Disruptions in London today - climate march

Disruptions in London today - climate march

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anonymous-user

53 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Emma was on Andrew Marr this morning - "the science has been proven blah blah".

I nearly ruined a perfectly good Panasonic TV.

BoRED S2upid

19,641 posts

239 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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It's a lovely day here I've been to the sea with the little one and now sat enjoying the sun in the garden. Loving this climate long may it continue!

Blib

43,789 posts

196 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Speaking purely as a Londoner. I wish that every Tom, Dick or Harriet would just stop it with their interminable marches. Each and every weekend, my beautiful city is subjected to hordes of the unwashed demonstrating about something or other. It really is annoying and nothing is ever achieved.

In future, I'd prefer it if you'd all march around your local area and maybe email in the results.

Thanking you.

wc98

10,334 posts

139 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Roverload said:
What's wrong with campaigning to make life cleaner? It's our responsibility to not destroy this place, regardless of weather you believe in climate change of not, reducing emissions is only ever going to be a good thing!
Because this isn't about making life cleaner. It's narrowly focused on a mistaken belief about global warming that has become a lie that cannot be denied lest it derail the gravy juggernaut. The money and effort that has been wasted could have actually made a REAL environmental difference. Real environmental problems are being ignored because of this claptrap.
quite,like where the fk will we find the landfill space to dump the wind turbines that are a waste of space.

The reporter tells viewers that some years saw as little as 80% of the expected wind. The reporter adds: “That’s a disaster, experts tells us. A privately run company would certainly have gone bankrupt.”

In reality, however, what we are actually seeing is the unfolding of one of history’s greatest industrial debacles, all driven by a fraudulent climate science and a deceptive industry. Slowly realizing they’ve been bamboozled, the German media, government and the numerous green energy promoters are scrambling to save face.

Without the subsidy nipple, the orders disappear and green energy companies die off. At the 12:20 mark the reporter says that the Juwi managing director Matthias Willenbacher blames the government for the misery, just before he is shown cruising in his ultra-high-priced sports car. - See more at: http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.U2tuBdtd.dpuf

wc98

10,334 posts

139 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Blib said:
Speaking purely as a Londoner. I wish that every Tom, Dick or Harriet would just stop it with their interminable marches. Each and every weekend, my beautiful city is subjected to hordes of the unwashed demonstrating about something or other. It really is annoying and nothing is ever achieved.

In future, I'd prefer it if you'd all march around your local area and maybe email in the results.

Thanking you.
about time boris got his water cannon out,this is the perfect opportunity for a test run.

Laurel Green

30,770 posts

231 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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wc98 said:
about time boris got his water cannon out,this is the perfect opportunity for a test run.
With added soap to give them a new start in life.

DJRC

23,563 posts

235 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Not really massive disruption. I arrived in Lindon at 15.20. Walked to Euston sq and saw a bloke with a placard about green stuff. Ignore him, caught the tube, arrived at Paddington by 15.45. Caught the 15.55 Xpress to Heathrow.

UPDATE:
Oh no!!! Delay!!!!!
A red signal!!! We are due to be delayed by...5mins.

fking climate biased signal controllers!

NiceCupOfTea

25,280 posts

250 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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I would have gone* but I'm afraid I was busy converting fossil fuels into (mostly) forward motion and noise.

* actually a lie

BillPeart

139 posts

115 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Why do tree huggers always have so many kids?
No TV?

NDA

21,479 posts

224 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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BillPeart said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Why do tree huggers always have so many kids?
No TV?
The only way to keep warm?

BillPeart

139 posts

115 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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NDA said:
BillPeart said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Why do tree huggers always have so many kids?
No TV?
The only way to keep warm?
I hear some of them suggest they burn the spare children to avoid using fossil fuels for fuel and to avoid the additional co2 the poor unwanted offspring would output.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

169 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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The BBC has 'mistakenly' allowed comments on this story, they don't like dissent on the climate con, so usually block comments.

Too many realist comments, I suspect they will be culled soon, that is the usual occurrence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2930...

Matt Sketch

162 posts

133 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Had to laugh at a friend's, who attended todays proceedings, status updates on facebook.



The Peoples Climate March London. Incredible turn out, peaceful, sunshine. I hope we made a difference



I haven't the heart to point out the irony

br d

8,388 posts

225 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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I had no idea this was on and drove through it at Aldwych, was stuck for about half an hour and the car got a few dirty looks from the greenists.
One girl was carrying a placard with "LONDON - 100% GREEN ENERGY!" written on it, I burst out laughing and got stared at. I wondered if she had "UNICORN FOR PRIME MINISTER!" on the back.

Crafty_

13,248 posts

199 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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audidoody

8,595 posts

255 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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turbobloke said:
A minute or two of checking and the hot air will emanate from the Bishop of London (just perfect, with agw being one of the newest religions) and that bastion of objective scientific wisdom aka Vivienne Westwood. Emma will be there, saving the planet, maybe Leo was busy.
Vivienne Westwood? Isn't she the England-hating expert on Scottish devolution as well as how to make clothes out of safety pins?

audidoody

8,595 posts

255 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Roverload said:
What's wrong with campaigning to make life cleaner? It's our responsibility to not destroy this place, regardless of weather you believe in climate change of not, reducing emissions is only ever going to be a good thing!
DO you REALLY think "we" have the power to upset Nature? Have you considered for a moment the amount of noxious gases thrown into the atmosphere by natural events such as the eruption of Mt St Helens, Krakatoa and Vesuvias. Hey .. guess what? We're all still here.

Here's the best riposte to the climate change evangelists I have ever read. Its from the late George Carlin. IMHO no-one has said it better.

“We’re so self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. Save the planet, we don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. I’m tired of this st. I’m tired of f-ing Earth Day. I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is that there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a st about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that some day in the future they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are!

We’re going away. Pack your st, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam … The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.

The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed. And if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice toward plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, “Why are we here?”

Plastic… asshole.”


Roverload

850 posts

135 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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audidoody said:
Roverload said:
What's wrong with campaigning to make life cleaner? It's our responsibility to not destroy this place, regardless of weather you believe in climate change of not, reducing emissions is only ever going to be a good thing!
DO you REALLY think "we" have the power to upset Nature? Have you considered for a moment the amount of noxious gases thrown into the atmosphere by natural events such as the eruption of Mt St Helens, Krakatoa and Vesuvias. Hey .. guess what? We're all still here.

Here's the best riposte to the climate change evangelists I have ever read. Its from the late George Carlin. IMHO no-one has said it better.

“We’re so self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. Save the planet, we don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. I’m tired of this st. I’m tired of f-ing Earth Day. I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is that there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a st about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that some day in the future they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.

The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are!

We’re going away. Pack your st, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam … The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.

The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed. And if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice toward plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, “Why are we here?”

Plastic… asshole.”
Yes I do think we have an effect on the planet, and if we want to continue living on it we need to sort it out, like plastic for example, the sea is so polluted it's affecting the fish stocks of some of the poorest countries in the world, all the plastic in the sea breaks down to its original form of tiny balls and silicone, trees are the most important thing on dry land, not us, personally I find the human race to be a pretty vile species and in no way "clever". A clever species wouldn't have allowed it to get this bad in the first places, I don't see the walrus population or for that matter penguins in the situation we are in, clearly they know something we don't!

For every article you can show me that casts doubt on climate change being a man made issue, I will show you 10 that prove otherwise. I feel a deep connection to nature, laugh all you want because I don't give a fk, and I feel that this planet would be a lot better off without us, and you are right, the planet will be here long after the human cancer has been eliminated!

Peace.

Blib

43,789 posts

196 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Roverload said:
Yes I do think we have an effect on the planet, and if we want to continue living on it we need to sort it out, like plastic for example, the sea is so polluted it's affecting the fish stocks of some of the poorest countries in the world, all the plastic in the sea breaks down to its original form of tiny balls and silicone, trees are the most important thing on dry land, not us, personally I find the human race to be a pretty vile species and in no way "clever". A clever species wouldn't have allowed it to get this bad in the first places, I don't see the walrus population or for that matter penguins in the situation we are in, clearly they know something we don't!

For every article you can show me that casts doubt on climate change being a man made issue, I will show you 10 that prove otherwise. I feel a deep connection to nature, laugh all you want because I don't give a fk, and I feel that this planet would be a lot better off without us, and you are right, the planet will be here long after the human cancer has been eliminated!

Peace.
Just post ONE that proves otherwise. One. I dare you.

With these feet

5,728 posts

214 months

Sunday 21st September 2014
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Roverload, show us the 10+ articles that you say prove us "deniers" wrong? Such article do not exist do they? For if they did the science would indeed be settled and it no longer be just a hypothesis. Along with the fact most of the authors will have had mates peer review their papers - another issue brought up in another thread.

You make us sound like we burn kittens to keep warm, the majority of us recycle like good children and some even have cars that are quite efficient! Far from what the tree hugging yoghurt knitting loons lead you to believe.