Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

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johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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If you are a non SNP voter how likely are you to advertise the fact given what we have seen in the past 12 months. Maybe the "shy" Scottish voter will have the last laugh.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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NoNeed said:
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
The Scottish nazi party, to them the English are the new Jews but they still don't like jews.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3066692/Nicola-shiny-new-face-SNP-nationalism-ugly-pal-s-bloody-nose-proves.html
Do you have any idea how offensive and utterly out of order that is?
Truth hurt?
Why would any of that hurt me?

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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NoNeed said:
gofasterrosssco said:
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
The Scottish nazi party, to them the English are the new Jews but they still don't like jews.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3066692/Nicola-shiny-new-face-SNP-nationalism-ugly-pal-s-bloody-nose-proves.html
Do you have any idea how offensive and utterly out of order that is?
I think the article is pretty spot on, if a bit Daily Mail-ish..
Funny that all through the referendum debate we were called every name the SnaziP could think of. They made us out to be illegal occupiers and gave us names to suit. Give a little back and they start crying.
Who is "we" / "us"?

whistle

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Ian974 said:
NoNeed said:
gofasterrosssco said:
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
The Scottish nazi party, to them the English are the new Jews but they still don't like jews.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3066692/Nicola-shiny-new-face-SNP-nationalism-ugly-pal-s-bloody-nose-proves.html
Do you have any idea how offensive and utterly out of order that is?
I think the article is pretty spot on, if a bit Daily Mail-ish..
Funny that all through the referendum debate we were called every name the SnaziP could think of. They made us out to be illegal occupiers and gave us names to suit. Give a little back and they start crying.
Apparently this is bang out of order but 55% of the people who voted to be part of a country which uses the pound as a currency, is a member of the EU and has a national health service are cowards and traitors
Do you think that the principles and the behaviour of those who support Scottish nationalism is comparable to those who persecuted Jews acrsoss Europe in the 1930s/40s?

If you do then I think you need to brush up on your history. rolleyes

Rick_1138

3,685 posts

179 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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johnxjsc1985 said:
If you are a non SNP voter how likely are you to advertise the fact given what we have seen in the past 12 months. Maybe the "shy" Scottish voter will have the last laugh.
This is the bit that i think will make the biggest difference in the scottish ote. Poll's say SNP will sweep all aside, but i still cant see it. They will do well, but not over 75% of seats.

Being in a Marginal seat its getting tiresome the amount of crap through my door, thankfully being out of town a bit i just get leaflets, not door to door greets yet.

Oh well, 2 days to go

bigkeeko

1,370 posts

144 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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The whole thing has started again where I live. I`ve even saw a re advertised Yes poster.



Big Rod

6,200 posts

217 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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bigkeeko said:
The whole thing has started again where I live. I`ve even saw a re advertised Yes poster.
I've noticed this too. Flying Saltires and Yes stickers seems to be the de rigueur vehicular accessories in certain areas at the moment.

I always felt there was a dignity about not advertising your political leanings in public.

What was that thing about empty vessels?

Strocky

2,650 posts

114 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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To put this into perspective, no-one was hurt except a journalist struck by a placard held by the Labour GCC leader Gordon Matheson, the protestors (invited by Scottish Labour) were pushed away by the crowd of hangers-on and democracy lived to fight another day

It's actually pathetic the faux hysteria on here regarding this non-story and trying to extrapolate it into something larger and sinister

It also tickles my funny bone when someone posts content from the Daily Mosley attacking the SNP for being fascists in the 1930s, it's like 10,000 spoons laugh

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
The Scottish nazi party, to them the English are the new Jews but they still don't like jews.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3066692/Nicola-shiny-new-face-SNP-nationalism-ugly-pal-s-bloody-nose-proves.html
Do you have any idea how offensive and utterly out of order that is?
Truth hurt?
Why would any of that hurt me?
You said you were offended.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
gofasterrosssco said:
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
The Scottish nazi party, to them the English are the new Jews but they still don't like jews.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3066692/Nicola-shiny-new-face-SNP-nationalism-ugly-pal-s-bloody-nose-proves.html
Do you have any idea how offensive and utterly out of order that is?
I think the article is pretty spot on, if a bit Daily Mail-ish..
Funny that all through the referendum debate we were called every name the SnaziP could think of. They made us out to be illegal occupiers and gave us names to suit. Give a little back and they start crying.
Who is "we" / "us"?

whistle
None Nazi's

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Edinburger said:
Do you think that the principles and the behaviour of those who support Scottish nationalism is comparable to those who persecuted Jews acrsoss Europe in the 1930s/40s?

If you do then I think you need to brush up on your history. rolleyes
Have the SNP removed the ban on Jewish literature?

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Strocky said:
To put this into perspective, no-one was hurt except a journalist struck by a placard held by the Labour GCC leader Gordon Matheson, the protestors (invited by Scottish Labour) were pushed away by the crowd of hangers-on and democracy lived to fight another day

It's actually pathetic the faux hysteria on here regarding this non-story and trying to extrapolate it into something larger and sinister

It also tickles my funny bone when someone posts content from the Daily Mosley attacking the SNP for being fascists in the 1930s, it's like 10,000 spoons laugh
Really?

So the SNP and their supporters aren't following other candidates around to heckle and shout abuse when they try to talk to the electorate.



The similarities with the German nazi's that the SNP supported are endless and the Advocacy of a form of socialism by right-wing figures and movements are virtually the same as in Germany which became common during and after World War I, influencing Nazism.

Remember they were the tartan tories? Nationalism is ugly and if you are a nationalist you are ugly.


I must add after Trollburgers comment that the nazi's blamed the Jews for all their problems, Scotland blame the English.

Edited by NoNeed on Tuesday 5th May 12:04

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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NoNeed said:
Really?

So the SNP and their supporters aren't following other candidates around to heckle and shout abuse when they try to talk to the electorate.
Check out the hilarious tweet on page 461! rofl


bigkeeko

1,370 posts

144 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Big Rod said:
I've noticed this too. Flying Saltires and Yes stickers seems to be the de rigueur vehicular accessories in certain areas at the moment.
On complete junkers of vehicles too. Usually driven by unemployed (read unemployable) roll up smoking, tattooed wastes of taxpayers money. I suppose they have the least to lose and need someone to blame for their shortcomings.

Big Rod

6,200 posts

217 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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bigkeeko said:
On complete junkers of vehicles too. Usually driven by unemployed (read unemployable) roll up smoking, tattooed wastes of taxpayers money. I suppose they have the least to lose and need someone to blame for their shortcomings.
I have observed similar but refrained from pointing it out in case someone thought I was being elitist.

Oh! The Turdgeon is on R2 in a bit. This could be entertaining.

iphonedyou

9,260 posts

158 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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NoNeed said:
You said you were offended.
rofl

It's too easy.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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NoNeed said:
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
The Scottish nazi party, to them the English are the new Jews but they still don't like jews.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3066692/Nicola-shiny-new-face-SNP-nationalism-ugly-pal-s-bloody-nose-proves.html
Do you have any idea how offensive and utterly out of order that is?
Truth hurt?
Why would any of that hurt me?
You said you were offended.
Wrong. I suggested it was offensive.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
quotequote all
NoNeed said:
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
gofasterrosssco said:
Edinburger said:
NoNeed said:
The Scottish nazi party, to them the English are the new Jews but they still don't like jews.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3066692/Nicola-shiny-new-face-SNP-nationalism-ugly-pal-s-bloody-nose-proves.html
Do you have any idea how offensive and utterly out of order that is?
I think the article is pretty spot on, if a bit Daily Mail-ish..
Funny that all through the referendum debate we were called every name the SnaziP could think of. They made us out to be illegal occupiers and gave us names to suit. Give a little back and they start crying.
Who is "we" / "us"?

whistle
None Nazi's
Wish PH had an 'ignore' button. rolleyes

iphonedyou

9,260 posts

158 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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Edinburger said:
Wrong. I suggested it was offensive.
Ah, vicarious offence, the best sort. It's just as well we have the arbiter of offence here to guide us.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Tuesday 5th May 2015
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NoNeed said:
Strocky said:
To put this into perspective, no-one was hurt except a journalist struck by a placard held by the Labour GCC leader Gordon Matheson, the protestors (invited by Scottish Labour) were pushed away by the crowd of hangers-on and democracy lived to fight another day

It's actually pathetic the faux hysteria on here regarding this non-story and trying to extrapolate it into something larger and sinister

It also tickles my funny bone when someone posts content from the Daily Mosley attacking the SNP for being fascists in the 1930s, it's like 10,000 spoons laugh
Really?

So the SNP and their supporters aren't following other candidates around to heckle and shout abuse when they try to talk to the electorate.



The similarities with the German nazi's that the SNP supported are endless and the Advocacy of a form of socialism by right-wing figures and movements are virtually the same as in Germany which became common during and after World War I, influencing Nazism.

Remember they were the tartan tories? Nationalism is ugly and if you are a nationalist you are ugly.


I must add after Trollburgers comment that the nazi's blamed the Jews for all their problems, Scotland blame the English.

Edited by NoNeed on Tuesday 5th May 12:04
Where did I say that "the Nazis blamed the Jews for all their problems"? Honestly, you're like Wiggley in disguise although with marginally less typos and grammatical errors.

Anyway, just to balance things up a bit I just read this on the reader's comments of The Scotmans:

This may help those that don't reside on the extremes of the unionist movement that these "stories" buy our friends at the right wing press may just be trying to skew things Just a tad.

"Two teenagers have been charged after a man was assaulted outside a pro-Independence concert at the Usher Hall last night."

"Yes campaigners attacked by mob outside Tynecastle"

"Party activist trapped as Glasgow SNP office is attacked by a gang of thugs"

"Scottish independence campaigner, 80, attacked"

"A video has emerged which appears to show a supporter of the United Kingdom kicking out at a female protestor."

"Yes campaigner Dad's fury as son narrowly avoids chair thrown from balcony by No supporter"

"Former Merseyside council leader Marie Rimmer charged over alleged assault at Scottish independence polling station"

"Glasgow's George Square turns ugly as pro-union skinheads taunt defeated Scottish independence campaigners"


"A crazed motorist chased Alex Salmond's official car in a rage because he felt the First Minister snubbed him during a chance encounter."

"A Twitter troll threatened to assassinate the First Minister because he 'doesn't really like the SNP', a court heard today."

"Jail for man who threatened to slit Alex Salmond's throat"

"A man has appeared in court charged in connection with online threats against Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond."
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