Fake phone masts - spying

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AA999

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5,180 posts

217 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Fake phone masts popping up in america:

http://news.sky.com/story/1329375/mysterious-fake-...

Are they doing this over here also?


I know they are doing something to blend them in :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-139...


But its said the fake ones are for spying, in as much as who ever can "log on" to the masts can basically listen to conversations and access your phone to their hearts content.

Not a great step for personal privacy is it?

Dog Star

16,127 posts

168 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Disguising them as trees makes good sense.

And on a completely unrelated side-note - from the DM "Sidebar of Shame" - Piece Brosnan's missus - boing boing boing! That looks like hours and hours of bouncy fun!

soad

32,882 posts

176 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Dog Star said:
And on a completely unrelated side-note - from the DM "Sidebar of Shame" - Piece Brosnan's missus - boing boing boing! That looks like hours and hours of bouncy fun!
Rather you than me. I'd take a rain check.

DrDoofenshmirtz

15,219 posts

200 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Disguising a Cell as a tree, and setting up a 'fake' Cell are two very different things.

surveyor

17,809 posts

184 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Dog Star said:
Disguising them as trees makes good sense.

And on a completely unrelated side-note - from the DM "Sidebar of Shame" - Piece Brosnan's missus - boing boing boing! That looks like hours and hours of bouncy fun!
Bloody does not. I have to find these things. Finding even a badly disguised 'tree mast' can be a ball ache....

P-Jay

10,563 posts

191 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Why would making them less obvious lead anyone to think they may be used for spying?

I don't see the connection, "OMG they're using phone masts to listen to my calls!!!111!!" No, they're using phone masts to allow your phone make calls, if 'they' wanted to listen into your calls via phone masts, they'd just use the existing ones.

I would imagine they're just trying to make them less of an eye sore.

trashbat

6,006 posts

153 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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I don't quite get this.

Anyone with the kit can set up a base station. You can do it at home with a femtocell.

It's not a stretch of the imagination to configure it such that it appears to be something that it isn't, e.g. Vodafone.

Phones will communicate with that, no issues. Therefore you could in theory use it to either locate/track people or deny them phone service. AFAIK this is performed by national agencies already - the UK are said to use aircraft for it.

However it'd be a gigantic effort to make it masquerade as the normal working phone network; i.e. be able to properly sign on to it and place calls as normal, unless you've hacked into and integrated it into the original core network. For instance you don't even have the phone number. That's to say nothing of incoming calls, SMS etc.

It might be possible but it would be state-grade stuff, and surely there are plenty of better vectors for that.

Then again, maybe if you're on O2, some hacker might give you a better service.


AA999

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5,180 posts

217 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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My OP seems to be creating a bit of confusion...
There are fake phone masts in the USA which are being used to intrude on privacy; to distinguish between one type of 'fake' and another type of 'fake' I posted another link to show that some 'fake' masts are just being blended in to the surrounds.

But the main question was aimed at the spy-fake masts that by all accounts have the potential to be used by anyone with the right tech to snoop on privacy.