London's New Year's Eve fireworks to be ticketed - £10 each
Discussion
KareemK said:
Once again the Tories manage to discriminate against those families who are not so well off - £50 for a husband, wife and 3 kids, brilliant. And at just the time of year when household budgets are reeling anyway.
From reading attendees comments, it seems it would be unwise for a couple to take 3 children and stand in one tight spot for many hours in the depths of winter.If £100,000 of the revenue were to be spent on improvements to your local area, would you still have the same point of view?
"And at just the time of year when household budgets are reeling anyway."
This has been a problem since humans created money & will never change.
Murph7355 said:
No, it isn't.
Someone has to pay for it. Why not those who go and see it?
I suppose you think housing benefits are free. Or you get your bins emptied for free too?
Then again, maybe you do.
Someone has to pay for it. Why not those who go and see it?
I suppose you think housing benefits are free. Or you get your bins emptied for free too?
Then again, maybe you do.
Put like that you can argue the NHS isn't free but it is at the point of use.
As for your asinine comment about "maybe you do" it kinda sums up the type of people arguing for the charge.
Yes, everybody pays - but everybody gets to see it if they want to go early enough. Now its going to be full of people like you.
KareemK said:
As for your asinine comment about "maybe you do" it kinda sums up the type of people arguing for the charge.
That's been your assumption from the start about everyone who is on the other side of the fence from you. It's nothing to do with that for me at all. Your mythical family of 4 would need to save appx 80 pence a week to be able to afford this.If they are unable to afford 80 pence a week then I would suggest seeing fireworks at NYE is the least of their issues and they wouldn't have been able to afford the travel into London even if it were free.
KareemK said:
Firstly, please stop saying stuff like "stop" - it makes you sound like a control freak.
Secondly, There is no problem with how it currently operates. I've been when its 20 deep at the embankment and not 1 "problem".
Are people dying? Breaking ribs from the crush? Get real.
It's people like you shouting "there are problems" where none actually exist thats giving credance to the introduction of charging.
Like I said, you don't need to charge if crowd problems are your concern, see all of the other cities for details
The issues have nothing to do with people dying or breaking ribs. It's infrastructure. You're completely failing, at every level, to grasp the issues here. It's no wonder you find yourself confused and angry.
iphonedyou said:
KareemK said:
Firstly, please stop saying stuff like "stop" - it makes you sound like a control freak.
Secondly, There is no problem with how it currently operates. I've been when its 20 deep at the embankment and not 1 "problem".
Are people dying? Breaking ribs from the crush? Get real.
It's people like you shouting "there are problems" where none actually exist thats giving credance to the introduction of charging.
Like I said, you don't need to charge if crowd problems are your concern, see all of the other cities for details
The issues have nothing to do with people dying or breaking ribs. It's infrastructure. You're completely failing, at every level, to grasp the issues here. It's no wonder you find yourself confused and angry.
KareemK said:
hornet said:
How do you stop people trying to get in once your free area is full? More importantly, how do you stop those not already at said area from trying to get to it? Free access would be a crowd control nightmare
You stop it in the same way that you stop it if its ticketed. With security, and temporary fencing etc Just like they did at the millenium display when areas got too rammed.The addition of a charge wont change that.
anonymous said:
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1. I thought you were 'out'2. A family of 4 is hardly feckin' mythical
3. It's 80p a week this year, £1 next yada yada yada.
4. I'm actually seeing this from the POV of hard working but low paid Londoners, not people travelling into London. The people who already pay for the streets upkeep. Perhaps if there was a charge for people coming from outside of London I could kinda see the logic.
Returning to comparisons, how many other Towns/Cities municipal Year End Firework displays have an entrance fee?
Not the privately run one's or the ones held by a school or hospital and designed to raise money for a them but ones run by the council? And please, I know it wasn't you, but no more comparing the Brighton Speed Trials with a Year End Celebration that 99% would enjoy attending. BTW, the BST aren't actually run by Brighton and Hove council anyway.
Edinburgh, OK, BUT WHAT OTHER COUNCILS?
Rovinghawk said:
KareemK-
Why do you feel you have the right to go & see fireworks free of charge?
Seriously?Why do you feel you have the right to go & see fireworks free of charge?
Lets turn that on its head.
Rovinghawk - Why do you feel I should pay for something thats been safe and free up until now? And remains free in almost every major city in the world.
KareemK said:
Why do you feel I should pay for something thats been safe and free up until now?
Just because it was free once doesn't mean it should always be so. Maybe the cost of running the event has increased.It might have been safe once, but the argument is that increasing numbers means that's no longer so.
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