The Salmond is off

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turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Mermaid said:
Breadvan72 said:
Resignation is appropriate and even, dare I say, principled.
Agree, and he fought a good fight.

45% (for it was about him too) is more than our PM enjoys.
Then again, on a like-for-like basis, if the PM campaigned for secession from the EU then he may well beat 45% by a fair margin.

If only.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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He isn't off.
He is keeping his SMP job and remaining on the gravy train, probably putting the same time in to his constituency as brown has since being rejected. I.e bugger all!

turbobloke

103,942 posts

260 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Catz said:
All politicians lie!

If nothing else Salmond managed to get almost 85% of Scots to go and vote on something.
Possibly, but there's another angle in that the issue of independence would be likely to achieve such a turnout regardless of who the talking heads were.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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Catz said:
All politicians lie!

If nothing else Salmond managed to get almost 85% of Scots to go and vote on something.
Yes. Most of them voted against his wishes.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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REALIST123 said:
Catz said:
All politicians lie!

If nothing else Salmond managed to get almost 85% of Scots to go and vote on something.
Yes. Most of them voted against his wishes.
He did very poorly in his own region. That must smart a bit.

ExV8

3,642 posts

215 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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I wonder if he had been truthful whether more would have said yes.

I don't know or, it could be difficult May have endeared him more to the electorate. The SNP are spent.

mgrays

189 posts

190 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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I am not an SNPer but Salmond has done a good job and actually understands how to make the country tick (excepting his first relationship with trumpton). So sorry to see him go from a "running the country well" point of view. Pity he got all pious on us and tried on the Brave Heart game but understand why he feels he has to jump. Trouble is Plan B is back to the typical lack lustre ex council folk as all the good MP material ends up down South; hence have 4 parliaments plus a "we all meet together" for the UK stuff... so we keep the headcount down.

matchmaker

8,490 posts

200 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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REALIST123 said:
Catz said:
All politicians lie!

If nothing else Salmond managed to get almost 85% of Scots to go and vote on something.
Yes. Most of them voted against his wishes.
"Most"? 55% against, 45% for...


anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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matchmaker said:
"Most"? 55% against, 45% for...
=most.

matchmaker

8,490 posts

200 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
=more

Catz

4,812 posts

211 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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matchmaker said:
REALIST123 said:
Catz said:
All politicians lie!

If nothing else Salmond managed to get almost 85% of Scots to go and vote on something.
Yes. Most of them voted against his wishes.
"Most"? 55% against, 45% for...
It was a close vote!

Compared to what it might have achieved 2 years ago I'd say 45% was a good vote.

Non yes vote but interesting to see how the country voted. A more thought out "yes" campaign not based on nationalism, waving saltires and singing Flower of Scotland, might perhaps have swung it!

petercam

273 posts

273 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Catz said:
It was a close vote!

Compared to what it might have achieved 2 years ago I'd say 45% was a good vote.

Non yes vote but interesting to see how the country voted. A more thought out "yes" campaign not based on nationalism, waving saltires and singing Flower of Scotland, might perhaps have swung it!
Compared to what happened tonight in George Square in Glasgow, I am so glad I voted YES. Is this the vision that the 3 stooges have for Scotland?

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

132 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Salmond lost because he didn't clarify the future financial situation for Scotland. Anyone voting with their head could not vote Yes.

James P

2,956 posts

237 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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anonymous said:
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= more than necessary. How would 55 to 45 in favour of Yes have been claimed by the SNP?

V8RX7

26,856 posts

263 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Jasandjules said:
My goodness that sounds like honourable conduct. More than I expected.
Agreed

V8RX7

26,856 posts

263 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Mermaid said:

45% (for it was about him too) is more than our PM enjoys.
In a multiple vote.

Put him solely against Milliband and I suspect he'd get more.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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matchmaker said:
=more
If you have £55, and I have £45, who has the most money?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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V8 Fettler said:
Salmond lost because he didn't clarify the future financial situation for Scotland. Anyone voting with their head could not vote Yes.
Which begs the question was he really that stupid to try to promote his campaign without addressing a very obvious question or was he really in full knowledge that he'd not likely get the majority yes without it and that his aim was to actually keep within the UK, with all the mutual benefits that brings, but gain more power for Scotland within the union?

FastNReliable

308 posts

179 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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el stovey said:
Most people voted SNP because they got fed up with labour and wouldn't vote Conservative. I doubt he wanted a referendum on independence this year and never really expected to win. He has been much more effective in gaining power and wealth for Scotland as first minister than he ever would as in charge of iScotland. He's done loads for Scotland by gaining increased devolved power and he is actually very popular. I certainly would never vote for him but I think he's been a huge benefit for his country.

He managed to get 45% of the vote for independence with no economic policies whatsoever. He has likely sparked off major constitutional change for Scotland and the entire UK. Then when he didn't win he resigned possibly leading to another referendum sooner than if he'd stayed on.

I doubt we've seen the end of Alex Salmond.
Agreed

gpo746

3,397 posts

130 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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It's the end of an era isn't it
He has been there what 20 years or so. In todays politics that a very long time.