Hong kong protests - Huge
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Not-The-Messiah said:
robm3 said:
Via State Media (so that's all of it there then) China is reporting that pro-government supporters, or 'patriotic supporters' as the government calls them, were harassed and the election had 'meddling Western influence'.
So nothing to do with people rebelling against China's flawed totalitarian state principals at all!
Now doesn't that sound familiar, I wonder were we've heard that sort of line before? So nothing to do with people rebelling against China's flawed totalitarian state principals at all!
Perhaps from another load of power hunger control freak toss pots.
Okay so it looks like China has just gone and made some new laws anyway: https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/china-passes-ne...
And pro-democracy groups are disbanding:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-532311...
Will be interesting to see what capital flight comes out of this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-532311...
Will be interesting to see what capital flight comes out of this.
REALIST123 said:
Unknown_User said:
It is great that the UK is offering passports, hopefully that offer will extend further.
To what?Aditionally, maybe Boris is actually thinking of making a similar offer to the Palestinians if Israel press ahead with annexation?
Unknown_User said:
To all of the citizens in HK that would like to leave. The offer is currently only open to British National Overseas Passport holders in Hong Kong. With the economic outlook in the UK looking precarious at best, an influx of highly motivated, hard working immigrants might just be just what the UK needs to kickstart our economy.
Aditionally, maybe Boris is actually thinking of making a similar offer to the Palestinians if Israel press ahead with annexation?
This is what everyone was saying in the 80s and 90s when Hongers Kongers weren’t given right of abode by successive U.K. governments. Aditionally, maybe Boris is actually thinking of making a similar offer to the Palestinians if Israel press ahead with annexation?
The U.K. right wing press was banging on about millions of Chinese arriving and anyone who lived in HK was saying actually it will be the best thing that ever happened if they did arrive.
El stovey said:
This is what everyone was saying in the 80s and 90s when Hongers Kongers weren’t given right of abode by successive U.K. governments.
The U.K. right wing press was banging on about millions of Chinese arriving and anyone who lived in HK was saying actually it will be the best thing that ever happened if they did arrive.
Please show me all this hate .....The U.K. right wing press was banging on about millions of Chinese arriving and anyone who lived in HK was saying actually it will be the best thing that ever happened if they did arrive.
Dont like rolls said:
El stovey said:
This is what everyone was saying in the 80s and 90s when Hongers Kongers weren’t given right of abode by successive U.K. governments.
The U.K. right wing press was banging on about millions of Chinese arriving and anyone who lived in HK was saying actually it will be the best thing that ever happened if they did arrive.
Please show me all this hate .....The U.K. right wing press was banging on about millions of Chinese arriving and anyone who lived in HK was saying actually it will be the best thing that ever happened if they did arrive.
Are you still upset I laughed when you called out that poster about your second hand HK knowledge and it turned out he was from there and knew much more than you.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 2nd July 09:06
El stovey said:
What hate? You want me to dig out UK press articles about right of abode from the 80s and 90s?
Are you still upset I laughed when you called out that poster about your second hand HK knowledge and it turned out he was from there and knew much more than you.
What are you on, what drug, what drink (bit early chum)Are you still upset I laughed when you called out that poster about your second hand HK knowledge and it turned out he was from there and knew much more than you.
Edited by El stovey on Thursday 2nd July 09:06
You made a claim, back it up.
Unknown_User said:
REALIST123 said:
Unknown_User said:
It is great that the UK is offering passports, hopefully that offer will extend further.
To what?Aditionally, maybe Boris is actually thinking of making a similar offer to the Palestinians if Israel press ahead with annexation?
I see that turning out really well.
Passport holders fine.
The rest should follow the same rules as everyone else.
Assuming she’s telling the truth here (surely she has a Chinese bank account?) this isn’t the type of thing you’d want to be made public.
I’m hope she has good security.
article said:
HONG KONG (Reuters) - Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam says she has to pile up cash at home as she has been unable to open a bank account in the global financial centre since Washington sanctioned her shortly after Beijing imposed a national security law on the city.
article said:
“I’m using cash for all the things,” she said. “I have piles of cash at home, the government is paying me cash for my salary because I don’t have a bank account.”
article said:
Lam is paid about HK$5.21 million ($672,232) a year, according to local media reports, making her among the highest paid public officials in the world.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-politics-carrielam/hks-top-leader-piles-up-cash-at-home-after-u-s-sanctions-idUSKBN2890EQI’m hope she has good security.
Edited by BlackLabel on Monday 30th November 12:14
On the night of the handover in 1997 I was partying at the Mandarin Oriental. We looked down on Prince Charles's bald patch. The atmosphere was nervous. There were reports of People's Army units assembled on the northern border. Madeline Albright had a USAF jet waiting at the airport, to bug out fast if need be. After midnight, democracy leader Martin Lee addressed pro-democracy Hong Kongers from the balcony of the Legislative Council building. Inside the building, Beijing stooges, appointed to the seats from which Lee and his democratically elected colleagues had just been removed, passed new public order legislation. But the night passed peacefully, and after sundown in the British Empire we woke up in the PRC.
About six years later, I and two more senior colleagues gave some advice to the SAR Government about proposed new laws on sedition. The proposals were mainly shelved because of human rights concerns. Things bubbled up again periodically thereafter, with the PRC pushing for the SAR Gov to have more and more state powers, but this time around the PRC looks serious about binning the Treaty.
My commercial contacts in HK say that they expect Capitalism to continue little changed after what is left of HK democracy is suppressed. They think it unlikely that businesses and Capital will flee to Singapore (which is another form of tyranny anyway) or Taiwan.
About six years later, I and two more senior colleagues gave some advice to the SAR Government about proposed new laws on sedition. The proposals were mainly shelved because of human rights concerns. Things bubbled up again periodically thereafter, with the PRC pushing for the SAR Gov to have more and more state powers, but this time around the PRC looks serious about binning the Treaty.
My commercial contacts in HK say that they expect Capitalism to continue little changed after what is left of HK democracy is suppressed. They think it unlikely that businesses and Capital will flee to Singapore (which is another form of tyranny anyway) or Taiwan.
rodericb said:
Yeah, I read that on the weekend and wondered why she "has" to be paid in cash. Can she not open an account with a Chinese bank?
The sanctions prevent any bank with any trade with outside China servicing the sanctioned individuals. The story will be mostly bulls
t, she will be able to continue her wealth grab until she retires to her life of luxury in mainland China. Breadvan72 said:
On the night of the handover in 1997 I was partying at the Mandarin Oriental. We looked down on Prince Charles's bald patch. The atmosphere was nervous. There were reports of People's Army units assembled on the northern border. Madeline Albright had a USAF jet waiting at the airport, to bug out fast if need be. After midnight, democracy leader Martin Lee addressed pro-democracy Hong Kongers from the balcony of the Legislative Council building. Inside the building, Beijing stooges, appointed to the seats from which Lee and his democratically elected colleagues had just been removed, passed new public order legislation. But the night passed peacefully, and after sundown in the British Empire we woke up in the PRC.
About six years later, I and two more senior colleagues gave some advice to the SAR Government about proposed new laws on sedition. The proposals were mainly shelved because of human rights concerns. Things bubbled up again periodically thereafter, with the PRC pushing for the SAR Gov to have more and more state powers, but this time around the PRC looks serious about binning the Treaty.
My commercial contacts in HK say that they expect Capitalism to continue little changed after what is left of HK democracy is suppressed. They think it unlikely that businesses and Capital will flee to Singapore (which is another form of tyranny anyway) or Taiwan.
The loss of special status wilk take time to show on the ground. As far as the USA is concerned, HK is now just another city in mainland China.About six years later, I and two more senior colleagues gave some advice to the SAR Government about proposed new laws on sedition. The proposals were mainly shelved because of human rights concerns. Things bubbled up again periodically thereafter, with the PRC pushing for the SAR Gov to have more and more state powers, but this time around the PRC looks serious about binning the Treaty.
My commercial contacts in HK say that they expect Capitalism to continue little changed after what is left of HK democracy is suppressed. They think it unlikely that businesses and Capital will flee to Singapore (which is another form of tyranny anyway) or Taiwan.
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