmmmmm

They will have to ensure all quislings have been removed from any chance of influence

At very least might right to vote will be removed

And if they are really quick they might be able to throw me out of the country before leave of my own free will


But i guess right wing scum like me leaving is part of the plan

[johnxjsc1985]

McWigglebum4th said:

Exactly

Once we get FFREEeeedddooommmmmmm

They will have to ensure all quislings have been removed from any chance of influence

At very least might right to vote will be removed

And if they are really quick they might be able to throw me out of the country before leave of my own free will


But i guess right wing scum like me leaving is part of the plan

I suspect their is plenty mor eright wing scum like you in Scotland but the bully boys have made it so they only voice their opinions at the ballot box. Like the referendum I think we will say a lot of commonsense come May

[Strocky]

IainT said:

Edinburger said:

Number one goal is "end of austerity" and

...beginning of bankruptcy.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/ng-interactive/2015/apr/29/the-austerity-delusion

[Strocky]

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

Think so myself, the amount of swing required from Labour to SNP in the Labour heartlands needs to be huge to win seats

What is your views on PR?


Would you support all scottish MPs being selected that way?

All for it, would give the greens a bigger voice in the UK and give the Tories a decent representation in an Independent Scotland

[Strocky]

simoid said:

UKIP man coming across well on BBC Scotland with Jackie Bird... IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.

I can see why he resonates with your good self

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/ukip-...

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

All for it, would give the greens a bigger voice in the UK and give the Tories a decent representation in an Independent Scotland

I thought all tory voters were to be killed

Or are you one of the few nats that acknowledge that is almost 20% tory voters up here

[Strocky]

McWigglebum4th said:

arp1 said:

Remember wiggleturd, it is the will of the Scottish people that puts a party in power, and IF a referendum is in the Snp Holyrood manifesto and the Scottish people vote for it, then it's a goer, if they don't get in then a referendum is much less likely. Democracy.

So what you are saying is

"the settled will of the scottish people"

"Once in a generation vote"

"once in a lifetime chance"


Was all total lies

Thank you for making it clear that you and the SNP are lying scum who have zero respect for the majority of the scottish people

Edited by McWigglebum4th on Wednesday 29th April 12:17

Ruth Davison promised no more devolved powers for Holyrood in 2011 in her campaign to be the leader of the Scottish Tories, does that make her a lying scumbag with zero respect for the majority of Scottish Tory voters?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/87...

[simoid]

arp1 said:

Like I said though, if they have any 'voice' down there, and make a mess, they will not get voted in for a third term....

They made a mess of the independence campaign yet their popularity is higher than ever. This would seem to contradict your hypothesis.

[Strocky]

Why won't his burden just finish

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-o...

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

Why won't his burden just finish

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-o...

What burden?


Oh yeah you believe you can spend all the oil money on food banks, spend it a 2nd time on free education, a 3rd time on health, a 4th time on the worlds highest dole and then put it all in a savings account


If the SNP promised not to send a penny of the oil money and run a balanced budget i would support them

Edited by McWigglebum4th on Wednesday 29th April 19:18

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

Ruth Davison promised no more devolved powers for Holyrood in 2011 in her campaign to be the leader of the Scottish Tories, does that make her a lying scumbag with zero respect for the majority of Scottish Tory voters?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/87...

I was un aware that that english tory scum was prime minster


Oh wait


She lost

[Strocky]

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

All for it, would give the greens a bigger voice in the UK and give the Tories a decent representation in an Independent Scotland

I thought all tory voters were to be killed

Or are you one of the few nats that acknowledge that is almost 20% tory voters up here

Only in a UK GE (well not this one obviously)

In the Holyrood elections, the SNP & Labour absolutely smash the Tory representation (have less than 14% of the vote)
An absolute irrelevance of a party in Scotland

Votes % +/− Seats +/− Votes % +/− Seats +/− Total +/− %
SNP 902,915 45.39 +12.46 53 +32 876,421 44.04 +13.03 16 −9 69 +23 53.49
Labour 630,461 31.69 −0.45 15 −20 523,559 26.31 −2.85 22 +13 37 −7 28.68
Conservative 276,652 13.91 −2.69 3 −3 245,967 12.36 −1.55 12 −2 15 −5 11.63
Liberal Democrats 157,714 7.93 −8.25 2 −9 103,472 5.20 −6.10 3 −3 5 −12 3.88

[Strocky]

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

Ruth Davison promised no more devolved powers for Holyrood in 2011 in her campaign to be the leader of the Scottish Tories, does that make her a lying scumbag with zero respect for the majority of Scottish Tory voters?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/87...

I was un aware that that english tory scum was prime minster


Oh wait


She lost

Nope she won the Scottish Tory leaders election against Murdo Fraser and promised no more devolved powers for Holyrood, so she lied to get into power, so by your logic......

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

Only in a UK GE (well not this one obviously)

In the Holyrood elections, the SNP & Labour absolutely smash the Tory representation (have less than 14% of the vote)
An absolute irrelevance of a party in Scotland

Votes % +/- Seats +/- Votes % +/- Seats +/- Total +/- %
SNP 902,915 45.39 +12.46 53 +32 876,421 44.04 +13.03 16 -9 69 +23 53.49
Labour 630,461 31.69 -0.45 15 -20 523,559 26.31 -2.85 22 +13 37 -7 28.68
Conservative 276,652 13.91 -2.69 3 -3 245,967 12.36 -1.55 12 -2 15 -5 11.63
Liberal Democrats 157,714 7.93 -8.25 2 -9 103,472 5.20 -6.10 3 -3 5 -12 3.88

And by the same measure you SNP st are completely irrelevant on the UK front


Do you not get it


You cannot demand an extra 180 billion a year spending in the UK with less then 5% of the votes

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

Nope she won the Scottish Tory leaders election against Murdo Fraser and promised no more devolved powers for Holyrood, so she lied to get into power, so by your logic......

But we know us english scum lie


You superior scots never lie

You are the master race

We are weak crappy scared pieces of dirt on your shoes


But we still beat you

We still have ruled you for 300 years


You will get your independence

You will never ever ever get your freedom or wealth

[Strocky]

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

Why won't his burden just finish

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-o...

What burden?


Oh yeah you believe you can spend all the oil money on food banks, spend it a 2nd time on free education, a 3rd time on health, a 4th time on the worlds highest dole and then put it all in a savings account


If the SNP promised not to send a penny of the oil money and run a balanced budget i would support them

Edited by McWigglebum4th on Wednesday 29th April 19:18

So let me get my head round this, your happy for the Westminster government to spend all the oil money and run a large defecit but not a Scottish Government doing the same?

So what should an iS they do with the oil money?

[Strocky]

McWigglebum4th said:

And by the same measure you SNP st are completely irrelevant on the UK front


Do you not get it


You cannot demand an extra 180 billion a year spending in the UK with less then 5% of the votes

It's £140Bn wiggles, if I've told you a million times don't exaggerate

The Tory economic plan for the next 5 years was slammed by the IFS as the one with the biggest funding gap of all the parties and a Nobel winning economist has just torpedoed "austerity economics" as a flawed concept, looks like the SNP plan is the sensible course for a country coming out of recession, but if you'd rather let your hatred for the SNP cloud your judgement about the best economic plan for the country......