Milliband Speech
Discussion
Clip of him explaining the speech on BBC this morning..
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29339584
How can anyone bring themselves to vote for this man it must be some cruel social experiment they can't be serious can they?
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29339584
How can anyone bring themselves to vote for this man it must be some cruel social experiment they can't be serious can they?
jogon said:
Clip of him explaining the speech on BBC this morning..
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29339584
How can anyone bring themselves to vote for this man it must be some cruel social experiment they can't be serious can they?
Superb question from Minchin there, 'How high then, on your list of priorities, is the deficit - if you forgot it?'http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29339584
How can anyone bring themselves to vote for this man it must be some cruel social experiment they can't be serious can they?
Kapow !! Labour's economic intentions revealed in just 3 seconds! MORE DEBT !
Cobnapint said:
Superb question from Minchin there, 'How high then, on your list of priorities, is the deficit - if you forgot it?'
Kapow !! Labour's economic intentions revealed in just 3 seconds! MORE DEBT !
Pretty revealing poll carried out last week.Kapow !! Labour's economic intentions revealed in just 3 seconds! MORE DEBT !
4% of Labour candidates believe the last government spent too much.
85% believe Gordon's spending was "about right"
89% believe unrestricted immigration is a good thing
Cobnapint said:
jogon said:
Clip of him explaining the speech on BBC this morning..
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29339584
How can anyone bring themselves to vote for this man it must be some cruel social experiment they can't be serious can they?
Superb question from Minchin there, 'How high then, on your list of priorities, is the deficit - if you forgot it?'http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29339584
How can anyone bring themselves to vote for this man it must be some cruel social experiment they can't be serious can they?
Kapow !! Labour's economic intentions revealed in just 3 seconds! MORE DEBT !
Which roughly translates as 'we won't admit it in the run up to a general election, but we're going to do it though if you elect us'.
Art0ir said:
Pretty revealing poll carried out last week.
89% believe unrestricted immigration is a good thing
I find this impossible to believe.89% believe unrestricted immigration is a good thing
Nobody can be so stupid as to believe unrestricted anything is a good thing…?
Especially given that it's Labour heartlands that are over-run by "job stealing immigrants".
This country is odd.
Sir Humphrey said:
garyhun said:
Didn't labour do that for 13 years?
They had a surplus in more years than the Tories ever managed under Thatcher and Major.
If the Man In The Street has more than a single brain cell to rub together, Labour has just lost the next election. A weak speech full of Socialist rhetoric not offering one single 'do'able' policy.
Give him 10 years in power?? He'll only need 10 minutes to find he's as much out of his depth as someone who has fallen overboard on a booze cruise.
NHS .. blah. ...blah paid for from a tax on people who own an asset paid for out of taxed income and levied at a level much higher than they bought the asset for and which will probably raise enough to run the NHS for two days a year.
A clamp-down on tax avoidance. Yet tax "avoidance" is entirely legal.
A tax on tobacco companies who “make soaring profits on the back of ill health”. Eh? They already pay a tax on those soaring profits. It's called corporation tax. Apart from the breathtaking hypocrisy of successive Governments earning soaring tax revenue on the back of ill health.
He's like the cowboy builder who offers to fix the extension on your house that his brother bodged and demands to be paid by your neighbour.
Give him 10 years in power?? He'll only need 10 minutes to find he's as much out of his depth as someone who has fallen overboard on a booze cruise.
NHS .. blah. ...blah paid for from a tax on people who own an asset paid for out of taxed income and levied at a level much higher than they bought the asset for and which will probably raise enough to run the NHS for two days a year.
A clamp-down on tax avoidance. Yet tax "avoidance" is entirely legal.
A tax on tobacco companies who “make soaring profits on the back of ill health”. Eh? They already pay a tax on those soaring profits. It's called corporation tax. Apart from the breathtaking hypocrisy of successive Governments earning soaring tax revenue on the back of ill health.
He's like the cowboy builder who offers to fix the extension on your house that his brother bodged and demands to be paid by your neighbour.
Edited by audidoody on Wednesday 24th September 11:26
I thought it was embarrassing almost beyond belief. It was, as many people have already compared it to, the speech of a 16 year old at a debating society at a minor public school.
Lots of stuff he either didn't mention that have already been mentioned but I would like to zoom on increasing the fag tax. How can he tax the cigarette companies any more when their profits are falling through the floor because... lets see now..... err.. hardly anyone smokes anymore? (One of the reasons this being the tax-payer funded anti-smoking programmes introduced by the last Labour governments.)
Simple rule: If it looks like a muppet and speaks like a muppet, chances are its probably a muppet.
Oh and did anyone else notice that ambitious leftie ex-GMTV presenter (Gloria De Piero?) when the camera panned round when he finished? She was jumping up and down with a look on her face like he was the one messiah. Either that or love egg had just gone off. Do not trust her one little bit.
Lots of stuff he either didn't mention that have already been mentioned but I would like to zoom on increasing the fag tax. How can he tax the cigarette companies any more when their profits are falling through the floor because... lets see now..... err.. hardly anyone smokes anymore? (One of the reasons this being the tax-payer funded anti-smoking programmes introduced by the last Labour governments.)
Simple rule: If it looks like a muppet and speaks like a muppet, chances are its probably a muppet.
Oh and did anyone else notice that ambitious leftie ex-GMTV presenter (Gloria De Piero?) when the camera panned round when he finished? She was jumping up and down with a look on her face like he was the one messiah. Either that or love egg had just gone off. Do not trust her one little bit.
Oh dear, the FT even go as far as calling him charismatic!
In reality he had all the attraction of a curry fart...
Funny when you first gear it but slightly shocking when it sinks in, given the problems he helped create he then forgets the deficit and goes on to propose taxing most of London & SE to make us even more uncompetitive and put a further strain on living costs...
In reality he had all the attraction of a curry fart...
Funny when you first gear it but slightly shocking when it sinks in, given the problems he helped create he then forgets the deficit and goes on to propose taxing most of London & SE to make us even more uncompetitive and put a further strain on living costs...
His speech was indeed a joke, I've seen more get up and go in Shady Pines Retirement home.
And that's before we get on to the "missing" parts of his speech which for most people are up there as the most important issues of the day.
He was on BBC Breakfast this morning explaining that he does his speeches from memory which is all well and good,impressive maybe, but only if it works......
And the chap on Radio 4 who got a grilling on how to pay for the NHS, no answers, no ideas, like a rabbit in the headlights.
Oh dear, it's not looking good.
And "Frank Spencer wallpapering a bedroom"!!! Very good!
And that's before we get on to the "missing" parts of his speech which for most people are up there as the most important issues of the day.
He was on BBC Breakfast this morning explaining that he does his speeches from memory which is all well and good,impressive maybe, but only if it works......
And the chap on Radio 4 who got a grilling on how to pay for the NHS, no answers, no ideas, like a rabbit in the headlights.
Oh dear, it's not looking good.
And "Frank Spencer wallpapering a bedroom"!!! Very good!
This is the problem when you get politicians who are not grounded in principle and practice - with real values and knowledge - they will always screw up any free-form publicity. It's also indicative of how influential spin-doctors are in politics these days and that, in reality, you cannot really elect an MP, but rather you simply get to elect a puppet to deliver the policies of the puppetmasters.
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