I don't feel scared of terrorists, am I wrong?
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A woman I used to work with was good friends with the mother of a girl from Bristol killed in the 7/7 bombings.
Where I used to live (Staffs) had more than it's fair share - a soldier was shot dead at Lichfield Station, they tried to shoot dead the former governor of Gibraltar following the killing of the IRA bombers and there was a mysterious incident on Cannock Chase all involving the PIRA back in early 90s. All incidents were about 5 miles from where I lived.
I live in London now but certainly don't worry about it.
Where I used to live (Staffs) had more than it's fair share - a soldier was shot dead at Lichfield Station, they tried to shoot dead the former governor of Gibraltar following the killing of the IRA bombers and there was a mysterious incident on Cannock Chase all involving the PIRA back in early 90s. All incidents were about 5 miles from where I lived.
I live in London now but certainly don't worry about it.
ShaunTheSheep said:
As title really. Had a discussion with someone I really respect and they're convinced the next terrorist atrocity is just around the corner and it will wipe out some people we know.
Am I wrong to treat the prospect of an ISIS attack as lower priority than day to day killers like cancer?
Far too sensible Am I wrong to treat the prospect of an ISIS attack as lower priority than day to day killers like cancer?
TX.
onyx39 said:
agtlaw said:
In Britain today, you are statistically more likely to be killed by a policeman than a terrorist.
Only thing I could find was this Wikipedia article, which lists 20 odd victims since about 1920, I suspect the list may be incomplete. How many died on 7/7? 52/53?Unfortunately your more likely to be done in by a copper there than many things!
onyx39 said:
Only thing I could find was this Wikipedia article, which lists 20 odd victims since about 1920, I suspect the list may be incomplete. How many died on 7/7? 52/53?
That was 2005. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-i...
MarshPhantom said:
A woman I used to work with was good friends with the mother of a girl from Bristol killed in the 7/7 bombings.
Where I used to live (Staffs) had more than it's fair share - a soldier was shot dead at Lichfield Station, they tried to shoot dead the former governor of Gibraltar following the killing of the IRA bombers and there was a mysterious incident on Cannock Chase all involving the PIRA back in early 90s. All incidents were about 5 miles from where I lived.
There's probably loads of people who distantly knew someone killed in 7/7:Where I used to live (Staffs) had more than it's fair share - a soldier was shot dead at Lichfield Station, they tried to shoot dead the former governor of Gibraltar following the killing of the IRA bombers and there was a mysterious incident on Cannock Chase all involving the PIRA back in early 90s. All incidents were about 5 miles from where I lived.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation
I guess that's kind of how terrorism works...
The objective of a terrorist, among other things is to terrorise (hint: clue is in the name)
If you're not scared, then whatever they're doing isn't working. In related news, whatever you're doing is right.
As everyone said, the odds of it affecting you personally are rather small - thus it's not worrying about
If you're not scared, then whatever they're doing isn't working. In related news, whatever you're doing is right.
As everyone said, the odds of it affecting you personally are rather small - thus it's not worrying about
Not worrying at all about it is too far in the other direction for me. While i don't agree with my Grandpa's fear of terrorism, i don't condone complacency.
I agree with the thinking that nutjobs are the primary vehicle for viable attacks. I think nutjobs (damaged goods type people) can be easy prey for indoctrination by groups which seek to harm the UK. Therefore i think it possible for further attacks to happen here - we have plenty of damaged goods type people as a casual glance at the middle lane of any UK motorway will attest ;-) ... i jest of course.
I don't believe a large attack is possible. There just aren't enough sympathetic nutjobs here or abroad and logistically speaking, i can't see a sustained attack being possible either. Small attacks that occur with extended gaps between them are possible i think.
I'm quite attached to the idea of zero deaths by terrorists. So I support targeted intelligence gathering - worth pointing out by that i explicitly do not mean trawling random people looking for patterns, targeted is key.
I agree with the thinking that nutjobs are the primary vehicle for viable attacks. I think nutjobs (damaged goods type people) can be easy prey for indoctrination by groups which seek to harm the UK. Therefore i think it possible for further attacks to happen here - we have plenty of damaged goods type people as a casual glance at the middle lane of any UK motorway will attest ;-) ... i jest of course.
I don't believe a large attack is possible. There just aren't enough sympathetic nutjobs here or abroad and logistically speaking, i can't see a sustained attack being possible either. Small attacks that occur with extended gaps between them are possible i think.
I'm quite attached to the idea of zero deaths by terrorists. So I support targeted intelligence gathering - worth pointing out by that i explicitly do not mean trawling random people looking for patterns, targeted is key.
Well the thought crosses my mind every so often but I just ignore it and carry on doing what I was going to do anyway. These people want you to change your behaviour through the fear of terrorism, by reacting to it they are winning.
The effect of the Al-Qaeda attacks on the Spanish rail system just before the Spanish election resulted in the election of the party that said they will bring their troops home from Afghanistan, that one attack influenced a whole country and weakened the international coalition in Afghanistan.
The effect of the Al-Qaeda attacks on the Spanish rail system just before the Spanish election resulted in the election of the party that said they will bring their troops home from Afghanistan, that one attack influenced a whole country and weakened the international coalition in Afghanistan.
I live in Central london, was near the Bishopsgate bomb at uni. My mum witnessed the St james Park bombing, my then GF was caught up in the 7/7 stuff as it happened just near her work. I also lived in Tel Aviv with regular trips all over Israel and into Bethlehem (let's not turn this into an Israel thread, simply that it was a far higher risk environment than London).
Lost a couple of mates in Israel to attacks over the years but frankly, I can;t say it worries me much. While it is clearly not possible to stop every attack this crippling fear some people have is nuts! Frankly, you have far far more chance of being hit by a car but I don't see people cowering from fear everytime they see a road!
Lost a couple of mates in Israel to attacks over the years but frankly, I can;t say it worries me much. While it is clearly not possible to stop every attack this crippling fear some people have is nuts! Frankly, you have far far more chance of being hit by a car but I don't see people cowering from fear everytime they see a road!
I drive 50,000kms a year.
I am far more likely to die in a car accident than a terrorist attack. I don't s
t myself in terror when I have to join a motorway, so why would I when a brown person sits next to me on a train?
Adverse reaction to medication is more likely to kill you than terrorism.
Lightning is more likely to kill you than terrorism.
You are over 2000 times more likely to kill yourself than be killed by terrorists.
Hell, you are more likely to be killed by auto-erotic asphyxiation than terrorism.
So yeah, it is perfectly reasonable not the feel scared of terrorists.
I am far more likely to die in a car accident than a terrorist attack. I don't s
t myself in terror when I have to join a motorway, so why would I when a brown person sits next to me on a train? Adverse reaction to medication is more likely to kill you than terrorism.
Lightning is more likely to kill you than terrorism.
You are over 2000 times more likely to kill yourself than be killed by terrorists.
Hell, you are more likely to be killed by auto-erotic asphyxiation than terrorism.
So yeah, it is perfectly reasonable not the feel scared of terrorists.
onyx39 said:
agtlaw said:
In Britain today, you are statistically more likely to be killed by a policeman than a terrorist.
Only thing I could find was this Wikipedia article, which lists 20 odd victims since about 1920, I suspect the list may be incomplete. How many died on 7/7? 52/53?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_in...
I was on a training course in Hammersmith the week following the 1996 Dockland's bomb. For the five days all you heard through the windows were police sirens going off every five minutes. I went to see 'Heat' at the cinema and half-way through we were evacuated, although there was no sense of panic - mostly frustration at missing the end of the film! The final day of the course I got back to the hotel and discovered most of the underground was shut down so I decided discretion was the better part of valour and stuck to room service and an evening with the telly...
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