London's New Year's Eve fireworks to be ticketed - £10 each
Discussion
boyse7en said:
But by that argument, access to the London Eye, London Dungeon and the Royal Opera House should also be free.
Why, do they entail standing in the public street? Are the Eye, Dungeon etc owned and run by a council funded by council tax income from both the rich and the poor.Poor, 2/10
KareemK said:
Once again the Tories manage to discriminate against those families who are not so well off - £50 for a husband, wife and 3 kids, brilliant. And at just the time of year when household budgets are reeling anyway.
Have you been to the fireworks? I would be f
ked if I would take my kids in the crushing crowds that happen.Or you can pay £10 each to have a bit of space and safety and loos etc
anonymous said:
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Yes, I took 2 of my kids (11 and 13 year olds) to the 2000 NYE fireworks. Got there 8 hours early and had a great time. Have been back twice since.100,000 people using portaloo's - £10 or not I do hope you're not expecting anything above a 3'x4'x7'container half-filled with poo.
KareemK said:
boyse7en said:
But by that argument, access to the London Eye, London Dungeon and the Royal Opera House should also be free.
Why, do they entail standing in the public street? Are the Eye, Dungeon etc owned and run by a council funded by council tax income from both the rich and the poor.Poor, 2/10
FFS half of London complained about subsidizing a free firework display for the rest of the country, if you over look the high cost of getting to and or staying in London. Now they decide to charge a very moderate fee and make it actually an enjoyable experience (it really wasn't before) and the other half of London complain they cant afford it because the mortgage on their £1m 2bed flat is too high!
Well £1 in a jar every week and the family of five can have change for a small bottle of fanta while they wait in comfort in the viewing enclosure. Or they could catch the tube for that one stop trip that is actually quicker to walk.
KareemK said:
Once again the Tories manage to discriminate against those families who are not so well off - £50 for a husband, wife and 3 kids, brilliant. And at just the time of year when household budgets are reeling anyway.
Not sure if serious. 
However, no one is forcing you to pay £50 to go and watch fireworks in London. It's hardly ripping money out of your children's xmas pressie fund by force is it?
Next you'll be telling us that it's yet another impact on the 'cost of living crisis'.
If people can't afford to go, don't go. Watch it on TV like most sensible people do or find a viewpoint outside the pay for barriers if you're for some reason that desperate to drag you family into London, because "it's your right", right?
Bizarre.
KareemK said:
boyse7en said:
But by that argument, access to the London Eye, London Dungeon and the Royal Opera House should also be free.
Why, do they entail standing in the public street? Are the Eye, Dungeon etc owned and run by a council funded by council tax income from both the rich and the poor.Poor, 2/10
turbobloke said:
By the same token as earlier remarks, not looking up for free is a bargain, so looking up for free further away is a steal.
Also I suspect the tickets are to control the growing numbers of NYE revellers i.e. supply and demand. The extra policing and transport staff has to be paid by someone, and it's possibly fairer to push those costs onto those who benefit directly!Piersman2 said:
Not sure if serious.
However, no one is forcing you to pay £50 to go and watch fireworks in London. It's hardly ripping money out of your children's xmas pressie fund by force is it?
Next you'll be telling us that it's yet another impact on the 'cost of living crisis'.
If people can't afford to go, don't go. Watch it on TV like most sensible people do or find a viewpoint outside the pay for barriers if you're for some reason that desperate to drag you family into London, because "it's your right", right?
Bizarre.
Astonishing presumption. However, no one is forcing you to pay £50 to go and watch fireworks in London. It's hardly ripping money out of your children's xmas pressie fund by force is it?
Next you'll be telling us that it's yet another impact on the 'cost of living crisis'.
If people can't afford to go, don't go. Watch it on TV like most sensible people do or find a viewpoint outside the pay for barriers if you're for some reason that desperate to drag you family into London, because "it's your right", right?
Bizarre.
I live in central london. My taxes help pay for the upkeep of it all and whilst I can afford the £10 many people in less advantageous circumstances cannot. I talk of people in run down council accomodation, of the thousands paying ridiculous rents whilst holding down jobs in the service or public sectors in London who currently get a show but soon won't. Of course I fully expect those who can afford it to be saying "pah, watch it on telly" to those who can't.
"Let them eat cake" eh?
fido said:
KareemK said:
I live in central london. My taxes help pay for the upkeep of it all ...
So do I - and your point is? It's a measly tenner (2 pints in my local) for goodness sake! Do you want me to pay for your kids to see a film as well?"Measly tenner".
Atually, I'll PM you my bank details if you like - feel free to deposit £50 for me, the missus and a couple of local kids to attend. It's always "measly" until someone says "ok, give us it then"
KareemK said:
Astonishing presumption.
I live in central london. My taxes help pay for the upkeep of it all and whilst I can afford the £10 many people in less advantageous circumstances cannot. I talk of people in run down council accomodation, of the thousands paying ridiculous rents whilst holding down jobs in the service or public sectors in London who currently get a show but soon won't. Of course I fully expect those who can afford it to be saying "pah, watch it on telly" to those who can't.
"Let them eat cake" eh?
You mean those poor unfortunates who are currently paying for it via their taxes whether they go or not? Perhaps they'd like a smaller tax bill and to not pay for a fireworks display at all.I live in central london. My taxes help pay for the upkeep of it all and whilst I can afford the £10 many people in less advantageous circumstances cannot. I talk of people in run down council accomodation, of the thousands paying ridiculous rents whilst holding down jobs in the service or public sectors in London who currently get a show but soon won't. Of course I fully expect those who can afford it to be saying "pah, watch it on telly" to those who can't.
"Let them eat cake" eh?
fido said:
KareemK said:
It's always "measly" until someone says "ok, give us it then"
Erm, because it's MY money, not YOURS - geddit? I'd happily spend a few hundred to snort coke off a hookers tits this evening if I were so inclined but I don't expect you to pay for it. Somebody with hundreds to spend shovelling charlie up their congested nostrils directly from a w
es norks doesn't usually have the same financial concerns as the people I'm talking about to whom an additional £40 at xmas time is a lot of money.Cake again.
Anyway, this has gone circular.
Coming next: Plans to charge for visiting Camden Market or watching Street Entertainers in Covent Garden.
Do they charge in New York, Sydney etc???grumbledoak said:
It isn't the government's job to give the tax revenue to charity. In fact it is quite perverse, though it is done for political reasons.
Boris should aim for the event to pay for itself out of the ticket sales.
You'd have to charge a fair bit more than a tenner a head for t to be self funding. Boris should aim for the event to pay for itself out of the ticket sales.
A mil is not a great deal of money in terms of an event of this sort of scale.
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