London's New Year's Eve fireworks to be ticketed - £10 each
Discussion
anonymous said:
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So we aren't allowed to use an event that closes roads and charges a fee in answer to a direct question about where else does it happen, I'd have accepted your rebuttal of the BST if you had pointed out its not actually held on public road, but i doubt Bob and Dorris who cant get to their favorite beach spot would appreciate the semantics of Madeira drives status. But if it makes you happy I'll withdraw it as an event that closes roads for fee events, in return I'll put forward, the Birmingham superprix as already mentioned, The Adelaide ALMS in 2000, The Monaco GP, Melbourne GP, Spa before they permanently closed the road, the list of for profit GP's goes on, but we probably cant count those either by your random rules, so what about all the cycle races, carnivals, marathons, ok you can stand by the side of the road and watch, but the best places have stands and they charge for them, why cant i stand where they put the viewing stand for free after all I could stand there last week. What about BBC proms in the park, its run by the BBC which i have paid for in a park that should be free to get into, but they want to charge £38.Even the Sydney NYE fireworks aren't free from all locations as i have pointed out previously and you conveniently ignore. Yes most if it is free but they have 240km of shoreline around a 55km2 harbor which forms a natural amphitheater, we have the embankment between Westminster and Waterloo bridge and the bridges themselves, so even if you want to discredit most of the Sydney harbor shoreline, what we have is about the same as the shoreline around the rocks and opera house, and there is still a very good view from Mrs Macquires chair, Darling harbor, the north shore and many many other places. you can get a good view of the bridge from 8km away at Neilson park and guess what its a ticket location $15-$30
KareemK said:
1. I thought you were 'out'
2. A family of 4 is hardly feckin' mythical
3. It's 80p a week this year, £1 next yada yada yada.
4. I'm actually seeing this from the POV of hard working but low paid Londoners, not people travelling into London. The people who already pay for the streets upkeep. Perhaps if there was a charge for people coming from outside of London I could kinda see the logic.
Returning to comparisons, how many other Towns/Cities municipal Year End Firework displays have an entrance fee?
Not the privately run one's or the ones held by a school or hospital and designed to raise money for a them but ones run by the council? And please, I know it wasn't you, but no more comparing the Brighton Speed Trials with a Year End Celebration that 99% would enjoy attending. BTW, the BST aren't actually run by Brighton and Hove council anyway.
Edinburgh, OK, BUT WHAT OTHER COUNCILS?
For the THIRD f2. A family of 4 is hardly feckin' mythical
3. It's 80p a week this year, £1 next yada yada yada.
4. I'm actually seeing this from the POV of hard working but low paid Londoners, not people travelling into London. The people who already pay for the streets upkeep. Perhaps if there was a charge for people coming from outside of London I could kinda see the logic.
Returning to comparisons, how many other Towns/Cities municipal Year End Firework displays have an entrance fee?
Not the privately run one's or the ones held by a school or hospital and designed to raise money for a them but ones run by the council? And please, I know it wasn't you, but no more comparing the Brighton Speed Trials with a Year End Celebration that 99% would enjoy attending. BTW, the BST aren't actually run by Brighton and Hove council anyway.
Edinburgh, OK, BUT WHAT OTHER COUNCILS?
king time...mine do!!!ViperDave said:
So we aren't allowed to use an event that closes roads and charges a fee in answer to a direct question about where else does it happen, I'd have accepted your rebuttal of the BST if you had pointed out its not actually held on public road, but i doubt Bob and Dorris who cant get to their favorite beach spot would appreciate the semantics of Madeira drives status. But if it makes you happy I'll withdraw it as an event that closes roads for fee events, in return I'll put forward, the Birmingham superprix as already mentioned, The Adelaide ALMS in 2000, The Monaco GP, Melbourne GP, Spa before they permanently closed the road, the list of for profit GP's goes on, but we probably cant count those either by your random rules, so what about all the cycle races, carnivals, marathons, ok you can stand by the side of the road and watch, but the best places have stands and they charge for them, why cant i stand where they put the viewing stand for free after all I could stand there last week. What about BBC proms in the park, its run by the BBC which i have paid for in a park that should be free to get into, but they want to charge £38.
Even the Sydney NYE fireworks aren't free from all locations as i have pointed out previously and you conveniently ignore. Yes most if it is free but they have 240km of shoreline around a 55km2 harbor which forms a natural amphitheater, we have the embankment between Westminster and Waterloo bridge and the bridges themselves, so even if you want to discredit most of the Sydney harbor shoreline, what we have is about the same as the shoreline around the rocks and opera house, and there is still a very good view from Mrs Macquires chair, Darling harbor, the north shore and many many other places. you can get a good view of the bridge from 8km away at Neilson park and guess what its a ticket location $15-$30
I'm glad you said that - thought my memory was playing tricks. I was in Woolfies on the Rocks three years ago for NYE (second visit, well worth it if any of you get the chance), and had to get through a ticket only barrier to get into the Rocks area. So the areas of Sydney that compare to the Embankment do charge a fee.Even the Sydney NYE fireworks aren't free from all locations as i have pointed out previously and you conveniently ignore. Yes most if it is free but they have 240km of shoreline around a 55km2 harbor which forms a natural amphitheater, we have the embankment between Westminster and Waterloo bridge and the bridges themselves, so even if you want to discredit most of the Sydney harbor shoreline, what we have is about the same as the shoreline around the rocks and opera house, and there is still a very good view from Mrs Macquires chair, Darling harbor, the north shore and many many other places. you can get a good view of the bridge from 8km away at Neilson park and guess what its a ticket location $15-$30
MarshPhantom said:
Sometimes.
Predictably enough that fencing, security, and dedicated emergency service access might be a good solution? Paid for, quite rightly, by those benefitting the most? Via, say, not-for-profit entry tickets?ETA - sorry. Obviously the correct solution is to fence off all our parks and beaches, all the time, and have full time security at the gates, and extra emergency services, paid for out of general taxation but free at point of use. What was I thinking?
Edited by grumbledoak on Saturday 20th September 10:58
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