Aus Isis Gang arrested

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Bill

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Wednesday 24th September 2014
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Hmmm. I know that's the picture the Chinese try to paint. http://time.com/3172636/china-uighur-terror-attack...

TLandCruiser

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199 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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China deal with the problem alot better though.

dudleybloke

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187 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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Muslims have attacked police in southern Thailand recently too.


Bill

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256 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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TLandCruiser said:
China deal with the problem alot better though.
Just as they deal with those pesky Tibetan seperatists.

AreOut

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162 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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dudleybloke said:
Muslims have attacked police in southern Thailand recently too.
they have made problems literally everywhere they settled, Balkans, Russia,China, southeast Asia...you name it

Bill

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Thursday 25th September 2014
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They've "made" problems? confused

AreOut

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162 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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uhm, "maken"?

Bill

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Thursday 25th September 2014
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I wasn't commenting on your grammar. smile

BJG1

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213 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Bill said:
They've "made" problems? confused
Would "brought" be better?

The problem with Islam is that it is practiced in an extreme and medieval way in far greater volume than other religions, probably because it comes from less advanced countries and cultures.

We hear this "tiny minority" stuff a lot, and whilst it's true that it's only a tiny minority who actually carry out attacks, that small number come from a huge subset of people who have some pretty abhorrent views. There are moderate Muslims, but I wouldn't describe anyone who took to the streets to complain about that fking cartoon moderate and there were thousands of people taking to the streets all over Europe over that. Similarly, I'd describe anyone who puts their wife in a burkha as having some abhorrent views and that's a hell of a lot of people.

There was a youth panel with 6 Muslims on the BBC website a month or so ago about IS, the opinion on whether an Islamic state should exist was split across the panel but it had support from half of them. I appreciate that isn't a big sample size but there is a systemic problem with the practice of Islam around the world and we have imported in this culture and instead of clamping down on it, we've allowed it to get away with being against our values and in cases like Rotherham, allowed horrendous things to happen and covered them up to protect a culture that shouldn't exist here in the first place.

TLandCruiser

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199 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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BJG1 said:
Would "brought" be better?

The problem with Islam is that it is practiced in an extreme and medieval way in far greater volume than other religions, probably because it comes from less advanced countries and cultures.

We hear this "tiny minority" stuff a lot, and whilst it's true that it's only a tiny minority who actually carry out attacks, that small number come from a huge subset of people who have some pretty abhorrent views. There are moderate Muslims, but I wouldn't describe anyone who took to the streets to complain about that fking cartoon moderate and there were thousands of people taking to the streets all over Europe over that. Similarly, I'd describe anyone who puts their wife in a burkha as having some abhorrent views and that's a hell of a lot of people.

There was a youth panel with 6 Muslims on the BBC website a month or so ago about IS, the opinion on whether an Islamic state should exist was split across the panel but it had support from half of them. I appreciate that isn't a big sample size but there is a systemic problem with the practice of Islam around the world and we have imported in this culture and instead of clamping down on it, we've allowed it to get away with being against our values and in cases like Rotherham, allowed horrendous things to happen and covered them up to protect a culture that shouldn't exist here in the first place.
Very well said, I agree with it entirely.

Bill

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256 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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BJG1 said:
Would "brought" be better?
It's still a massive over-simplification.

BJG1

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213 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Bill said:
It's still a massive over-simplification.
We have imported in cultures from countries like Pakistan and they have brought over some abhorrent beliefs and practices with them. Not everyone, but enough for it to be a serious issue.

dudleybloke

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187 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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And don't forget Salman Rushdie having a fatwa on him for the last 25 years over his book.
The "offensive" part in it was a couple of fairly ambiguous sentences that 99% of those who took to the streets in anger hadn't even read.



Edited by dudleybloke on Thursday 25th September 17:16

Bill

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Thursday 25th September 2014
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BJG1 said:
We have imported in cultures from countries like Pakistan and they have brought over some abhorrent beliefs and practices with them. Not everyone, but enough for it to be a serious issue.
Yes, ish. But that's not what I'm talking about.

dudleybloke

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187 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Vice news in a webchat with foreign Isis jihadis based in Iraq.

Islamic State Member Warns of NYC Attack In VICE …: http://youtu.be/j8TLu514EgU

BJG1

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213 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Bill said:
Yes, ish. But that's not what I'm talking about.
How about you stop being so opaque and aloof and make your sodding point, then?

Bill

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Friday 26th September 2014
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Not all issues involving those pesky Muslims are made or brought by them. See particularly the Balkans and China.

Google [bot]

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Monday 29th September 2014
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Du1point8

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Monday 3rd November 2014
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BlackLabel said:
Sounds like they shot him with a pellet gun.