Who came out of Scots Referendum with enhanced credit?

Who came out of Scots Referendum with enhanced credit?

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gpo746

3,397 posts

131 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Gordon Brown
Nicola Sturgeon (I know I know ) but I think she came across as a rounded figure and took away some of the fakery of Mr Salmond.
Sarah Smith: Came across as a total professional in her analysis and input in the coverage head and shoulders above most other pundits involved
BBC Parliament : Apart from NOT having Sarah Smith on it the channel was much better at covering the vote than the main BBC News channel

RYH64E

7,960 posts

245 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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ikarl said:
Vaud said:
Brown.

Don't like his politics, but wish he had shown the same passion and conviction as PM.

Awesome speech and delivered perfectly.
The speech he delivered today was just as good. He seemingly spoke from the heart with no notes or auto-prompt. He cracked a few jokes and sounded like someone I would back!

Massively surprised to say the least. I would vote for him.
I heard his speach this morning and found myself agreeing with a lot of what he said, especially about the effects of globalisation and the loss of manufacturing jobs. My memory isn't so short that I'd vote for him though...

Funk

26,296 posts

210 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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RYH64E said:
ikarl said:
Vaud said:
Brown.

Don't like his politics, but wish he had shown the same passion and conviction as PM.

Awesome speech and delivered perfectly.
The speech he delivered today was just as good. He seemingly spoke from the heart with no notes or auto-prompt. He cracked a few jokes and sounded like someone I would back!

Massively surprised to say the least. I would vote for him.
I heard his speach this morning and found myself agreeing with a lot of what he said, especially about the effects of globalisation and the loss of manufacturing jobs. My memory isn't so short that I'd vote for him though...
I was about to comment that it's worrying that someone would be so 'easily swayed' to vote based on a couple of speeches - how short are memories of the reckless abandon with which Brown plundered pensions, removed tax breaks and spent (our and additional borrowed) money like water in order to attempt to bribe/fool people into thinking things were good?

A couple of well-delivered speeches and people forget the destruction this man and his cronies wrought with "...I'd vote for him..."

Incredible.

deadslow

8,008 posts

224 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Borghetto said:
stevoknevo said:
Alex Salmond; say what you like about him, he was Statesman-like right up there but for the expenses scandal.

Nicola Sturgeon was the standout for me;

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Two liars and you think they were the standouts. The SNP hierarchy were/are a disgrace. Their running of Scots Govt committees is/would not have been out of place in the old Soviet Union. The fact that you and others voted them into a quasi Government just astound's me.
A lot of daft stuff on this thread, but you are the standout clown hehe Keep it coming.

Vaud

50,583 posts

156 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Funk said:
I was about to comment that it's worrying that someone would be so 'easily swayed' to vote based on a couple of speeches - how short are memories of the reckless abandon with which Brown plundered pensions, removed tax breaks and spent (our and additional borrowed) money like water in order to attempt to bribe/fool people into thinking things were good?

A couple of well-delivered speeches and people forget the destruction this man and his cronies wrought with "...I'd vote for him..."

Incredible.
Personally I'd never vote for him, but I admire a well delivered speech, regardless of the politics.

Borghetto

3,274 posts

184 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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deadslow said:
A lot of daft stuff on this thread, but you are the standout clown hehe Keep it coming.
I presume you are a gullible Yes voter and your name reflects your slowness of mind. I make allowances for people who admit their handicaps, so you go on supporting the SNP idiots in Edinburgh; unfortunately the increased benefits they promised you, aren't going to materialise.

deadslow

8,008 posts

224 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Borghetto said:
deadslow said:
A lot of daft stuff on this thread, but you are the standout clown hehe Keep it coming.
I presume you are a gullible Yes voter and your name reflects your slowness of mind. I make allowances for people who admit their handicaps, so you go on supporting the SNP idiots in Edinburgh; unfortunately the increased benefits they promised you, aren't going to materialise.
Chum, you truly are priceless hehe

Borghetto

3,274 posts

184 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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deadslow said:
Chum, you truly are priceless hehe
I'm not your chum and I'm glad my comments amuse you, as I don't imagine you've had much to laugh about lately; unless losing is your bag.

deadslow

8,008 posts

224 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Borghetto said:
deadslow said:
Chum, you truly are priceless hehe
I'm not your chum and I'm glad my comments amuse you, as I don't imagine you've had much to laugh about lately; unless losing is your bag.
Not much to larf about, pal, but plenty to larf at. Keep it coming hehe

Thorodin

2,459 posts

134 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Salmond is a lying toad. That said, that's why he is a politician. Unsuccessful or otherwise. What is really vexing is that you have to admit he's done more for England (West Lothian) than any other politician and for that has be applauded. Only a bit though.

Borghetto

3,274 posts

184 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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deadslow said:
Not much to larf about, pal, but plenty to larf at. Keep it coming hehe
I'm not your pal either mush and I suggest if you're short of a larf, take a peek at yourself in the mirror.

deadslow

8,008 posts

224 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Borghetto said:
deadslow said:
Not much to larf about, pal, but plenty to larf at. Keep it coming hehe
I'm not your pal either mush and I suggest if you're short of a larf, take a peek at yourself in the mirror.
Superb! Friend, you are just about unrivalled in your use of unnecessary unpleasantness. Keep it coming hehehehehehe

Vaud

50,583 posts

156 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Do you two want to get a room, or just bicker via PM?

Ta.

mike13

716 posts

183 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Funk said:
I was about to comment that it's worrying that someone would be so 'easily swayed' to vote based on a couple of speeches - how short are memories of the reckless abandon with which Brown plundered pensions, removed tax breaks and spent (our and additional borrowed) money like water in order to attempt to bribe/fool people into thinking things were good?

A couple of well-delivered speeches and people forget the destruction this man and his cronies wrought with "...I'd vote for him..."

Incredible.
The most sensible reply on this thread, he's a complete clown who nearly finished this country off

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Whoever said the queen was right.

Nobody else.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Well as we are still part of the UK, I have to say who came out best? UKIP.

just watch what happens in Scotland now.




s2art

18,937 posts

254 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Mojocvh said:
Well as we are still part of the UK, I have to say who came out best? UKIP.

just watch what happens in Scotland now.
UKIP needs to learn the lessons of the Scottish referendum. They need a much more detailed exit plan. Maybe its already there in embryo, from that competition winner, but more will be needed.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Mojocvh said:
Well as we are still part of the UK, I have to say who came out best? UKIP.

just watch what happens in Scotland now.
I'm not generally a fan of UKIP but Nigel Farage's interviews on R4 regarding the referendum have generally been spot on.

0a

23,901 posts

195 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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s2art said:
Mojocvh said:
Well as we are still part of the UK, I have to say who came out best? UKIP.

just watch what happens in Scotland now.
UKIP needs to learn the lessons of the Scottish referendum. They need a much more detailed exit plan. Maybe its already there in embryo, from that competition winner, but more will be needed.
I would agree with this. They need to explain in some detail what happens (and for it to be creditable).

brenflys777

2,678 posts

178 months

Saturday 20th September 2014
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Salmond and Farage IMO.

Salmond went into a yes/no referendum and ended up with a yes/partially yes referendum. The waters have been muddied enough that I don't think it was a complete failure for him, but knowing when to exit gracefully also gives him gravitas out of a negative result.

Farage has been consistent and forthright, he highlighted the danger of the three party fudge and the unfairness to the English.